The Sixt Th Seal Events and the emergence of the One World Government.

[Bible2]

Jerico Miles said in post 38:

The Antichrist is not Obama . . .

That's right.

Obama isn't the Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of Revelation's "beast"), because the gematrial "number of the name" of the Antichrist is 666 (Revelation 13:17c-18, Revelation 15:2), while the gematrial number of the name "Barack Hussein Obama" is 793:

B=2, A=1, R=90, A=1, C=3, K=20, H=8, U=300, S=100, S=100, E=5, I=9, N=50, O=60, B=2, A=1, M=40, A=1. Total = 793.

That is, the 666 in Revelation 13:17c-18 refers to the number six hundred and sixty-six, the "number of the name" of the individual man who is the Antichrist. The number of a name (Revelation 13:17c-18, Revelation 15:2) is determined by employing the ancient method of gematria, by which numerical values are assigned to the letters of any alphabet as follows: the first nine letters are 1 through 9, the next nine letters are 10 through 90 (counting by tens), and the rest of the letters are 100, 200, 300, etc., to the end of the alphabet. In Revelation 13:18, the "counting", the adding up, of the gematrial number of the Antichrist's name should be done in the same way that the gematrial numerical values of the 3 Greek letters (Chi, Xi, and Stigma) at the end of Revelation 13:18 (in the original Greek Textus Receptus) are added up to arrive at the number six hundred and sixty-six.

The numerical values of the letters of the ancient Greek alphabet (including the 3 obsolete letters of Stigma, Qoppa, and Sampi) were as follows: Alpha = 1, Beta = 2, Gamma = 3, Delta = 4, Epsilon = 5, Stigma = 6, Zeta = 7, Eta = 8, Theta = 9, Iota = 10, Kappa = 20, Lambda = 30, Mu = 40, Nu = 50, Xi = 60, Omikron = 70, Pi = 80, Qoppa = 90, Rho = 100, Sigma = 200, Tau = 300, Upsilon = 400, Phi = 500, Chi = 600, Psi = 700, Omega = 800, Sampi = 900.

Just as the numerical values of Chi, Xi, and Stigma at the end of Revelation 13:18 (in the Textus Receptus) add up to 666, so the numerical values of the letters in the Antichrist's name will add up to 666 (Revelation 13:17c-18). John used the Greek alphabet because it was the most common one used by believers when the book of Revelation was written. Today, the English alphabet is the most common one used by believers, insofar as English is the current lingua franca of the world. So the Antichrist's name will most likely add up to 666 in the English alphabet. The purpose of Revelation 13:17c-18 is to facilitate for believers, not make difficult for them, the identification of a certain man as possibly being the Antichrist. If the letters in his name had to be transliterated into the Greek alphabet, this would vitiate this purpose, for almost all believers today wouldn't know how to properly perform this transliteration, and so different believers would come up with different transliterations, and so would come up with different gematrial numbers for the name of the man in question.

If believers think that someone is the Antichrist, they need to check and make sure that his name adds up to 666 in gematria (Revelation 13:17c-18). If it doesn't, then he isn't the Antichrist. If it does, then he could be, and they need to be especially wary of him and not be taken in by any deceptive charisma, intelligence, or amazing deeds which he might display. But even if someone's name adds up to 666, this doesn't mean that he is definitely the Antichrist. For just by chance there could be more than one person in the world whose name adds up to 666. The Antichrist also has to come from a country the territory of which used to be part of one of the 4 Diadochian Greek kingdoms which succeeded Alexander the Great (Daniel 8:8-9,21-25). These kingdoms stretched from Greece over to Iran, and down into Egypt. So the Antichrist could come from the Middle East. He could be an Arab who will come from Lebanon, from the modern city of Tyre (Ezekiel 28:2; 2 Thessalonians 2:4), and have a name like (for example) "Nabil Abdullah Falakal al-Hakim", which adds up to 666.

But if a man from the Middle East has a name which adds up to 666, even this doesn't assure that he is the Antichrist. For he also has to sit (at least one time) in a 3rd Jewish temple in Jerusalem and proclaim himself God (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4, Daniel 11:31,36, Matthew 24:15, Revelation 11:1-2). Once he does that, there won't be any more room for doubt over whether or not he is the Antichrist; his identity will have been definitely revealed (2 Thessalonians 2:3b-4).

