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The Sixt Th Seal Events and the emergence of the One World Government.

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by Riberra, Feb 12, 2015.

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  1. keras

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    Riberra and Straightshot, you have parts of the end time events correct, but none of us [I include myself] have it all sorted. Here is a scenario gleaned from Bible Prophecy:
    What the Word tells us WILL happen:
    The enemies of the Lord gather - Micah 4:11, Ezekiel 36:2
    They conspire to attack Israel - Psalm 83:1-8
    They prepare their weapons - Psalm 7:12, Ezekiel 7:14 [the situation today]
    The Lord will make those weapons recoil upon themselves - Psalm 7:13-16, Obad. 15
    God will use His Creation, the sun to send fire - Deut. 32:22 & 34-34, Isaiah 30:26 & 30, Hebrews 10:27
    He will judge the nations - Isaiah 63:1-6, Hab. 3:12, Rev 14 18-20
    The sun will explode an extremely bright flash and the moon will shine bright red - Isaiah 30:26, Joel 2:31, Acts 2:20, Rev. 6:12
    Then the sun, moon and stars will be obscured by the approaching Coronal Mass Ejection - Isaiah 13:9-13, Ezekiel 32:7-8
    A huge superhot mass of hydrogen plasma approaches the earth ; Joel 1:15-20, Malachi 4:1, Zephaniah 1:14-18
    Everyone will be terrified - Jer. 6:24-26, Ezekiel 21:5-7a, Isaiah 13:6-8, Rev. 6:15-17
    The atmosphere will be pushed aside - Rev. 6:14, 2 Peter 3:10, Isaiah 34:4
    The whole earth will be enveloped by fire - Isaiah 66:15, Zeph. 3:8, 2 Peter 3:7
    Only a remnant will survive in the Holy Land - Zech. 13:8-9, Isaiah 6:11-13
    His enemies will become ashes - Malachi 4:3, Ezekiel 30:1-5, Jer. 49:2, Matthew 3:12b
    Millions will die around the world - Psalm 97:3-5, Jer. 25:33, Isaiah 13:12
    But most will take shelter until it passes and survive to form a One World Govt - Daniel 7:23-24, Rev. 17:12
    The Holy Land will be regenerated - Joel 2:21-24, Isaiah 35, Amos 9:13-15, Jer. 33:12-14
    And the Lord's righteous people will gather there - Ezekiel 20:34-38, Isaiah 66:18b-21, Rev 7:9
    They will become the new nation of Beulah - Isaiah 62:1-5, Ezekiel 36:3-38, Jer. 31
    They will build a new Temple ; Zech. 6:15, Haggai 2:9, Ezekiel 40 to 48
    The attack by a Northern army will be won by the Lord ; Ezekiel 38:8 & 22, Joel 2:20
    The leaders of Beulah will sign a peace treaty with the leader of the O.W.G. Daniel 9:27, Isaiah 28:15
    Seven years later, Jesus will Return for His Millennial reign - Rev 19:11-21, Matthew 24:30

    The Lord has told us His plans and He will not relent or change them - Jeremiah 4:28
    There are plenty more prophesies and details to prove this scenario. Believe it or not; up to all to decide!
     
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  2. Straightshot

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    The Lord's more sure word of prophecy has been given to be understood .... He would not do otherwise

    Some who offer are at different levels of correct rendering .... and the balance are in confusion with some drawn off to other apostate persuasions

    One that has a high level of understanding needs not to offer apology .... there are a few of these around, but not many today .... the professing church is sorely apostate and has left the road

    But make no mistake about it .... all of His revealings can be understood 100%, otherwise He would not give them .... He has only limited what He wants one to know by the content .... He has simply not revealed all things

    That which He has can be understood and His warning is not to meddle with any of it [Revelation 22:18-19
     
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  3. Riberra

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    The ISIS conquest is financed and organized by the Illuminati as part of their Three World Wars which were planned for -trying - to finally impose their One World Masonic/Luciferian Government... They will fail if God have decided that the time is not come yet ... see http://www.christianforums.com/t7865583/
    This is part (or an added extension by Albert Pike) of the
    The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

    "The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."

