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The Ten Commandments expanded by Jesus:

Exodus 20:3-17:

1/ You shall have no other gods before Me.

It is written: You shall worship the Lord your God and Him only you shall serve.

Luke 4:8, Matthew 4:10, Rev. 14:7

2/ You must not make for yourself a carved image, a likeness of anything in heaven, on earth, or under the sea.

God is Spirit and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.

John 4:24, Acts 15:20, 1 Cor. 6:9, Ephesians 5:5, 1 Peter 4:3, 1 John 5:21, Rev. 2:14

3/ You shall not take the Name of the Lord your God in vain.

I say to you: do not swear at all…let your yes be yes and your no be no, for whatever is more than these is from the evil one. Matthew 5:34-37, 1 Timothy 6:1, James 2:7

4/ Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.

The Sabbath [seventh day] was made for man, not man for the Sabbath, so the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath. Mark 2:27-28

For Christians that seventh day is Sunday, as the first day of our week is Monday. Acts 20:7, 1 Corinthians 16:2

5/ Honour your father and mother.

Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. Ephesians 6:1, Col 3:20

6/ You shall not murder.

I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven.

Matthew 5:44-45, Matt. 5:21-26, Romans 13:9, 1 Tim. 1:9, 1 John 3:15

7/ You shall not commit adultery.

I say to you whoever even looks at another in lust has already committed adultery in their heart. Matthew 5:28, 1 Cor. 5:11, 1 Cor. 6:18, Galatians 5:19, Hebrews 13:4

8/ You shall not steal.

Neither thieves, the greedy, or drunkards and robbers will inherit the Kingdom.

1 Corinthians 6:10, Romans 2:21, Mark 7:21, Ephesians 4:28

9/ You shall not bear false witness.

For by your words, you will be justified and by your words you will be condemned. Matthew 15:19, Ephesians 4:25, Colossians3:9

10/ You shall not covet your neighbours possessions.

Take heed and beware of covetousness, for one’s life does not consist of the things he possesses.

Luke 12:15, Romans 7:7, Ephesians 5:3, 1 Tim. 6:10, Hebrews 13:5

Further New Testament scriptures:

John 1:17 The Law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

Luke 16:16a The Law and the prophets were until John the Baptizer, now the good news of the Kingdom is preached...

Matthew 5:17 I have come not to abolish the Law, but to fulfil it.

Romans 6:15 Can we sin then because we are not under the Law? God forbid!

Galatians 5:14 The whole Law is fulfilled in this: You shall love your neighbour as yourself.

Are the Ten Commandments still in effect? In principal they still are. Those Ten Commandments are restated and expanded by Jesus, we must obey them and do God’s will for us today. Matthew 5:20, 1 Peter 2:16
 

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The Ten Commandments expanded by Jesus:

Exodus 20:3-17:

4/ Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.

The Sabbath [seventh day] was made for man, not man for the Sabbath, so the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath. Mark 2:27-28

For Christians that seventh day is Sunday, as the first day of our week is Monday. Acts 20:7, 1 Corinthians 16:2

Galatians 5:14 The whole Law is fulfilled in this: You shall love your neighbour as yourself.

Sunday is the FIRST day of the week in the Bible. Galatians 5:14 is originally in Torah...
 
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Sunday is the FIRST day of the week in the Bible. Galatians 5:14 is originally in Torah...

I always find it curious that those who proclaim their adherence to the Law manage to alter or omit commandments that they find meaningless or in some manner irritating to them to one degree or another.
 
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The Ten Commandments expanded by Jesus:

Exodus 20:3-17:

1/ You shall have no other gods before Me.

It is written: You shall worship the Lord your God and Him only you shall serve.

Luke 4:8, Matthew 4:10, Rev. 14:7

2/ You must not make for yourself a carved image, a likeness of anything in heaven, on earth, or under the sea.

God is Spirit and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.

John 4:24, Acts 15:20, 1 Cor. 6:9, Ephesians 5:5, 1 Peter 4:3, 1 John 5:21, Rev. 2:14

3/ You shall not take the Name of the Lord your God in vain.

I say to you: do not swear at all…let your yes be yes and your no be no, for whatever is more than these is from the evil one. Matthew 5:34-37, 1 Timothy 6:1, James 2:7

4/ Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.