The gematrial numerical values of the letters of the English alphabet are: A=1, B=2, C=3, D=4, E=5, F=6, G=7, H=8, I=9, J=10, K=20, L=30, M=40, N=50, O=60, P=70, Q=80, R=90, S=100, T=200, U=300, V=400, W=500, X=600, Y=700, Z=800. The way that the gematrial number of a name is "counted" (Revelation 13:17c-18), is added up, is simply by adding up the gematrial numerical values of all the letters in that name. So, for example, the number of the name "John Mark Smith" is 636, because: J=10, O=60, H=8, N=50, M=40, A=1, R=90, K=20, S=100, M=40, I=9, T=200, H=8. Total = 636. The Antichrist's name will add up to 666 (Revelation 13:17c-18).

 

[BABerean2]

It's not a possible reality to form a One-World Government at this current age because there's no way Putin and Kim Jong-Un will rub noses with Obama or any other future president unless Washington decides to take a backseat. You would also need to get Russia out of Crimea and the rest of Ukraine, plus get Obama and his coalition of 50 ally countries to stop fighting ISIS in Syria.

And you have new problems now with Jordan recently declaring war on ISIS while the country of Yemen on the verge of a civil war. There's more problems being develop faster than solutions available, and as long as ISIS exist, there can never be a One-World Government. Nobody can coexist with these terrorists, their agenda is world domination.

There might be a chance of a One-World Government 100 years later but not this current time. The truth is, there's no OWG, it's a misinterpretation as is many other bible prophecies you hear experts claim: Mystery Babylon is not Washington or Rome, The Mark of the Beast is not a microchip, The Antichrist is not Obama, etc. Eventually people will realize this OWG is also an error when we get closer to the Second Coming. The government that will be form in the future is not global.

At one time Walter Cronkite was considered "The most trusted man in America".

What did he not reveal to the American people on the nightly news?

What did he say about Satan at a meeting of the World Federalists?
(time 7:00 on this video)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaS6bLQixkM

 

[Jerico Miles]

At one time Walter Cronkite was considered "The most trusted man in America".

What did he not reveal to the American people on the nightly news?

What did he say about Satan at a meeting of the World Federalists?
(time 7:00 on this video)

I have no idea. I just know he passed away already.

 

[Straightshot]

Reply to the OP

The seals are portents of the prevalent conditions of the coming tribulation

And there will be no one world "new order"[government] ..... nothing but world disorder will prevail at the hands of Satan's beast

 

[Riberra]

Reply to the OP

The seals are portents of the prevalent conditions of the coming tribulation

Can you tell us more about those actual prevalent conditions who can give us a clue about the moment when the 6 th seal events will occurs?

Everything about the opening of the 6 th seal tell us that the events will occurs suddenly without warning. link post #1

Revelation 6
12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

And there will be no one world "new order"[government] ..... nothing but world disorder will prevail at the hands of Satan's beast

Listen now to God's prophecy concerning the secret plans which these 10 rulers devise to seize control of the world and then hand this control over to Antichrist [the Beast]. Notice that these 10 rulers are secretly working with Antichrist even before he becomes public:

Revelation 17:12-13,17
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation 17&version=KJV

"The 10 horns that you observed are 10 rulers... who are to receive power and authority for a single hour, along with the beast. These have one common policy (purpose), and they deliver their power to the beast... God has put it into their hearts to carry out His own purpose by acting in harmony in surrendering their royal power and authority to the beast until the prophetic words of God shall be fulfilled." [Revelation 17:12-13, 17]
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A careful reading of this passage makes it very clear that the 10 rulers devise a plan prior to the appearance of Antichrist, and that they plan to turn their political power over to the Antichrist as soon as he arises. This scenario is very consistent with Daniel's revelations about the 10 toes and 10 rulers in chapters 2 and 7, respectively.