    Albert Pike and Three World Wars (threeworldwars.com)


    Text in context:

    The Masonic Kingdom and Albert Pike
    Could Brigadier-General of the Confederate Army, Albet Pike have anything to do with the creation of such a "masonic kingdom"? If beeing head of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry and Grand Commander of North American Freemasonry is of any importance, the following excerpts from Albert Pike's Letter to Giusseppe Mazzini is an interesting read indeed:
    Following are apparently extracts of the letter, showing how Three World Wars have been planned for many generations.
    "The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the "agentur" (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions." 2
    Students of history will recognize that the political alliances of England on one side and Germany on the other, forged between 1871 and 1898 by Otto von Bismarck, co-conspirator of Albert Pike, were instrumental in bringing about the First World War.
    "The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm." 3
    After this Second World War, Communism was made strong enough to begin taking over weaker governments. In 1945, at the Potsdam Conference between Truman, Churchill, and Stalin, a large portion of Europe was simply handed over to Russia, and on the other side of the world, the aftermath of the war with Japan helped to sweep the tide of Communism into China.
    "The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time." 4
    Read More: Albert Pike and Three World Wars (threeworldwars.com)

    Read more:
    The Priory of Sion, the Protocols of Sion, the Seed of David, the King ...


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    UN Divides the World into 10 Regional Groupings

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    The Post War II New World Order Map: A Proposal to Re-arrange the World after an Allied Victory | Global Research
     
  4. Riberra

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    -ISIS group oppose all form of democracy in Arab Countries ...
    -Have you heard about ISIS before 2010 ?
    -Democracy movement come in many Muslim Nations following the Arab spring that began on 18 December 2010, and spread throughout the countries of the Arab League and its surroundings...which was fomented by the Illuminati to prepare the way for the ISIS group which role is to reestablish the Islamic Nation. Illuminati modus operandi in fomenting revolution is: Action/ Reaction /Solution all planned and financed by them... Illuminati /Zionist.... international world bankers (Illuminati/Zionist) ...

    Arab Spring - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    The Arab Spring (Arabic: الربيع العربي‎, ar-rabīˁ al-ˁarabī) is a revolutionary wave of demonstrations and protests (both non-violent and violent), riots, and civil wars in the Arab world that began on 18 December 2010, and spread throughout the countries of the Arab League and its surroundings. While the wave of initial revolutions and protests had ended by mid-2012, some refer to the ongoing large-scale conflicts in the Middle East and North Africa as a continuation of the Arab Spring, while others refer to the aftermath of revolutions and civil wars post mid-2012 as the Arab Winter.



    -Israel was founded by the Zionism movement for the sole purpose of preparing the way for the third World War planned by the Illuminati .

    The Illuminati are the human tools used by Satan/ Lucifer to prepare the way for his one world government ruled by the Antichrist.
    The Bible in John's Revelation tell us that one Day the whole World will be ruled by the Beast /Satan.


    Albert Pike and Three World Wars (threeworldwars.com)


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    The New World Order


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    Introduction to Conspiratorial History

    Excerpts:[​IMG]Conspiratorial History

    Conspiratorial history studies that part of history that is a product of man's planning. In conspiratorial history we are led to believe that events, such as wars and revolutions, are the result of planned events. While the conspiratorial view is not accurate for weather, volcanoes and earthquakes, it is a realistic and accurate view of the interrelationship of man and nations. Since the planning for most of these events was done in secret, we use the term conspiratorial history. That is; this history is the result of plans constructed in secret, which by definition is a conspiracy.
    Interestingly enough, the Conspiratorial View of History is also the Biblical View of History. Try Psalms 2 for starters.*
    We believe that current world events are not simply circumstantial, but the result of an organized campaign by an elite group of unseen and widely unknown world leaders. Their goal is to exercise absolute dictatorial control over the world, to establish a New World Order. __________________
     
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    After the 6th seal are the 7th seal and the first 6 trumpets before the 3.5 years of the mark. Before the mark there is also the first half of the 7-year-treaty, therefore already 3 years after seal #6 the time of the mark would be somehow to short? This would place seal #6 within the 7-year-treaty.
     