The Sabbath [seventh day] was made for man, not man for the Sabbath, so the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath. Mark 2:27-28

For Christians that seventh day is Sunday, as the first day of our week is Monday. Acts 20:7, 1 Corinthians 16:2

5/ Honour your father and mother.

Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. Ephesians 6:1, Col 3:20

6/ You shall not murder.

I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven.

Matthew 5:44-45, Matt. 5:21-26, Romans 13:9, 1 Tim. 1:9, 1 John 3:15

7/ You shall not commit adultery.

I say to you whoever even looks at another in lust has already committed adultery in their heart. Matthew 5:28, 1 Cor. 5:11, 1 Cor. 6:18, Galatians 5:19, Hebrews 13:4

8/ You shall not steal.

Neither thieves, the greedy, or drunkards and robbers will inherit the Kingdom.

1 Corinthians 6:10, Romans 2:21, Mark 7:21, Ephesians 4:28

9/ You shall not bear false witness.

For by your words, you will be justified and by your words you will be condemned. Matthew 15:19, Ephesians 4:25, Colossians3:9

10/ You shall not covet your neighbours possessions.

Take heed and beware of covetousness, for one’s life does not consist of the things he possesses.

Luke 12:15, Romans 7:7, Ephesians 5:3, 1 Tim. 6:10, Hebrews 13:5

Further New Testament scriptures:

In Deuteronomy 4:2, it is a sin to add to or subtract from God's law, so Jesus did not do expand it in disagreement with what the father commanded, but he did expound upon it by teaching how to correctly obey it as it was originally intended. For example, if we correctly understand what is being commanded by the 7th and 10th Commandments against adultery and coveting in our hearts, then we won't look at a woman with lust in our hearts, so that was not expanded.

Nowhere does the Bible say that Sunday is the 7th day for Christians, bur rather that is simply deciding to do something other than what God has commanded instead of following Christ's example of reseting on Saturday. Jews did not handle money on the Sabbath, so at the closing of the Sabbath on Saturday night at Havdalah is when it would work to take an offering.

John 1:17 The Law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

Luke 16:16a The Law and the prophets were until John the Baptizer, now the good news of the Kingdom is preached...

Matthew 5:17 I have come not to abolish the Law, but to fulfil it.

Romans 6:15 Can we sin then because we are not under the Law? God forbid!

Galatians 5:14 The whole Law is fulfilled in this: You shall love your neighbour as yourself.

Are the Ten Commandments still in effect? In principal they still are. Those Ten Commandments are restated and expanded by Jesus, we must obey them and do God’s will for us today. Matthew 5:20, 1 Peter 2:16

In John 1:17, the Greek does not contain the word "but", rather it is making a parallel statement that are two ways of saying the same thing in accordance with John 1:16 speaking about grace upon grace, so it is speaking about one example of grace being added on top of another. In Psalms 119:29, David wanted God to be gracious to him by teaching him to obey His law, in Psalms 119:142, God's law is truth, and Jesus spent his ministry fulfilling the law by teaching us how to correctly obey it by word and by example, so that is how grace and truth came through him.

In regard to Luke 16:16-18, Jesus did not go around telling people that God's law had ended so they needed to stop repenting, but rather he began his ministry with the Gospel message to repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand, and God's law is how his audience knew what sin is, so repenting from our disobedience to it is an integral part of the Gospel message. Furthermore, in Luke 16:17, Jesus said that it would be easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for the least part of the law to pass away, so he was not speaking about a law that he thought had already ended. In addition, in Luke 16:18, Jesus proceeded to teaching how to correct obey God's law.

If we love God and our neighbor, then we won't commit adultery, theft, murder, idolatry , kidnapping, rape, favoritism, and so forth for everything else that God has commanded, so love fulfills the law because it is inclusive of everything in it.
 
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In Deuteronomy 4:2, it is a sin to add to or subtract from God's law, so Jesus did not do expand it in disagreement with what the father commanded, but he did expound upon it by teaching how to correctly obey it as it was originally intended. For example, if we correctly understand what is being commanded by the 7th and 10th Commandments against adultery and coveting in our hearts, then we won't look at a woman with lust in our hearts, so that was not expanded.