Source:

UN Divides the World into 10 Regional Groupings

The Post War II New World Order Map: A Proposal to Re-arrange the World after an Allied Victory | Global Research

Therefore, when we see the U.S. President leading the global charge to a United Nations' government, we know that this is Satan's plan, not God's. We can also know that its final implementation is the result of a conspiracy, supernaturally directed by Satan for well over 100 years. And, just as the Bible foretold, this conspiracy will result in the appearance of Antichrist.

 

[Riberra]

From post #35
The 6th seal (Revelation 6:12-14) could be fulfilled in our future by a huge volcanic eruption (possibly of the Yellowstone Caldera) which will indeed occur during only the first stage of the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24. This eruption could begin with a large earthquake (Revelation 6:12), signaling the sudden rising of magma within the volcano. When it erupts, it could shoot so much ash and smoke into the sky that the sun will appear darkened and the moon blood-red (Revelation 6:12b), like happens during large forest fires. The volcano could also shoot blobs of red-hot magma into the sky, which as they fall back down could appear like falling stars (Revelation 6:13). And it could shoot so much super-heated ash and smoke so high and so quickly into the sky that they could form a gigantic mushroom cloud which will make the sky (the 1st heaven) look like a scroll being rolled up (Revelation 6:14). Earthquakes connected with the eruption could be so large that they set off a chain reaction of other earthquakes in nearby faults and volcanoes, which could set off even more earthquakes further away, and so on, so that earthquakes will end up affecting every mountain and island, moving each of their positions at least a little bit (Revelation 6:14b).

That is effectively a possibility.Given that the great earthquake come first in the sequence of events at the opening of the 6 th seal.

Revelation 6
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...+6&version=KJV

12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together;
and every mountain and island were moved out of their places

 

[Straightshot]

"Can you tell us more about those actual prevalent conditions who can give us a clue about the moment when the 6 th seal events will occurs?"


What specifically would you like to know about the symbolic seals that bind the scroll?

The tribulation conditions are all listed in chapter 6

The 7th is a short silence just before the actual judgments fall beginning in chapter 8

 

[Riberra]

Reply to the OP

The seals are portents of the prevalent conditions of the coming tribulation

"Can you tell us more about those actual prevalent conditions who can give us a clue about the moment when the 6 th seal events will occurs?"

What specifically would you like to know about the symbolic seals that bind the scroll?

I though that you were saying that the actual prevalent World conditions (political ,religious ,environmental) can provide us a clue about when the opening of the 6 th seal will occur.

The symbolism of the seals is not what matters.

Can you precise what you mean by
"The seals are portents of the prevalent conditions of the coming tribulation" ???

 

[Straightshot]

No

Read the conditions that the seals describe about the events of coming tribulation

All will be prevalent during the tribulation

The Lord must remove all of the seals before the scroll of the judgments will open [Revelation 5:5-10]

.... then the scroll will open and the events will begin

The 6th gives an inset of the beginning of the tribulation and the human response to the Lord's judgment [Psalms 2; Matthew 24:36-39; Revelation 6:12-17]

The others involve the spreading of the gospel of the Lord's coming millennial kingdom at the end of the period [Matthew 24:14], intense angelic and human war fare, worldwide economic collapse, massive human death, martyrdom of those who become believers, .... the 6th is the beginning of the actual events of the tribulation, and the continuation of the same

The 7th is the short silence in heaven just before the judgments begin to fall ..... the 144000 of the mortal children of Israel must be sealed for protection during their mission just before the tribulation comes

 

[keras]

An Explanation of the Sixth Seal -
Revelation 6:12-17;
I watched as the Lamb broke the sixth seal, At this moment a coronal mass ejection will explode out from the sun. Isaiah 30:26, Malachi 4:1, Zephaniah 3:8, Jeremiah 23:19

There was a violent earthquake The microwave effect of the short wave spectrum penetrates the earth’s crust, triggering worldwide earthquakes. Haggai 2:6, Deut. 32:22, Isaiah 26:18-20, Amos 8:8-9, Psalm 18:7

The sun turned black as a funeral pall The approaching mass of the CME will obscure the sun. Joel 2:31, Amos 5:20

