the tree of the knowledge of good and evil

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Men are as trees. A healing tongue is a Tree of life to its hearers.

Proverbs 15:4 A wholesome tongue is a tree of life: but perverseness therein is a breach in the spirit.

The Tree of the knowledge of good and evil is the mouth that blesses God but curses other men who are made after the image of God.

James 3:8 But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.
9 Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God.
10 Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.
11 Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter?
12 Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh.

Those who have knowledge of the good are to not partake of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil – the blessing of God and the cursing of men out of the same mouth.

13 Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.

Either make the “tree” good and his fruit good (speech) or else make the “tree” rotten and the speech thereof rotten for one can not partake of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil and expect to “live” – to continue blessing God and cursing men with the same mouth.

Matthew 12:33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.

“Vipers” of snakes have forked tongues….not a coincidence. The Pharisess honored God with their lips yet their hearts were far from Him. They spoke evil against Jesus…against the Word of Truth.

(34) O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
(35) A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.

Use the mouth as a Tree of life – a healing tongue and not let rotten communication proceed out of our mouths as the Pharisees did. Those who have this knowledge are to put away from the mouth all of the bitterness, wrath, anger, and evil speaking. One can not partake of that fruit and expect to “live”.

Ephesians 4:
(29) Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.
(30) And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
(31) Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:
(32) And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

For the tree and its fruit shall be made utterly rotten as a result of partaking of this kind of “fruit”:

Romans 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
(29) Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
(30) Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
(31) Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

How do we know the judgment of God for those who do these things? From the very beginning was this made known to Adam and Eve.

(32) Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

The judgment for eating of the “tree of the knowledge of good and evil” is “death” – being given over to a reprobate mind and a corresponding mouth that is to filled full of unrighteousness. The “tree” and its “fruit” will be made “corrupt” as a judgment so that the knowledge of the good will be removed out of one’s heart.

Genesis 2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
(17) But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Of every” tree of the garden” we may freely eat. A man’s belly shall be satisfied with the fruit of his own mouth. With the increase of his lips shall he be filled.

Proverbs 18:20-21 KJV
(20) A man's belly shall be satisfied with the fruit of his mouth; and with the increase of his lips shall he be filled.

Death and life are in the power of the tongue and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.

(21) Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.

There is no law against the eating of the fruit of the trees of the garden…..the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, goodness, faith….

Galatians 5:22-23 KJV
(22) But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
(23) Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

We cannot live with a double tongue….one which blesses God and curses men…and expect to live. One cannot sew “fig leaves together” and hide ourselves. The “fig leaves” are teachings. One cannot teach “peace and safety” while being double-tongued.

Genesis 3:7 KJV
(7) And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

For those who hide behind “peace and safety” while cursing men….shall know neither. Sudden destruction will come upon them as travail upon a woman with child.

1 Thessalonians 5:3 KJV
(3) For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

Genesis 3:16 KJV
(16) Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

What is really being said here? The “children” are the birthed words that are conceived in the evil heart. Those who will bring to birth the evil things out of his own mouth shall have their sorrow greatly multiplied….for by our words shall we be condemned in the day of judgment.

Matthew 12:35-37 KJV
(35) A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.
(36) But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
(37) For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

The end result: our desire shall be for the Lord (the Husband) who can heal the sorrowful things that will come upon those who will live like this. Every knee shall bow and every tongue will confess. Some will have to be humbled the hard way.

Jeremiah 3:20-22 KJV
(20) Surely as a wife treacherously departeth from her husband, so have ye dealt treacherously with me, O house of Israel, saith the LORD.
(21) A voice was heard upon the high places, weeping and supplications of the children of Israel: for they have perverted their way, and they have forgotten the LORD their God.
(22) Return, ye backsliding children, and I will heal your backslidings. Behold, we come unto thee; for thou art the LORD our God.
 
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Yes the use of words is really the evidence of an internal intelligence that works in a sphere of understanding that has grown and evolved like the branch of a tree.

Dr Howard Gardner has developed the current State of the Art in the field of Multiple Intelligences such as to be able to measure Semantical Intelligence by grading the degree of knowledge one possesses in that sphere or thinking.

But this "tree" in only one in the garden inside our mind which can fence us off from the extenal world and let us ponder the meaning of the sensory signals reaching the twelve cortex functional areas of of brain.

A close look at Gardner's work reveals that we have seven spirit of intelligence.

1) Id = Intra-personal Intelligence = ..............Lucifer
2) Libido = Kinesthetic Intelligence = ...................Satan
3) Ego = Inter-personal Intelligence =...............Mammon
4) Anima = Spatial Intelligence = ..........................Devil
5) Self = Semantical Intelligence =....................Beelzebub
6) Superego = Logical/Mathematical Intelligence = ...False Prophet
7) Harmony = Musical Intelligence = .........................False shepherd




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Crying wolf again, Cupid and still pinning scholar's names to your own work where it does not belong?

That is quite indecent.

Gardner's work on multiple intelligences has nothing to do with this list of 7 that only yesterday you were saying was a list compiled by Freud and Jung.

Since 1999, Gardner has identified eight intelligences: linguistic, logic-mathematical, musical, spatial, bodily/kinesthetic, interpersonal, intrapersonal, and naturalistic.

Gardner is still considering a ninth, or existential intelligence.

These are not meant to coincide with libido, satan, ego, or a false prophet. Please, stop attributing your own guesswork and poor scholarship to actual intellectuals. It undermines their credibility.
 
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Crying wolf again, Cupid and still pinning scholar's names to your own work where it does not belong?

