the true story of Jehoahaz and Jehoash ?

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from 850-800 BC, the kings of Israel and Judah always had the same names at the same times.

the Royal genealogies were redacted, turning single kings of united Israel and Judah into doppelganger twins.

in order to cover up the fact that the kings on the throne of Judah were no longer direct male descendants of David and Solomon, but male descendants of Omri and Ahab (through marriage of Jehoram son of Ahab to Athaliah daughter of Jehoshaphat)

Elijah and Elisha, through Jehu, imposed a harem on the male lineage of Ahab, husband of Jezebel. Jehu executed Jezebel, her son Jehoram, mortally wounded her grandson Ahaziah son of Jehoram (who lingered for one year), and executed all the other sons of Ahab, as well as the brothers of Ahaziah.

because he outlived his father one year, Ahaziah is listed as king of Judah one year, and successor king of Israel after Jehu's coup.

One son of Ahaziah = Jehoahaz survived hidden in the temple by the priest Jehoida and his royal wife Jehosheba, sister of Ahaziah & daughter of Jehoram. Queen mother Athaliah reigned six years until the threat of Jehu had waned, and her surviving son Jehoash ruled all of Israel.

united Israel briefly resurged under Jehoash (2 Kings 13:22-25), who was initially loyal to both priest Jehoida and prophet Elisha

when he was assassinated, the kingdom was divided once again between Jeroboam II in Israel and Amaziah in Judah.

from Ahaziah = Jehoahaz onwards, all the kings of Judah were direct male descendants of Omri and Ahab.

no effect on the genealogy of Jesus' earthly foster father Joseph.
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Tel Dan Stele - Wikipedia

Hazael of Damascus boasted, apparently taking credit for the actual deeds of Jehu:

6. ...I slew [seve]nty kin[gs], who harnessed th[ousands of cha-]
7. riots and thousands of horsemen (or: horses). [I killed Jeho]ram son [of Ahab]
8. king of Israel, and killed [Ahaz]iahu son of [Jehoram kin-]

9. g of the House of David, and I set [their towns into ruins and turned ]
10. their land into [desolation ]
11. other [... and Jehu ru-]
12. led
over Is[rael and I laid]
13. siege upon [ ][12]
 
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https://www.bible-history.com/black-obelisk/what-is-the-black-obelisk.html

The second register from the top includes the earliest surviving picture of an Israelite: the Biblical Jehu, king of Israel, brought or sent his tribute in around 841 BC. Ahab, son of Omri, king of Israel, had lost his life in battle a few years previously, fighting against the king of Damascus at Ramoth-Gilead (I Kings xxii. 29-36). His second son (Joram) was succeeded by Jehu, a usurper, who broke the alliances with Phoenicia and Judah, and submitted to Assyria. The caption above the scene, written in Assyrian cuneiform, can be translated:

"The tribute of Jehu, son of Omri: I received from him silver, gold, a golden bowl, a golden vase with pointed bottom, golden tumblers, golden buckets, tin, a staff for a king [and] spears."
 
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Jehu's coup in 841 BC was not enough to stop Hazael of Damascus. Jehu lost all of Israel beyond the Jordan (2 Kings 12 or so)

so he submitted to the Assyrians who then focused on Damascus, relieving the pressure on Israel. Israel was able to return to their tents

then when he came of age, Jehoash was able to regain ground against a weakened Damascus
 
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https://www.bible-history.com/black-obelisk/shalmaneser-assyria.html

Shalmaneser III also mentions Jehu on another fragment from his annals:

"In the 18th year of my reign [841 BC] I crossed the Euphrates for the sixteenth time. Hazael of Damascus trusted in the power of his forces, marshalled his troops in full strength. He made Senir (Mt. Hermon), the summit of the mountain opposite Lebanon, his stronghold. With him I fought, and defeated him. Six thousand of his soldiers I brought down with weapons; 1121 of his chariots, 470 of his horses, together with his camp, I took from him. To save his life he fled; I pursued him; in Damascus, his royal city, I shut him up. His plantations I destroyed. As far as the mountains of Hauran I marched. Towns without number I laid waste, razed, and burnt with fire. There innumerable spoil I carried away. As far as to the mountains of Baal-rasi situated close to the sea (the head land at Dog River), I marched. My royal image I set up in that place. At that time I received the tribute of the Tyrians and Sidonians, and of Jehu the son of Omri." - Shalmaneser III
 
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note that Jehu acted in concert with Sidon and Tyre the home of Jezebel

Who Were the Phoenicians?