The moon became a red as blood The superheated hydrogen plasma strikes the moon and causes a thermite reaction with the aluminium oxide moon dust. Joel 2:31

The stars in the sky fell like ripe figs All our satellites crash to earth and its likely there will be a meteor shower. Isaiah 34:4, Isaiah 28:2

The sky vanished like a scroll being rolled up ; Our magnetosphere and atmosphere facing the sun are pushed aside by this great pressure wave. Jeremiah 30:23, Isaiah 34:4, 2 Peter 3:10, Isaiah 51:6

Every mountain and island moved from their place Tectonic plate movement caused by the microwave effect. Jeremiah 4:23-24, Habakkuk 3:6, Isaiah 13:13

Everyone from high to lowly hid themselves people are terrified by what is coming and they scramble for cover. Ezekiel 7:15-19, Zeph. 1:3 & 11, Luke 21:26

They called out: Hide us from the wrath of the Lamb People want to die rather than face this punishment. Isaiah 2:19, Isaiah 28:21-22, Jeremiah 25:38, Luke 23:30

For the great Day of the Lord has come and who can stand? Deuteronomy 32:22, Ezekiel 7:7, Zephaniah 1:14-18, Joel 1:15. This is the great Day of the Lords vengeance and wrath, prophesied over 100 times throughout the Bible, it is this terrible event that enables the establishment of a One World Government. But those who took heed of the warnings, took shelter and at the same time called to the Lord for protection, trusting to Him for salvation; they will pass safely through all that is to come Luke 21:36, 1 Peter 1:5, Psalm 68:1-3, Joel 3:16 and will receive the great blessings the Lord has for His righteous people.

 

[Bible2]

Riberra said in post 45:

[Revelation 17:12-13, 17]

A careful reading of this passage makes it very clear that the 10 rulers devise a plan prior to the appearance of Antichrist, and that they plan to turn their political power over to the Antichrist as soon as he arises. This scenario is very consistent with Daniel's revelations about the 10 toes and 10 rulers in chapters 2 and 7, respectively.

Do you interpret Revelation 17:13 to mean that its 10 kings (which could be individual people) will bring the Antichrist to power? If so, note that it could mean the opposite. For Revelation 17:12 shows that they will receive power as kings only when the Antichrist does. On the other hand, in Daniel 7:24, its 10 kings arise before the Antichrist does, and so they could be 10 major nations which currently exist, just as in Daniel 7:17, the 4 kings are 4 empires (cf. Daniel 7:23) which existed in the past.

That is, in Daniel 7, the first 3 beasts (Daniel 7:3-6) represent the ancient empires of Babylon (lion), Medo-Persia (bear), and Greece (leopard). And the 4th beast, or 4th "king"/"kingdom" (Daniel 7:17,23), represents the ancient Roman empire. And the 10 horns/kings which come out of it (Daniel 7:7,24) could represent 10 major kingdoms/nations today which came out the former territory of the Roman empire, which consisted not only of Western Europe, but also the Middle East and North Africa. These 10 nations could be Germany, the U.K., France, Italy, Spain, Turkey, Egypt, Iraq, Algeria, and Syria. The 10 part-iron/part-clay toes of Daniel 2:42 could represent the same thing as the 10 horns of Daniel 7:7. The Europeans could be the iron, and the Arabs and Turks could be the clay. In Daniel 2:43, the inability of the iron to mix with the clay could represent how, for example, there are many Turks living in Germany, but they remain separated in ghettoes within German cities. Similarly, there are many Arab Algerians living in France, but they remain separated in ghettoes within French cities.

But despite this social separation, which could endure indefinitely, the people of Western Europe on the one hand and the people of the Middle East and North Africa on the other could still one day put aside their political separation and become united into one federation. For Daniel 2:42 refers to the 10 as a singular "kingdom". The person who brings this about could be the Antichrist. The arising of the "little" horn (Daniel 7:8, Daniel 8:9), which is "diverse" from the 10 major nations (Daniel 7:24), could mean that the Antichrist will arise from a little country.