Nowhere does the Bible say that Sunday is the 7th day for Christians, bur rather that is simply deciding to do something other than what God has commanded instead of following Christ's example of reseting on Saturday. Jews did not handle money on the Sabbath, so at the closing of the Sabbath on Saturday night at Havdalah is when it would work to take an offering.

In John 1:17, the Greek does not contain the word "but", rather it is making a parallel statement that are two ways of saying the same thing in accordance with John 1:16 speaking about grace upon grace, so it is speaking about one example of grace being added on top of another. In Psalms 119:29, David wanted God to be gracious to him by teaching him to obey His law, in Psalms 119:142, God's law is truth, and Jesus spent his ministry fulfilling the law by teaching us how to correctly obey it by word and by example, so that is how grace and truth came through him.

In regard to Luke 16:16-18, Jesus did not go around telling people that God's law had ended so they needed to stop repenting, but rather he began his ministry with the Gospel message to repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand, and God's law is how his audience knew what sin is, so repenting from our disobedience to it is an integral part of the Gospel message. Furthermore, in Luke 16:17, Jesus said that it would be easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for the least part of the law to pass away, so he was not speaking about a law that he thought had already ended. In addition, in Luke 16:18, Jesus proceeded to teaching how to correct obey God's law.

If we love God and our neighbor, then we won't commit adultery, theft, murder, idolatry , kidnapping, rape, favoritism, and so forth for everything else that God has commanded, so love fulfills the law because it is inclusive of everything in it.

Then we stumble across the ticklish issue of slavery. There are multiple commandments in the Old Testament defining and clarifying its conditions. It apparently did not offend God in the slightest to have humans enslaved to other humans. In the New Testament it is not at all rejected. In fact, Paul encourages those who are slaves to obey and serve their masters as they would the Lord.

When did God change His mind about slavery?
 
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I always find it curious that those who proclaim their adherence to the Law manage to alter or omit commandments that they find meaningless or in some manner irritating to them to one degree or another.

The issue of whether followers of God should follow what God has commanded in accordance with Christ's example is independent of whether someone is properly obeying it. Even if someone were the biggest hypocrite in the world, that wouldn't mean that they were wrong that followers of God should follow what God has commanded in accordance with Christ's example.

Then we stumble across the ticklish issue of slavery. There are multiple commandments in the Old Testament defining and clarifying its conditions. It apparently did not offend God in the slightest to have humans enslaved to other humans. In the New Testament it is not at all rejected. In fact, Paul encourages those who are slaves to obey and serve their masters as they would the Lord.

When did God change His mind about slavery?

He didn't, though slavery in the Bible is not colonial slavery.
 
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I always find it curious that those who proclaim their adherence to the Law manage to alter or omit commandments that they find meaningless or in some manner irritating to them to one degree or another.

Meaning?
 
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4/ Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.

The Sabbath [seventh day] was made for man, not man for the Sabbath, so the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath. Mark 2:27-28

For Christians that seventh day is Sunday, as the first day of our week is Monday. Acts 20:7, 1 Corinthians 16:2

Jesus rose on the first day of the week

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28 In the end of the Sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.

5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.

6 He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay.

So according to Keras we must now celebrate Easter on Monday
 
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Exodus 20:10 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God.

This can’t be anymore clearer than this, spoken and written by God. Exodus 20, Exodus 31:18

There is no scripture that says the Sabbath is the first day in the entire bible. Or that we can choose our own Sabbath instead of obeying what God instructed. We are told not to change one Word. Proverbs 30:5-6 and clearly not to add or subtract the commandments Deuteronomy 4:2
 
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The Ten Commandments expanded by Jesus:
Exodus 20:3-17:
1/ You shall have no other gods before Me.
It is written: You shall worship the Lord your God and Him only you shall serve.
Luke 4:8, Matthew 4:10, Rev. 14:7
2/ You must not make for yourself a carved image, a likeness of anything in heaven, on earth, or under the sea.
God is Spirit and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.
John 4:24, Acts 15:20, 1 Cor. 6:9, Ephesians 5:5, 1 Peter 4:3, 1 John 5:21, Rev. 2:14
3/ You shall not take the Name of the Lord your God in vain.
I say to you: do not swear at all…let your yes be yes and your no be no, for whatever is more than these is from the evil one. Matthew 5:34-37, 1 Timothy 6:1, James 2:7
4/ Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
The Sabbath [seventh day] was made for man, not man for the Sabbath, so the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath. Mark 2:27-28
For Christians that seventh day is Sunday, as the first day of our week is Monday. Acts 20:7, 1 Corinthians 16:2
5/ Honour your father and mother.
Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. Ephesians 6:1, Col 3:20
6/ You shall not murder.