That is quite indecent.

Gardner's work on multiple intelligences has nothing to do with this list of 7 that only yesterday you were saying was a list compiled by Freud and Jung.

Since 1999, Gardner has identified eight intelligences: linguistic, logic-mathematical, musical, spatial, bodily/kinesthetic, interpersonal, intrapersonal, and naturalistic.

Gardner is still considering a ninth, or existential intelligence.

These are not meant to coincide with libido, satan, ego, or a false prophet. Please, stop attributing your own guesswork and poor scholarship to actual intellectuals. It undermines their credibility.


Gardner has gone over board since his early success, but I do believe he missed out by not defining Intelligence before he started to departmantalize it into types.


Intelligence is merely that model in our mind which corresponds to what is True.

Truth is Intelligence: We know this, (though you will not believe it: i.e.; Cognitive Dissonance), because we mark only what is true as a measure of one's intelligent responses.

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What he is now doing is paralleling the Myers/Briggs Perspective Types that number considerably more that 7 which he first identified.

Essentially, these seven can be combined together in pairs to create a perspective in people which does have a foundation in what Gardner migt now accept as Intelligence.
 
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Overboard? Because he considers adding an addition to his original 8?

I see what you are doing, trying to imply that originally he had 7, and that is dishonest. He had seven criteria that he used to determine if a behavior was an inteligence, but the intelligences, themselves have originally been determined as 8.

Furthermore, Gardner isn't aiming for any specific number ie: trying to match up with Meyers-Briggs.

And multiple intellegences do not "pair up" to form intelligence. Each is it's own intelligence. Hence, multiple intelligences. It is a theory on specialization.
 
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The “garden of Eden” is within our own hearts. This is the place where we commune with God and know His peace. He has put the “man”…that is, the “hidden man” …the inner man…the heart… in “Eden”.

Genesis 2:8-10 KJV
(8) And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.

He gives us His peace within us so that we may guard our hearts….to “dress it and keep it.”

Philippians 4:7 KJV
(7) And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.

Genesis 2:15 KJV
(15) And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.

ABOVE ALL, guard the heart…..for out it are the “issues of life”. The river of the water of life flows out of our hearts via the mouth for what overflows from the heart proceeds out of the mouth. A “river” flows out of “Eden”…..the water of life….the preaching of Christ Jesus. We can not eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil…..blessing God and cursing men with a “forward mouth” and perverse lips.

Proverbs 4:23-24 KJV
(23) Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life.
(24) Put away from thee a froward mouth, and perverse lips put far from thee.

We may “eat” of the other trees of the garden….the FRUIT of the Spirit which is love, joy, peace, etc. There is no law preventing us from eating of the other “trees” of the “garden”.

Galatians 5:22-23 KJV
(22) But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
(23) Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

We have a “weaker vessel” though….the TONGUE. God has given us the ability to voice our hearts. This “woman” is to be in subjection to the “hidden man” of the heart. The “man” is to rule over his tongue.

James 1:26 KJV
(26) If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.

The “woman”…the TONGUE…. gives the “hidden man” of the heart “fruit” to eat. The tongue can give life or death by the words that come out of the mouth.

Proverbs 18:20-22 KJV
(20) A man's belly shall be satisfied with the fruit of his mouth; and with the increase of his lips shall he be filled.
(21) Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.
(22) Whoso findeth a wife findeth a good thing, and obtaineth favour of the LORD.

Those that love the tongue shall eat of the fruit of it….whether death or life.

Genesis 3:12 KJV
(12) And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.

The “woman”….the TONGUE….is what is used to transgress with and bring pain into our hearts. We can not curse others and expect to have continued peace within our hearts (Eden)…. “peace and safety”. Even a fool seems wise if he withholds his tongue.

Proverbs 17:27-28 KJV
(27) He that hath knowledge spareth his words: and a man of understanding is of an excellent spirit.
(28) Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

The “hidden man” is to withhold his tongue (not let the tongue usurp authority over the heart) and listen to the Word of Truth and not be quick to speak against it. He should be quick to hear, slow to wrath, slow to speak…his tongue should be still in silence.

1 Timothy 2:12-15 KJV
(12) But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
(13) For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

For the tongue…the “woman”… will give “fruit” to the hidden man of the heart to eat.

(14) And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

She shall be saved in “childbearing”…that is, if they continue in believing the Word of Truth and have love for the Truth then they also will preach the Word of Truth with the tongue eventually. We give “birth” to words. In this case, that would be the Word of God after receiving it and doing it.

(15) Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

But those who will speak rashly against what they will hear will eat of the “fruit” of “death”. There will be great sorrow in bringing forth “children”…..which are evil words….until they learn not to blaspheme and confess their sins to God.

Genesis 3:16 KJV
(16) Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

Every idle word that men will speak, they shall give an account for in the day of judgment. When the Word of Truth is revealed in their ears, then there will be no more sacrifice for their willful sins….evil speaking.

Matthew 12:36-37 KJV
(36) But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
(37) For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
 
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I know what I say sounds a bit strange. Please just consider it.

“Sing, O barren”, you who have not borne and did not travail with child.

Isaiah 54:1 KJV
(1) Sing, O barren, thou that didst not bear; break forth into singing, and cry aloud, thou that didst not travail with child: for more are the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife, saith the LORD.

In other words, they were “barren” of evil words coming out of their mouths. They did not bring to "birth" evil speaking with their tongues. Those who did not speak evil against what they heard are to sing the new song of the Word of Truth (more are the "children" of the desolate). Those who keep their tongues silent are the “desolate”….the “barren”….nor are they quick to wrath against what they hear.