And the little horn arising from "among" the 10 major nations (Daniel 7:8) could mean that the Antichrist's country's territory used to be part of the Roman empire. And before that, it was part of one of the 4 Diadochian Greek kingdoms which succeeded the Greek empire of Alexander the Great (Daniel 8:8-9,21-25). The territory of these 4 kingdoms stretched from Greece over to Iran, and down into Egypt. So the Antichrist could come from the Middle East. He could be an Arab who will come from the little country of Lebanon, from the modern city of Tyre (Ezekiel 28:2; 2 Thessalonians 2:4).

The Antichrist could start out by claiming to be a Baathist. After becoming the leader of Lebanon, he could peacefully gain control of a Baathist federation of 3 of the 10 major nations (Daniel 7:24): Egypt, "toward the south" of Lebanon (Daniel 8:9), and Iraq and Syria, "toward the east" of Lebanon (Daniel 8:9). This federation could also include the minor nation of a United Palestine, i.e. a defeated Israel, "the pleasant land" (Daniel 8:9).

This Baathist federation could be put together in the future by an Iraqi Baathist General who could completely defeat and occupy Israel and Egypt with a huge Iraqi Army (Daniel 11:15-17; in verse 17 the original Hebrew word translated as "daughter" is "bath"), but who could then mysteriously disappear (Daniel 11:19) shortly before the Antichrist arises on the world stage (Daniel 11:21-45). Years later, when the Antichrist gains control of all 10 of the major nations, he could appoint kings over them (Revelation 17:12) who will defer to him (Revelation 17:13), like when Napoleon gained control of different nations, he appointed kings over them who would defer to him.

Riberra said in post 45:

We can also know that its final implementation is the result of a conspiracy, supernaturally directed by Satan for well over 100 years.

Ultimately, the power behind the Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of Revelation's "beast") will be Lucifer/Satan (the dragon) (Revelation 13:4, Revelation 12:9; 2 Thessalonians 2:9), just as the controllers of the unsaved world have always been (and are still currently) Lucifer and his fallen angels (Ephesians 6:12, Ephesians 2:2-3). And there could also be a secret cabal of human world leaders in big business, finance, intelligence agencies, federal law enforcement, politics, the media/entertainment, the military, and religion, who know this fact, and so have secretly become worshippers of Lucifer in order to obtain from him all of the world's power, wealth, and pleasures that they can (cf. Matthew 4:9).

These Luciferians could have been working secretly together for some time (including through a worldwide secret society which teaches Gnostic Luciferianism at its highest degree of initiation) to prepare the way politically, economically, culturally, militarily, and religiously for a single Luciferian human world leader (the Antichrist) to take hegemony over the whole earth (Revelation 13:7b) and, along with his miracle-working False Prophet, to bring the world into the conscious and open worship of Lucifer and the Antichrist (Revelation 13:4-18, Revelation 19:20). God will let them succeed in this, but for less than 4 years (Revelation 13:5b, Daniel 12:11-12), before Jesus Christ returns from heaven and defeats them completely (Revelation 19:20 to 20:3). Jesus will then set up his own, 1,000-year, physical kingdom on the earth with the physically resurrected church (Revelation 20:4-6, Revelation 5:10, Revelation 2:26-29, Psalms 66:3-4, Psalms 72:8-11, Zechariah 14:8-21).

Riberra said in post 45:

We can also know that its final implementation is the result of a conspiracy, supernaturally directed by Satan for well over 100 years.

Revelation 13:2b refers to when Lucifer (Satan, the dragon, Revelation 12:9) will give the Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of the beast) Satan's own earthly throne (seat) and power, so that the Antichrist will have power over all the nations of the earth (Revelation 13:7). This is what Satan offered Jesus, if he would worship Satan (Luke 4:5-7). In the 1st century AD, Satan's earthly throne was in the city of Pergamum (in what is now Turkey) (Revelation 2:12-13). Satan's earthly throne could be the Great Altar of Pergamum, also called the Pergamon Altar, which in ancient times was sometimes included as one of the 7 wonders of the world.