As Professor Ephraim Stern notes in the BAR article “Phoenicia and Its Special Relationship with Israel,” the Phoenicians were the nearest people to the ancient Israelites in every respect:

“They spoke the same language and wrote in the same script. Even their religion was similar, at least during the First Temple period. The Phoenicians and the Israelites built Jerusalem together, as well as several other cities, and they went on joint trading expeditions. By marriage, Phoenician royal houses and those of Israel and Judea were related.”

In fact, writes Stern, unlike all of Israel’s other neighbors, Phoenicia was never engaged in a war with Israel. It was a special relationship, indeed.


...
Most notably, the Phoenicians, descendants of the ancient Canaanites, left behind signs of their rich material culture, which included a distinctive form of architecture that heavily influenced that of their neighbors. Professor Stern describes this style in depth, and adds that all the peoples of Palestine and eastern Jordan imitated it until the Assyrians arrived to smash the cities and scatter the people of that region.

What’s more, the Phoenicians were active seafarers, traders, and skilled artisans who created objects of great value that were sent to cities all around the eastern Mediterranean.

The Phoenicians also thrived in their colonies around the Mediterranean—in Cyprus, Sicily, Sardinia, Malta, southern Spain, and northern Africa.
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Erik,

You have to walk me through this a little more, because from what I am reading the line did not change at all. I quote:

"In the fifth year of Joram the son of Ahab, king of Israel, when Jehoshaphat was king of Judah, Johoram the son of Jehoshaphat, kingdom of Judah, began to reign." - 2 Kings 8:16

Jehoshaphat ---> Johoram

"In the twelfth year of Joram the son of Ahab, the king of Israel, Ahaziah the son of Jehoram, king of Judah, began to reign." - 2 Kings 8:25

Johoram ---> Ahaziah

"But Jehosheba, the daughter of King Joram, sister of Ahaziah, took Joash the son of Ahaziah and stole him away from among the king's sons...Johoash (aka Joash) was seven years old when he began to reign." - 2 Kings 11:2, 21

Ahaziah ---> Joash

Where is the passages that suggest he was a descendant of Omri? The confusing names that the kings shared I think led you down the wrong path.
 
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What do you know about the Biblical Jezebel? Maybe you’ve heard the 1951 Frankie Laine song “Jezebel” or have seen Bette Davis’s 1938 Oscar-winning performance in the movie Jezebel. While the movies and music have attempted to portray Jezebel, or any comparison to her, as villainous—wicked and even lewd—what is the real story about Jezebel?
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Erik,

You have to walk me through this a little more, because from what I am reading the line did not change at all. I quote:

"In the fifth year of Joram the son of Ahab, king of Israel, when Jehoshaphat was king of Judah, Johoram the son of Jehoshaphat, kingdom of Judah, began to reign." - 2 Kings 8:16

Jehoshaphat ---> Johoram

"In the twelfth year of Joram the son of Ahab, the king of Israel, Ahaziah the son of Jehoram, king of Judah, began to reign." - 2 Kings 8:25

Johoram ---> Ahaziah

"But Jehosheba, the daughter of King Joram, sister of Ahaziah, took Joash the son of Ahaziah and stole him away from among the king's sons...Johoash (aka Joash) was seven years old when he began to reign." - 2 Kings 11:2, 21

Ahaziah ---> Joash

Where is the passages that suggest he was a descendant of Omri? The confusing names that the kings shared I think led you down the wrong path.
well the identical names make me think that there was only one Joram Jehoram, only one Ahaziah Jehoahaz, only one Jehoash

so I'm trying to find a sensible way of merging the separated accounts

consistent with archaeology
 
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well the identical names make me think that there was only one Joram Jehoram, only one Ahaziah Jehoahaz, only one Jehoash

so I'm trying to find a sensible way of merging the separated accounts

consistent with archaeology

Yeah, but it appears the line is pretty tight with the passages I quoted.

You mentioned Jehoram son of Ahab marrying Athaliah...can you show me where this is?
 
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Yeah, but it appears the line is pretty tight with the passages I quoted.

You mentioned Jehoram son of Ahab marrying Athaliah...can you show me where this is?
according to the Tel Dan Stele (TDS) Jehoram was the son of Ahab of Israel. Evidently Jehoram was the son in law of Jehoshaphat.

According to the black obelisk. Jehu was a son of Omri and according to the Bible Jehu was a son of Jehoshaphat. Evidently, he was royal on both sides of his family related both to the Omri and Jehoshaphat. Royal families
 
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