Those "children" of the "married wife" is another way of saying they were quick to wrath and spoke rashly. Their tongues immediately "married" their evil hearts and produced evil words. They did not control their tongues. in the multitude of words.... "children"....sin is present. But those who will refrain their lips (the "barren") are wise.



Proverbs 10:19-22 KJV
(19) In the multitude of words there wanteth not sin: but he that refraineth his lips is wise.
(20) The tongue of the just is as choice silver: the heart of the wicked is little worth.
(21) The lips of the righteous feed many: but fools die for want of wisdom.

Great sorrow of the heart gets added to those who will not control their tongue. The tongue will give the heart "fruit" to eat.

(22) The blessing of the LORD, it maketh rich, and he addeth no sorrow with it.


“Woe unto them that are with child”…. in other words, woe to those who are hasty with their words and speak out in their wrath. Every idle word that will be given birth out of the mouth shall be held accountable in the day of judgment as the tongue will bring great sorrow to the hearts of those who do not hold control the tongue. The sorrow of “birth” shall be greatly increased. Their tongues shall set them on "fire"....bring troubles to them.

Luke 21:22-23 KJV
(22) For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
(23) But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.

It is better to be “barren”….or “desolate”…of any kind of evil response against the Word of Truth just because it doesn’t seem agreeable to one’ s own thoughts and ways of how things should be.

Matthew 5:37 KJV
(37) But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.

The days are coming….the day of judgment….where blessed are those who are “barren” of evil words…not speaking evil against what they will hear.

Luke 23:28-29 KJV
(28) But Jesus turning unto them said, Daughters of Jerusalem, weep not for me, but weep for yourselves, and for your children.
(29) For, behold, the days are coming, in the which they shall say, Blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the paps which never gave suck.
 
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And yet more rambling of a mad man....



God is “Spirit” which means “breath, wind, breeze”. Jesus is the WORD of God….the spoken Word of God. He is the SON of God birthed with a humble tongue.

With the exhalation of the breath, the tongue forms words which are carried to another’s ears through the air. We give “birth” to words so to speak which is motivated by what is in the heart. The words of the heart can’t be related to another’s ears without the tongue doing its part. The tongue is like a woman…..able to give birth to words. It is married to the heart and is the “weaker vessel” that is to be in subjection to the inner man of the heart. With it, we can build up others or tear down….life or death. We shouldn’t speak every thing that is in the heart. The tongue should be in subjection to common sense of what to say and what not to say.

God gives us His “Spirit”….His breath…so that we may speak His Word in Truth. Our hearts are to be filled with Him…the Father. They….the Father and the Word…shall make their “abode” with us…in our hearts. Our hearts are to become His….the inner man after His own heart. We are to become ONE in Him in heart…..an inner man after His own heart.

John 14:23 KJV
(23) Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Emmanuel…. “God with us”.

“Mary” meaning “bitter” represents the tongue of a lowly estate…a humbled tongue that will be used to “magnify the Lord” to others. Those who will humble themselves at the revealing of the Truth shall be exalted. Let our tongues become like “Mary” so to speak…….and He will lift us up.

James 4:9-10 KJV
(9) Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness.
(10) Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.

He will lift us up as He will regard our “low estate” ….

Luke 1:46-48 KJV
(46) And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord,
(47) And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.
(48) For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.

The Holy Spirit….the Breath of God shall come upon us…and we shall speak the Son of God…the Word of God. He gives us His “Breath” in our hearts….to have the will and to do His good pleasure.

Philippians 2:
(13) For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

We are to fulfill His commandments….have love for one another….

(14) Do all things without murmurings and disputings:
(15) That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;

….as we hold forth the Word of life which shall flow from us as living water giving drink…..life…. to the hearers of that Word.

(16) Holding forth the word of life;that I may rejoice in the day of Christ, that I have not run in vain, neither laboured in vain.

We will “birth” to the Son of God so to speak in words of life that will come forth from our mouths by the will of God who

Luke 1:35 KJV
(35) And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

Compare that to the Pentecost account. Similarities exist. The Holy Spirit came upon the disciples as it did Mary. The power of the Highest overshadowed Mary just as power was received by the disciples at Pentecost. This is the same thing told in two different ways. We shall be His witnesses by speaking the Word of God….giving “birth” to the Son of God.

Acts 1:8 KJV
(8) But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

Mary the mother of Jesus was there at Pentecost…. which is not a coincidence.

Acts 1:14 KJV
(14) These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren.

We shall sing a “new song” being witnesses of Him.

Revelation 14:3-5 KJV
(3) And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

We shall not defile themselves with “women”….that is with the tongue. What comes out of the mouth of man is what defiles him.

(4) These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

No deceit will be found in our mouths….we will not preach His Word of Truth with a hidden intent to gain money from others. No prosperity gospel will be preached. They will be without fault before the throne of God.

(5) And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.

No deceit will be found in their mouths.

Their “women” …their TONGUES…will not speak outward, great swelling words of vanity having “men’s persons in admiration because of gain”. They will not speak the Word of God as a cover for their own greed and vanity (the outward adorning of plaiting the hair, wearing of gold or of putting on of apparel).

1 Peter 3:1-5 KJV
(1) Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
(2) While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear.
(3) Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;

The inner man….the hidden man of the heart….is supposed to be in control of the tongue. The ornament of a meek and quiet spirit in the sight of God (which knows and speaks His knowledge) is of great price.