I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven.
Matthew 5:44-45, Matt. 5:21-26, Romans 13:9, 1 Tim. 1:9, 1 John 3:15
7/ You shall not commit adultery.
I say to you whoever even looks at another in lust has already committed adultery in their heart. Matthew 5:28, 1 Cor. 5:11, 1 Cor. 6:18, Galatians 5:19, Hebrews 13:4
8/ You shall not steal.
Neither thieves, the greedy, or drunkards and robbers will inherit the Kingdom.
1 Corinthians 6:10, Romans 2:21, Mark 7:21, Ephesians 4:28
9/ You shall not bear false witness.

For by your words, you will be justified and by your words you will be condemned. Matthew 15:19, Ephesians 4:25, Colossians3:9
10/ You shall not covet your neighbours possessions.
Take heed and beware of covetousness, for one’s life does not consist of the things he possesses.

Luke 12:15, Romans 7:7, Ephesians 5:3, 1 Tim. 6:10, Hebrews 13:5

Further New Testament scriptures:
John 1:17 The Law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
Luke 16:16a
The Law and the prophets were until John the Baptizer, now the good news of the Kingdom is preached...
Matthew 5:17 I have come not to abolish the Law, but to fulfil it.
Romans 6:15 Can we sin then because we are not under the Law? God forbid!
Galatians 5:14 The whole Law is fulfilled in this: You shall love your neighbour as yourself.

Are the Ten Commandments still in effect? In principal they still are. Those Ten Commandments are restated and expanded by Jesus, we must obey them and do God’s will for us today. Matthew 5:20, 1 Peter 2:16
Exodus 31:16
(16) Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
Leviticus 24:8
(8) Every sabbath he shall set it in order before the LORD continually, being taken from the children of Israel by an everlasting covenant.
 
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1 And on the eve of the sabbaths, at the dawn, toward the first of the sabbaths, came Mary the Magdalene, and the other Mary, to see the
28 After the Sabbath, as it began to dawn on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the tomb.
Laurent Cleenewerck, ed., The Eastern/Greek Orthodox Bible: New Testament (Laurent A. Cleenewerck, 2011), Mt 28:1.
Link to EOB online
http://fortsmithorthodox.org/NEW TESTAMENT.pdf
Greek has been the language of the Eastern Greek Orthodox church since its inception ca. 2000 years +/-. Who better than the native Greek speaking scholars who translated the EOB, quoted above, know the meaning of the Greek in the NT?
 
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Matthew 28:1 Now after the Sabbath, as the first day of the week began to dawn, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the tomb.

Here is the same story in Luke:

Luke 23:56 Then they returned and prepared spices and fragrant oils. And they rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment.

Even after Jesus died His people still kept the Sabbath commandment.

In biblical times the days start in the evening. See Genesis 1

Genesis 1:19 So the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Lev 23:32 from evening to evening, you shall celebrate your sabbath.

Israel is just a name God gave to identify His people. Which is why the New Covenant continues to be made with the house of Israel and not gentiles. There is no more Jew or Gentile if one is in Christ, just God's people. Galatians 3:26-28


Hebrews 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people

The Sabbath is part of God's law, written personally by God Exodus 31:18 spoken by God Exodus 20, so this argument is not with man.
 