  6. Straightshot

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    There is no 7 year "treaty" in the first place .... it is the Lord who will confirm the covenant with a regathered remnant of Israel .... and the other prince who will come to desecrate [Daniel 9:26-27]

    The 70th week of 2520 days decreed for Israel [Jeremiah 30] will begin as stated [Revelation 6:12-17] ... this same time frame will include the Lord's pressuring of Israel to turn, and to punish the nations for refusing Him

    The first 1260 days will see the rising of Satan's beast in the human little horn of Daniel's visions in the Middle East ... by the end of the first 1260 days this one will have conquered the Middle East [Daniel 11:36-45]

    He will then invade and occupy Israel, Jerusalem, and the temple mount [Daniel 11:41; Zechariah 14]; and will rule for the next 1260 days [42 months] [Revelation 11:2-7; 13:1-5]

    .... and then the Lord will intervene and destroy him and His followers at Armageddon in the next 30 days [Psalms 83, Ezekiel 39; Daniel 11:45; 12:11; Micah 5:5-6; Revelation 14:14-20; 16:1-16; 19:11-21]
     
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  14. Straightshot

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    The 6th seal signifies human reaction to the Lord's judgment at the very beginning of the tribulation period and the related quake [Revelation 6:14; 8:6] is not the same as the one in Revelation 11:13 ... this quake only affects Jerusalem and the immediate area where the two prophets will be resurrected .... the quake at the beginning will affect the entire earth

    The last quake of the set will occur at the Battle of Armageddon and will be the greatest .... this one will also affect the entire earth [Revelation 16:18]
     
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    The Sixth Seal commences the last days events, it is impossible to move it to the end of the GT. You cannot open a scroll unless the seals are all removed.
    When it can be finally understood what it is the Lord will use on His Day of wrath, then the prophesies make sense.
    The 'hiding in the caves and among the rocks', will happen during the period between the explosion on the sun and the arrival of the cosmic plasma, then within one Day, it will all be gone. But our world will never be the same again and after all that must happen, takes place, the Lord Jesus will Return.
     
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    It is the same earthquake, with the same destruction, and the same people involved, because it is the same event.


    Rev 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

    Rev 16:18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.



    Rev 6:14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

    Rev 16:20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.



    Rev 6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

    Rev 19:18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

    It is Christ's Second Coming that John sees in the scroll after Christ removes the seals.






     
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    BaB, To conflate the Sixth Seal with the Bowls and the destruction of metaphorical Babylon in Rev 16, is sheer confusion and a misunderstanding of the whole sequence of Revelation events. Your parallels don't relate anyway; 6th Seal, islands and mountains moved....7th Bowl, islands and mountains not found....
    The earthquakes and the people described are simply two separate occasions, that's obvious to anyone reading Revelation normally, without any preconceived theories.
    Straightshot is correct, the Sixth Seal quake will affect the whole world, look at Isaiah 24 and Zeph 1:14-18 for starters!
     
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    A difference in the details does not mean two events are not the same.

    If they did, it would mean the women showed up at the empty tomb on three different occasions, because the details are not the same.

    It would also mean the Olivet Discourse was given by Jesus three times, because the different Gospels all use different details.

    The simple Laws of Probability, with no attempt to get the texts to fit one's doctrine, shows they are the same event.
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  19. Douggg

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    Not going to happen that way. Jesus returns to this earth and his foot touches down on the mount of Olives, it splits, and them in Jerusalem will scurry through the valley created.

    The false prophet and the beast will be taken and cast alive into the lake of fire. And then Jesus carries out judgment on all them who gathered together to fight against him... after Satan has been exposed for everyone to see.

    Where are you getting a one world government from those passages?
     
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  20. keras

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    Quite happy to ignore all what is written to happen before the Return?
    As for what the Jews will do, Isaiah 29:4 describes how the survivors voices will 'squeak out of the ground'. They will shelter in u/g bunkers. The 'flee to the mountains' prophecy was fulfilled in 70 AD.

    Did you actually read the 2 scriptures about the OWG? They both mention the 10 regions of the OWG, that will all confer their authority onto one powerful and charismatic man. It is that man who will sit in the Temple, thereby causing the AoD.

    BaB, we are getting pedantic now. My contention is there are two separate Days of the Lord to come. First the Day of wrath as described in the Sixth Seal and many other prophesies. Then the Return, after all that is prophesied, as per Revelation, Ezekiel 36 to 48, Isaiah 62, Amos 9:13-15, etc, has happened.
    Why don't you like the scenario I posted in #81? Lets see your effort at a it, supported by scripture, as I do.
     
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