(4) But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.
(5) For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:

The tongue is not to be “dressed” in gold and apparel……speaking feigned words that are deceitful.

Jude 1:16 KJV
(16) These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.

We will be without fault before the throne of God. And where is His throne? In our hearts….where He is to be King and Lord. Seek first the kingdom (reign) of God within our hearts.

Jesus showed us the Way….he is the Way. Jesus was ONE with the Father in his heart ( the kingdom or reign of God over his heart was complete)and so every word he spoke was the Father’s. His words are life and spirit….flowing from Eden. The kingdom of God had come to the Pharisees by way of the heart of Jesus who was ONE in heart with the Father and the words he spoke toward them were from the Father. Jesus is the living temple and we are also who do His Word.

Matthew 12:28 KJV
(28) But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.
 
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The “mother of all living” is the tongue that speaks the Word of life. Those who hear and believe in the Word of Truth become the children of the promise….the announcement of the good news.

Genesis 3:20 KJV
(20) And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.

Life is in the power of the tongue. Interestingly, the Hebrew word for “power” is the word “hand” which signifies power. The “hand” of the tongue.

Proverbs 18:21-22 KJV
(21) Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.

Whoever finds a “wife”….. that would be“Eve”…..finds a good thing. “Eve” is the tongue that speaks the words of life and spirit…..speaking the Word of God. Verse 22 here in Proverbs has everything to do with verse 21….completely related. A healing tongue gives our hearts “fruit”….from the tree of life.

(22) Whoso findeth a wife findeth a good thing, and obtaineth favour of the LORD.

But there is another “woman”…another tongue…that many listen to. Her name is “Babylon” and she sits as a queen in many mouths of religious men. She rules over many in the church. She is decked with gold and precious stones and pearls and dressed in royal apparel. She is the flattering tongue that hides the covetousness within the heart of those who commit fornication with her. She confuses (Babylon) many with this deception.

It is the tongue that deceitfully merchants the Word of God in order to gain the things of this world from His people….money, grand church buildings, great ministries, power over the sheep, merchandising of religious products, glory among men, etc, etc, etc. This tongue rules over many in the churches.

Revelation 17:4-5 KJV
(4) And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
(5) And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

The Babylonian tongue speaks feigned words that appear righteous and wise to many….being decked out in all that glitter…but she really walks in craftiness while handling the Word of God deceitfully. “Babylon” is the flattering tongue that leads the simple…the many…. astray in order to make merchandise of them. We are to renounce her in order to speak the living Word.

2 Corinthians 4:1-2 KJV
(1) Therefore seeing we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we faint not;
(2) But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.

In this last day, the revealing of the wisdom, knowledge, understanding of God shall deliver us from this “strange woman”….the flattering tongue of many religious men.

Proverbs 2:16-17 KJV
(16) To deliver thee from the strange woman, even from the stranger which flattereth with her words;
(17) Which forsaketh the guide of her youth, and forgetteth the covenant of her God.

Those who have lived with a deceitful, flattering tongue are to “put away” that “woman” because of the “fornication” that the tongue has indulged in.

Matthew 19:7-9 KJV
(7) They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?
(8) He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.
(9) And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

Those who listen to the flattering tongue are led down the path into envying and strife and hatred of one another….”death”.

Proverbs 2:(18) For her house inclineth unto death, and her paths unto the dead.
(19) None that go unto her return again, neither take they hold of the paths of life.

Babylon….the flattering tongue….masks the covetousness in the heart of those who commit fornication with her. They deceitfully speak the Word of God as a cover for the covetousness in their hearts. Babylon…..the flattering tongue decked out in gold and royal apparel….sits upon seven abominations of the heart.

Proverbs 26:23-26 KJV
(23) Burning lips and a wicked heart are like a potsherd covered with silver dross.
(24) He that hateth dissembleth with his lips, and layeth up deceit within him;
(25) When he speaketh fair, believe him not: for there are seven abominations in his heart.
(26) Whose hatred is covered by deceit, his wickedness shall be shewed before the whole congregation.
(27) Whoso diggeth a pit shall fall therein: and he that rolleth a stone, it will return upon him.

The lying, flattering tongue really HATES those they inflict. The tongue is a “woman”.

(28) A lying tongue hateth those that are afflicted by it; and a flattering mouth worketh ruin.

Babylon is the flattering tongue and her end is bitter as wormwood. Many live in envying, strife and hatred as a result of this “strange woman”…the flattering tongue that deceives and takes the life away from those who listen to her.

Proverbs 5:3-5 KJV
(3) For the lips of a strange woman drop as an honeycomb, and her mouth is smoother than oil:
(4) But her end is bitter as wormwood, sharp as a twoedged sword.
(5) Her feet go down to death; her steps take hold on hell.

If we listen to the flattering tongue, then we give our honor to others and our years to the cruel. Strangers are filled with our wealth and our labors are in the house of a stranger. Many, many are currently doing these very things in their religious organizations…not knowing they are giving their time and money to those who really don’t care for them. They only desire for what you have and will dress up their speaking with fine-sounding, authoritative words in order to get it.

Proverbs 5:8-10 KJV
(8) Remove thy way far from her, and come not nigh the door of her house:
(9) Lest thou give thine honour unto others, and thy years unto the cruel:
(10) Lest strangers be filled with thy wealth; and thy labours be in the house of a stranger;

Many have drank her “wine”…..covetousness…and are drunk as they speak feigned words seeking to make merchandise of us. They joy in their hearts while they are taking advantage of the flock. Their judgment is impaired by their covetousness….the “wine” of Babylon.