It may not be just a coincidence that shortly after the Pergamon Altar was moved to Berlin around 1900 AD, both World Wars were started from Berlin, or that "the Nazi-era architect Albert Speer used the Pergamon Altar as the model for the Zeppelintribüne, 1934-37. The Führer's pulpit was in the center of the tribune" (Pergamon Altar - Wikipedia) (quote has been deleted for some reason). When the Antichrist is given power over the whole earth (Revelation 13:7), his throne could be located in the center of the actual Pergamon Altar, which he could move from Berlin to a main temple to himself (and to Lucifer/Satan) in the literal, rebuilt city of Babylon (in Iraq). For a temple to "wickedness" will be built in Shinar (Babylonia) (Zechariah 5:8,11), and the Antichrist is called "that Wicked" (2 Thessalonians 2:8). Also, the dragon has been the god worshipped in the city of Babylon since ancient times.

Riberra said in post 45:

We can also know that its final implementation is the result of a conspiracy, supernaturally directed by Satan for well over 100 years.

If Ezekiel 28:2 has application to future events because of its similarity to the never-fulfilled 2 Thessalonians 2:4, then the prince of Tyre could be the future human ruler commonly called the Antichrist (Daniel 11:36, Revelation 13:5-18). If that is the case, then the king of Tyre (Ezekiel 28:12) could be Lucifer/Satan (the dragon), who will empower the Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of Revelation's "beast") (Revelation 13:4, Revelation 12:9; 2 Thessalonians 2:9). Lucifer, before his fall and man's fall, could have been placed as a covering cherub over Eden (Ezekiel 28:13-15).

There is a curious correlation between the prince and the king of Tyre on the one hand (Ezekiel 28), and the use of the name Hiram in the mystical teachings of a worldwide secret society which teaches Gnostic Luciferianism at its highest degree of initiation. For Hiram was the name of the human king of Tyre at the time of the building of King Solomon's temple (1 Kings 5). Also, Hiram was the name of another person from Tyre, the human master workman who helped Solomon build the temple (1 Kings 7:13-14). If the king and the prince of Tyre addressed in Ezekiel 28 are Lucifer and the Antichrist, then the name Hiram would be a perfect code name (not the actual name) for both of them, a name by which their identity within the Gnostic Luciferian teachings of the worldwide secret society could be kept secret from all but its highest-level initiates. Just as the human workman named Hiram built a temple to God in which all the world was to worship (1 Kings 8:41-43), so the Antichrist will bring the world into the worship of Lucifer (Revelation 13:4), when the Antichrist gains power over the earth (Revelation 13:7).

The Antichrist's future, Luciferian rule over the earth could be pictured by the most common, publicly known symbol for the worldwide secret society, in which a drafting/measuring compass, an instrument shaped like the 2 legs of an "A" (as in "Antichrist"), is sometimes shown standing on top of a globe of the earth. And beneath, as in support of, the "A" is a drafting/measuring square, an instrument shaped like an "L" (as in "Lucifer"). Also, found within the "L" is the letter "G", which could ultimately stand for the (false) "Gnosis" (knowledge) of Gnosticism (cf. the original Greek of 1 Timothy 6:20b), which the secret society (mistakenly) thinks can be found in Lucifer. The Antichrist will teach the ancient Gnostic lie that YHWH God is evil (Revelation 13:6, Daniel 11:36), and the ancient Gnostic lie that Christ isn't in the flesh (1 John 4:3). The Antichrist will also deny that Jesus is the Christ (1 John 2:22).

 

[Douggg]

Revelation 6
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...+6&version=KJV

12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together;
and every mountain and island were moved out of their places


A thick cosmic cloud of space dust between the Earth and the Sun in a collision course with the Earth can explain the celestial events of the 6 Th seal ....

During the day the thick cosmic space dust cloud between the Sun and the Earth will cause the Sun to became black as a sackcloth of hair.Like an eclipse.
the sun became black as sackcloth of hair,


At Night it will produce a Lunar eclipse
the moon became as blood;




The thick cloud of space dust colliding with the Earth will cause a very spectacular shooting stars observation ....

13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

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at the same time a shock front caused by the impact of the thick space dust cloud colliding with the Earth will cause the atmosphere of the Earth to roll like a scroll.