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In Deuteronomy 4:2, it is a sin to add to or subtract from God's law, so Jesus did not do expand it in disagreement with what the father commanded, but he did expound upon it by teaching how to correctly obey it as it was originally intended. For example, if we correctly understand what is being commanded by the 7th and 10th Commandments against adultery and coveting in our hearts, then we won't look at a woman with lust in our hearts, so that was not expanded.
Nowhere does the Bible say that Sunday is the 7th day for Christians, bur rather that is simply deciding to do something other than what God has commanded instead of following Christ's example of reseting on Saturday. Jews did not handle money on the Sabbath, so at the closing of the Sabbath on Saturday night at Havdalah is when it would work to take an offering.
In John 1:17, the Greek does not contain the word "but", rather it is making a parallel statement that are two ways of saying the same thing in accordance with John 1:16 speaking about grace upon grace, so it is speaking about one example of grace being added on top of another. In Psalms 119:29, David wanted God to be gracious to him by teaching him to obey His law, in Psalms 119:142, God's law is truth, and Jesus spent his ministry fulfilling the law by teaching us how to correctly obey it by word and by example, so that is how grace and truth came through him.
In regard to Luke 16:16-18, Jesus did not go around telling people that God's law had ended so they needed to stop repenting, but rather he began his ministry with the Gospel message to repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand, and God's law is how his audience knew what sin is, so repenting from our disobedience to it is an integral part of the Gospel message. Furthermore, in Luke 16:17, Jesus said that it would be easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for the least part of the law to pass away, so he was not speaking about a law that he thought had already ended. In addition, in Luke 16:18, Jesus proceeded to teaching how to correct obey God's law.
If we love God and our neighbor, then we won't commit adultery, theft, murder, idolatry , kidnapping, rape, favoritism, and so forth for everything else that God has commanded, so love fulfills the law because it is inclusive of everything in it.
I like how you alluded to my post without actually quoting and responding to it.
In Acts 15 and 21 when Paul and the elders from Jerusalem decided on the only requirements for gentile Christians, stated three times, why did they NOT include the Sabbath? How would the former pagan Christians in Rome. Corinth, Ephesus, Galatia, Philippi,
Colossae, Thessalonika etc. know to observe the Sabbath with no OT? Nowhere in the entire NT are Gentile Christians ever told to keep the Sabbath.
 
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Who better than the native Greek speaking scholars who translated the EOB, quoted above, know the meaning of the Greek in the NT?
Koine Greek scholars.

With ancient languages having the contemporary as a native language is not a benefit (it can even be an obstacle leading to assumptions in translation).
 
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Matthew 28:1 Now after the Sabbath, as the first day of the week began to dawn, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the tomb.
Here is the same story in Luke:
Luke 23:56 Then they returned and prepared spices and fragrant oils. And they rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment.
Even after Jesus died His people still kept the Sabbath commandment.
In biblical times the days start in the evening. See Genesis 1
Genesis 1:19 So the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
Lev 23:32 from evening to evening, you shall celebrate your sabbath.
Israel is just a name God gave to identify His people. Which is why the New Covenant continues to be made with the house of Israel and not gentiles. There is no more Jew or Gentile if one is in Christ, just God's people. Galatians 3:26-28
Hebrews 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people
The Sabbath is part of God's law, written personally by God Exodus 31:18 spoken by God Exodus 20, so this argument is not with man.
Correct me if I'm wrong. Weren't Mary Magdalene and the other Mary, Jews?
 
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Koine Greek scholars.
With ancient languages having the contemporary as a native language is not a benefit (it can even be an obstacle leading to assumptions in translation).

I guess you are implying that the native Greek speaking scholars were stupid but non-Greek speak scholars know more than they do? If that were true non-Greek speaking scholars would have exposed that long ago.
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong. Weren't Mary Magdalene and the other Mary, Jews?
Perhaps you can find the scripture that says the Sabbath is the holy day of the Jews.

God said the Sabbath is the holy day of the Lord thy God Exodus 20:10, Isaiah 58:13 Genesis 2:1-3 and God commands us to keep holy the same day that is holy to Him Exodus 20:8-11 because we are made in His image and to follow Him and His example.

This post is about the Ten Commandments. There is no such commandment for Sunday or first-day keeping in scripture, but there is for Sabbath-keeping, written by God and we are told not to add or subtract from His commandments.
 
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I guess you are implying that the native Greek speaking scholars were stupid but non-Greek speak scholars know more than they do? If that were true non-Greek speaking scholars would have exposed that long ago.
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No. Why on earth would you think that is what I'm implying????

If it help you to understand my post, I was not implying anything. I meant what I actually posted.

Now, if a scholar in an ancient language (any ancient language) claimed to be superior because they speak a contemporary version of that language, then I would question his/ her scholarship.
 
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