2 Peter 2:2-3 KJV
(2) And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
(3) And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

Those who love their deceitful tongues….Babylon….commit “fornication” with her. They are enriched with “her”…by using their tongues deceitfully.

Revelation 17:1-2 KJV
(1) And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great harlot that sitteth upon many waters:
(2) With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.


Those that listen to the Babylonian tongue and approve of her sayings are joined together with her in one body. They share in her sins…..speaking and approving of her deceitful words.

1 Corinthians 6:16-17 KJV
(16) What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.
(17) But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.

The simple unknowingly take part in the grand deception.

Proverbs 6:32 KJV
(32) But whoso committeth adultery with a woman lacketh understanding: he that doeth it destroyeth his own soul.

But by the grace of God we are to be delivered from the “death” that this “woman”…the flattering, lying tongue…has led the many simple astray into.
 
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The “garden of Eden” is within our own hearts.
This is the place where we commune with God and know His peace.
He has put the “man”…that is, the “hidden man” …the inner man…the heart… in “Eden”.


I agree.

1) The Garden (Hebrew: fenced off place) is that "place" where we are separated from the external world we meet at birth.

"Eden" is a place of pleasure, or the solitude of our own mind.

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From H5727 ; pleasure: delicate, delight, pleasure.

2) "The 'garden of Eden' is within our own mind."

(heart = Hebrew: leb = mind)

3) "This is the place where we commune with God," for the kingdom of heaven is within:[Luke 17:21]

4) He has put the “hidden man” …the inner man…the heart… in “the skull”.
 
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I agree.

1) The Garden (Hebrew: fenced off place) is that "place" where we are separated from the external world we meet at birth.

"Eden" is a place of pleasure, or the solitude of our own mind.

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From H5727 ; pleasure: delicate, delight, pleasure.

Uh... that ay'-den is only used in 4 verses in the bible.

Gen 18:12
2Sam 1:24
Psa 36:8
Jer 51:34

In those context, yes, it means "delight."

Therefore Sarah laughed within herself, saying After I am waxed old shall I have pleasure, my lord, being old also?


That delight in her is created externally from having a child and shared with her husband. It isn't any sort of new age meditative state.
 
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Ecclesiastes 1:1 KJV
(1) The words of the Preacher, the son of David, king in Jerusalem.

“Ecclesiastes” (Hebrew: qoheleth)…..meaning “a FEMALE preacher” or “female assembler” represents the TONGUE that speaks God’s wisdom.

The words of the “Preacher”= the words of the female assembler=the tongue that speaks God’s wisdom to gather His elect.

The “son of David” represents the “hidden man” of the heart...the "inner man" (or mind if you prefer)……where our Lord reigns and gives us a foundation of peace and safety …. "Jerusalem". Our hearts are to be like His….an inner man after His own heart….just as David. He seeks an inner man after His own heart…..a heart that fulfills His will.

Acts 13:22 KJV
(22) And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will.

1 Samuel 13:14 KJV
(14) But now thy kingdom shall not continue: the LORD hath sought him a man after his own heart, and the LORD hath commanded him to be captain over his people, because thou hast not kept that which the LORD commanded thee.

Our hearts are to fulfill His will in order to be able to preach the living Word of God to others....to be a "captain" over His people. We are to believe and DO His Word of Truth.



He must rule in our hearts first…..seek first the kingdom (reign) of God. With the Spirit of God….His “Breath”….we shall speak the living Word to others. Living “water” shall flow as rivers out of our peaceful hearts...Jerusalem.... wherein we delight in Him…..Eden. God sits on His throne and reigns supreme in our hearts.

John 7:37-39 KJV
(37) In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
(38) He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
(39) (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

Rivers of waters shall flow in the streets…..from the "throne" of God.


Proverbs 5:16 KJV
(16) Let thy fountains be dispersed abroad, and rivers of waters in the streets.

We shall be like a tree…..a tree of life…planted by the rivers of water....teaching the Word of Truth with a healing tongue so that others may know Him also.

Psalms 1:1-3 KJV
(1) Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
(2) But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.
(3) And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.

A pure river of water of life…the true sayings of God…. shall proceed out of the throne of God and of the Lamb (our hearts). A river of life shall flow out of our mouths from the overflow of our hearts where He rules.

Revelation 22:1-6 KJV
(1) And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
(2) In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.


The throne of God and of the Lamb is in our hearts...where they will come unto and make their abode with. He seeks those who are inner men after His own heart....keeping His words within them.



John 14:23 KJV
(23) Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.


 
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The “son of David” represents the “hidden man” of the heart...the "inner man" (or mind if you prefer)……where our Lord reigns and gives us a foundation of peace and safety ….


Agreed.

The inner man resides in the fenced off area of our life experience which is the Eden of our mind, a place where we can withdraw in solitary pleasure of enjoying life and our own individual thoughts concerning it.

21Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.




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The Jews learn that is makes sense by reading the great teachings of

Maimonides talks about them (i.e.; the angel-like "messengers" that speak to us subconsciously) at length in his Mishneh Torah, Hilchot Yisodei HaTorah (Laws of the Foundations of the Torah).

While he meticulously classifies angelic rankings (there are ten), in his rationalistic system Maimonides equates them with the Aristotelian "intelligences" that mediate between the spheres.

As such they are conscious and govern the spheres in their motion...
... but in his Aristotelian context Maimonides is saying they are forms of natural causation rather than supernatural beings.

He also expands his definition to include natural phenomenon and even human psychology where he refers to the libidinous impulse as the "angel of lust".



The Mishneh Torah (Hebrew: מִשְׁנֶה תּוֹרָה‎, "Repetition of the Torah") subtitled Sefer Yad HaHazaka (ספר יד החזקה "Book of the Strong Hand,") is a code of Jewish religious law (Halakha) authored by Maimonides (Rabbi Moshe ben Maimon, also known as RaMBaM or "Rambam"), one of history's foremost rabbis.










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"Book of the Strong Hand," derives from its subdivision into fourteen books:

the numerical value fourteen, when represented as the Hebrew letters Yod (10) Dalet (4), forms the word yad ("hand").[1]
 
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Death and life are in the “power”….. Hebrew: yad (the open “hand”)….of the tongue. The open “hand” of the tongue can be used to bring life or death faster than any literal hand can. The open hand can carry a “sword”.

Proverbs 18:21 KJV
(21) Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.

The ”hand” of the tongue can bring “death” to the heart and to its hearers by speaking lies. Our “hands”….the “hands” of the tongue….. can be defiled with blood….by speaking lies.

Isaiah 59:3-4 KJV
(3) For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness.
(4) None calleth for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth: they trust in vanity, and speak lies; they conceive mischief, and bring forth iniquity.

We are to wash our “hands”…..the hands of the tongue. External regulations imposed by religious men do not bring righteousness but only hatred, envy and strife. Religious man fights with each other over his external commandments rather than keeping the Spirit of the law.

Matthew 15:18-20 KJV
(18) But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.
(19) For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:
(20) These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.

We are to wash our “hands”……

Colossians 3:8-9 KJV
(8) But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.


Ephesians 4:31-32 KJV
(31) Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:

A lying tongue hates those who are afflicted by it…..

Proverbs 26:28 KJV
(28) A lying tongue hateth those that are afflicted by it; and a flattering mouth worketh ruin.

Whoever hates his brother is a “murderer” and has no life within them. It is as if one had struck his brother down with his own physical hand…but it is with our own words that we do these things.

1 John 3:14-15 KJV
(14) We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.
(15) Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

If a man says he loves God but hates his brother, he is a liar.

1 John 4:20-21 KJV
(20) If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar:for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
(21) And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.

We can not eat from this “tree” of the knowledge of the good and evil …..blessing God and cursing men out of the same mouth…..and have His life also within us.

James 3:9-10 KJV
(9) Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God.
(10) Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.

But our Lord and Savior had died for our sins…..for our sins of this ignorance. Many only “sleep” in him and need to be “awakened” by the Word of the Truth. Many “sleep” in their hatred of one another….in their envy and strife and hateful debates. They have forgotten the commandment of God…to have love for one another and need to be reminded. They have fallen “asleep”…but in Christ…. who pays for our sins of ignorance.

Yet, the time is coming for those to awaken out of their “sleep” ….casting off the works of darkness….the works of ignorance. We are to awaken to righteousness and have love for one another.

Romans 13:10-12 KJV
(10) Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
(11) And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.
(12) The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.

“Adam” fell into a “deep sleep” which God had brought upon him. “Adam” is the hidden man of the heart…the inner man.

Genesis 2:21-24 KJV
(21) And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;

Our inner man is to be awakened by the Word of Truth spoken by the tongue of wisdom (the “woman” was brought unto the man). We are to hear His Word spoken by the wise tongue and keep it within us…..making what we hear the bone of our bones and the flesh of our flesh. We are to keep His Word in our hearts.

(22) And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
(23) And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

And once we have heard, believed, received and have DONE the Truth, we can also be preachers of the Word of Truth to others. We will no longer need any to teach us but shall know Him ourselves and will be able to speak His Word in spirit and in Truth. Our tongues shall be one with our hearts which God rules over.

(24) Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

We are to be “born” from ABOVE….that is, what we HEAR with our ears (which are above our hearts) which is the Word of Truth. The spoken Word that we hear with our ears is ABOVE our own thoughts and ways. We are to believe in what we hear with the ears so that our hearts can be regenerated….so that we can see the kingdom of God within our hearts.

How can He reign in our hearts if we do not believe in the Word of life….refusing to drink the water of life? How can we believe without first hearing the Word being preached by the Spirit….the Breath of God? How can we believe without a “preacher”….the “woman”…the tongue….that preaches the Word of God out of a pure heart? The “woman”…the tongue…. gives birth to the Son of God so to speak after the Spirit has come upon us.

John 3:3-5 KJV
(3) Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
(4) Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
(5) Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Not everyone will believe in such things. Yet, we are to follow the steps of Christ and sin not with our mouths when others revile us for believing and preaching the Word of Truth. Christ did not eat of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. He did not bless God and then turn around to curse men who reviled him. He did no “sin” with his mouth. He neither reviled others nor did he speak deceit.

1 Peter 2:21-23 KJV
(21) For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:
(22) Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:
(23) Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously:

Peter did not switch gears in the following chapter here when he speaks about husbands and wives.

He continues the same thought when he seemingly breaks away and talks about literal husbands and wives. He is really telling us to keep our tongues (the “wives”) in subjection to the hidden man of the heart as Christ did.

If any do not obey the Word of Truth that we will speak, then we are to keep our mouths from sin by not returning evil speaking for the unbeliever’s evil so that others who are looking on may behold our good behavior in such circumstances and be won over by the graciousness in our speech. This will also produce fear in those who witness our good behavior toward evil people. Christ did not revile when he was reviled.

1 Peter 3:1-4 KJV
(1) Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
(2) While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear.

Again, the outward “adorning” represents speaking deceitfully with the tongue. Christ did not revile when reviled nor was there found guile….deceit…in his mouth. There was no “wearing of gold” or “putting on apparel” in his speech in order to deceive others. There were no flattering, deceptive words.

(3) Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;
(4) But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.

Peter's conclusion here in verses 8-11 is speaking the very same thing in comparison to the “husbands and wives” verses. It is all saying the same thing.

1 Peter 3:8-11 KJV
(8) Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:
(9) Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing.

For he that will love life and see good days…..let him refrain his tongue from evil. Let the “wives” (tongues) be in subjection to the hidden man of the heart.

Let not his lips speak deceit = let not the “wife” be dressed in plaited hair, wearing of gold and apparel.

Do good and seek peace with the tongue and eat of the tree of life.

(10) For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile:

We can not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good AND evil. We are to shun the evil and pursue peace with all men.

(11) Let him eschew evil, and do good; let him seek peace, and ensue it.
 
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The “hidden man of the heart”…the “new man”….. is Christ within us.

Colossians 1:26-27 KJV
(26) Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:
(27) To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:

The first “man” is of the earth. There is bitter envying and strife within the heart of the first man of the heart. The second man is the Lord from heaven. The hearing of and the belief in the Word of the Truth ushers in the Lord into our hearts….so that we become a “new man” in the heart. He is the Word from “heaven”….the hearing of the Truth in our ears which enters our hearts. “Heaven” = “air”…..where words travel.

1 Corinthians 15:47-49 KJV
(47) The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
(48) As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
(49) And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

Where there is envying and strife, there is confusion….that woman Babylon. The woman Babylon is the flattering tongue even though there is bitter envy and strife in the heart…..the abominations of the “earth”.

James 3:14-16 KJV
(14) But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth.
(15) This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish.
(16) For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.

The religious “old man” struggles with each other over who is accounted the greatest among us. He fights and wars…harboring bitter envying and strife in his heart. He fights over church doctrines and commandments of men...things external. He covets and all of his labors are because of the envy of his neighbor.

Ecclesiastes 4:4 KJV
(4) Again, I considered all travail, and every right work, that for this a man is envied of his neighbour.This is also vanity and vexation of spirit.

But our God is merciful and full of compassion. He saves us from all of this vanity and vexation of spirit….the emptiness of our own breath that speaks vain, empty words motivated by envy and strife. By His grace are we saved.

If we hear His voice today in the “heaven”, we are not harden our hearts against what we hear. It will not sound like the preaching of Babylon….our fathers’ religion. We are to open the door of our hearts….HEAR and BELIEVE…to let Him in.

Revelation 3:20 KJV
(20) Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

He is the vine and we are the “branches”. We are to be His tongue so to speak. If Christ is within our hearts as the “new man”, we are His bride in tongue (speech) that is prepared to preach the Word of God. We are to abide in him….having love for one another.

John 15:4-6 KJV
(4) Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
(5) I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
(6) If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

We are to fulfill His commandments….having love for one another…so that we may be prepared for the “marriage of the Lamb”. We are to make the “wife” ready….the TONGUE!

The “wife” gets herself ready by putting off all anger, wrath, blasphemy, evil speaking, filthy communication, etc . We must get rid of these things out of our mouths in order for the marriage supper to come….so that we may preach the true sayings of God.

Revelation 19:7-9 KJV
(7) Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

Because of the Lamb’s sacrifice, we are able to be arrayed in fine linen (true righteousness)….to her was it granted to be forgiven. We are forgiven for our past evil speaking…our sins…with his blood. We have been living in ignorance…fighting and warring with each other over who is the greatest among us.

(8) And to her was grantedthat she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

Blessed are they which are call unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. The Lamb is able to use those who are prepared to speak the true sayings of God. We can now preach His Word of Truth because the tongue has been prepared and is now “married” to the hidden man of the heart…..Christ in us. Christ and the “church”….the called out.

(9) And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb.And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

The “wife” must prepare herself….that is , we must put all of these bad things out of the mouth….wrath, anger, malice, blasphemy, etc. That was the “old man” of the heart.

Colossians 3:8-16 KJV
(8) But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.
(9) Lie not one to another,seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;

Christ in us is the “new man” of the regenerated/recreated heart and we have to reflect that reality on the outside.

(10) And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:
(11) Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
(12) Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;
(13) Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.
(14) And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.
(15) And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful.

Let us be glad and rejoice for then the “wife” has made herself ready. The marriage supper is to be able to teach others the true sayings of God. We can “call out” to others to come and hear the “marriage supper”…the true sayings of God.

(16) Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.


With the Breath....the Spirit...of God and the "bride"(the tongue that speaks His Word),we can "call out" others saying "come" to take of the water of life freely.

Revelation 22:17 KJV
(17) And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.


But some in the churches will not agree and will revile and persecute those who know that Christ is in us. They will not confess that Jesus Christ is come into us as the “hidden man of the heart”.

They will oppose His message that His saints will preach….being “antichrist”. They will be “deceivers” because they will say they love God but will show their hate, contradiction, opposition in their evil words that they will speak. They will enter the “world”….the world of iniquity of the tongue.

2 John 1:6-8 KJV
(6) And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.
(7) For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

We are to look to ourselves….not rendering evil for their evil.

(8) Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.

Greater is He that is within us…..Christ who is the hidden man of the heart…..than he that is in the “world”.

1 John 4:3-6 KJV
(3) And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
(4) Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
(5) They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.

Those who will not hear ….not believing….will be of the spirit of error….the “breath” of error….and Satan is in their words as they falsely accuse and slander those who are of the Spirit of Truth. He will seek to devour those of the Truth by taunting them into evil reviling for reviling. Render not evil for evil. One can not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

(6) We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
 
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This definitely isn't mainstream thinking. I read through this and what seems to stand out the most isn't Christ but the intellectual individual....which is just plain old "self"

Too much "inner this" and "inner that" for me.

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A tale of two brothers.

When religious man hears that his offerings are not respected because they are of the “ground”…..from the heart that is harboring envy, strife and covetousness, then there is an urge to speak out against what he will hear in his wrath. The wrath of man works not the righteousness of God.

Genesis 4:5-7 KJV
(5) But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.
(6) And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?

If thou do well = receive the love for the Word of Truth with meekness and do it. Sin lies at the “door”…the mouth. This is why one must “overcome” and not let wrathful, proud words come out of the mouth.

(7) If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

Sin lies at the door of the mouth. We must overcome…..be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath.

James 1:19-22 KJV
(19) Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath:
(20) For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.

Sin lies at the door of the mouth.

Cain was instructed to do well…..to lay apart all of the wrath that might come out of his mouth and receive with meekness the engrafted Word. The Word is “engrafted” by the hearing of it.

(21) Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.

We are not only to hear it but also DO it and so save our souls.

(22) But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

But “Cain” which means “spear” rose up against his righteous brother and “slew” him. Abel was righteous…..he kept the sheep…..he kept the Word within him and DID it so that his offerings were respected to God. He had love for his brother.

Today, “Cain” will be those who will be in opposition at the hearing of the Truth shall rise up in their pride to speak evil of those who do receive, do and preach the Truth. Abel did not render evil for evil. He was faithful “unto the death”.

Genesis 4:8 KJV
(8) And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.

“Abel” means “empty, vain”. Cain considered what his brother said “in the field” where they talked as foolish and thought of him as a fool. Abel was a preacher of righteousness yet Cain did not want to hear it. And so he rose up against him and “slew” him with the “spear” of his mouth.

Whoever is angry with his brother without cause is in danger of the judgment.

Why? Because wrath boils over in the heart and the mouth seeks to speak evil. And those who shall SAY to his brother “raca”……and whosoever shall SAY “thou fool”….is in danger. One must

Matthew 5:21-24 KJV
(21) Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
(22) But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

Be reconciled to “Abel” who has endured the wrath so that the offering is acceptable.

(23) Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
(24) Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.

Those who do “slay” their brothers with the “spears” of their tongues will be judged of God. Vengeance is of God….He will judge His people. Be reconciled. We are to be “keepers of the sheep”…..our brother’s keeper.

Genesis 4:9-12 KJV
(9) And the LORD said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper?
(10) And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.

The “earth” is the heart of man. They will have sorrow of heart. No joy…no peace….no pleasant things….only mourning…weeping and gnashing of teeth until they have paid the last mite for their sins. Every tongue shall confess that the Lord is King of every heart.

(11) And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand;
(12) When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth.

We are to do well…..we are to hear His Word and DO it and not let wrathful words come out of the mouth before the “eyes” of God….at the hearing of His knowledge. Cain heard but did not DO what was righteous. Instead, he used the “spear” of his mouth to inflict others with.

Isaiah 65:12-16 KJV
(12) Therefore will I number you to the sword, and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter: because when I called, ye did not answer; when I spake, ye did not hear; but did evil before mine eyes, and did choose that wherein I delighted not.

And so the judgment is sorrow of heart…..howling for vexation of spirit….because of disobedience.

(13) Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, my servants shall eat, but ye shall be hungry: behold, my servants shall drink, but ye shall be thirsty: behold, my servants shall rejoice, but ye shall be ashamed:
(14) Behold, my servants shall sing for joy of heart, but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart, and shall howl for vexation of spirit.
(15) And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord GOD shall slay thee, and call his servants by another name:
(16) That he who blesseth himself in the earth shall bless himself in the God of truth; and he that sweareth in the earth shall swear by the God of truth; because the former troubles are forgotten, and because they are hid from mine eyes.

“Cain” is the “man of sin” …that “hidden man of the heart”…. who is to be revealed.

The evil in one’s heart is manifest before all by the tongue which will speak cruel, hateful things …..slandering and falsely accusing those who will love the Truth as being evil. The hidden “man” of their heart….the MAN OF SIN…is revealed by their evil speaking. Every one shall “find” him as his folly shall be manifest before all.

Genesis 4:13-16 KJV
(13) And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear.
(14) Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.

But those who see the man of sin revealed are to leave him alone…..not rendering evil for evil. God has shown us from the beginning that vengeance shall be taken sevenfold on those who do render evil for evil. Jehovah set a mark upon Cain.

(15) And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.
(16) And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.

The “mark” is their evil speaking that shall identify “Cain” in this last day…the man of sin.

The natural man shall consider the spiritual man foolish. Those born of the flesh (Cain) shall persecute those born of the Spirit (Abel). They shall “persecute” them with their evil words. The “manifest token” is the “mark”.

2 Thessalonians 1:4-6 KJV
(4) So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure:
(5) Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer:
(6) Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;

Their “mark” will be a sign of their perdition but to us a sign of our salvation.

Philippians 1:27-29 KJV
(27) Only let your conversation be as it becometh the gospel of Christ: that whether I come and see you, or else be absent, I may hear of your affairs, that ye stand fast in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel;
(28) And in nothing terrified by your adversaries: which is to them an evident token of perdition, but to you of salvation, and that of God.
(29) For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;
 
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