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Genesis 6
14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together

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Genesis 6
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...+6&version=KJV

12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together;
and every mountain and island were moved out of their places

The massive earthquake mentioned in verse 12 explain why

- every mountain and island were moved out of their places.-

The establishment of a One World Government.
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The massive worldwide Earthquake of the 6 th seal will destroy almost all the electric power supply of the cities Worldwide. Add to that the destruction of the infrastructures and water facilities in all the cities of the World.That will be during those years of crisis and rebuilt,under martial law that the One World Government will emerge.The World will be divided into 10 Kingdom administrated by 10 "Kings" under the authority of the Antichrist.

You understated Revelation 6. The Cosmos itself is going to be removed.

The ten kings are the EU, not global. The world will ultimately be dominated by the western quadrant, lead by the EU. The world itself will align countries into the four quadrants, north, south, east, west.

 

[Douggg]

What was Walter Cronkite's religious affiliation?

 

[Riberra]

From post #37
Note that in Revelation 16:20, the original Greek word (pheugo, G5343) translated as "fled away" can refer to a movement of only a few feet (Acts 27:30), which can happen to islands in a great earthquake (Revelation 16:18b).

Also, in Revelation 16:20, the original Greek word (heurisko, G2147) translated as "found" can be translated as "saw" (Matthew 2:11, Textus Receptus) or "perceived" (Acts 23:29), and so can refer to the peaks of every mountain range being so damaged by the future, unprecedented earthquake of Revelation 16:18b that the mountain ranges will no longer look like what they look like today.



Note that the day of the Lord can last longer than 24 hours. Are you thinking of 2 Peter 3:10-13?

If so, in the day of the Lord will occur the destruction of heaven (the 1st heaven: the sky/atmosphere) and the earth (its surface) at the great white throne judgment (Revelation 20:11, Revelation 21:1). And this will be followed by the creation of a new atmosphere and surface for the earth (2 Peter 3:13, Revelation 21:1) onto which New Jerusalem, God the Father's house (John 14:2, Revelation 21:2-3), will descend from the 3rd heaven (Revelation 21:2-3).

No,i was not thinking about 2 Peter 3:10-13.Which logically can only happen after the great white throne judgement...thus after the millennium.As you describe with great accuracy.

But the day of the Lord won't immediately bring the destruction of earth's atmosphere and surface. For the day of the Lord will begin at Jesus' (never fulfilled) 2nd coming (1 Corinthians 1:7-8) as a thief (2 Peter 3:10a, Revelation 16:15). And after his 2nd coming, he will establish his kingdom physically on the earth with the physically resurrected church for 1,000 years (Revelation 19:7 to 20:6, Revelation 5:10, Revelation 2:26-29, Psalms 66:3-4, Psalms 72:8-11, Zechariah 14:3-21).

I think that Revelation 16:15 through Revelation 20:3** will occurs in one Day (24 hours)Jesus Second Advent Matthew 24 :29-31

The starting of the Millennium countdown begin with Satan enchained for 1,000 years in the bottomless pit during that same Day.
Revelation 20:1-3

20 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

And after the 1,000 years, the Gog/Magog rebellion will occur (Revelation 20:7-10, Ezekiel chapters 38-39). And after its defeat, at least 7 more years will occur (Ezekiel 39:9b), before the earth's atmosphere and surface are destroyed at the great white throne judgment (Revelation 20:11). All of these events, from Jesus' 2nd coming to the great white throne judgment, will be part of the day of the Lord. For it is not a 24-hour day, but to God is like a 1,000-year "day" (2 Peter 3:8).

We are globally in agreement.
Given that the Day when Jesus returns (Rev 16:15 through Rev 20:3)** will also include Satan being chained in the bottomless pit for 1,000 years which will start the beginning of the Millennium .

**Note that Revelation 17 and Revelation 18 is only the description of the Great Babylon of the future Tribulation and its political and religious role of power and deception over the World during the Tribulation ...

Revelation 17:15,18

15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the harlot sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

 

[BABerean2]

An Explanation of the Sixth Seal -
Revelation 6:12-17;
I watched as the Lamb broke the sixth seal, – At this moment a coronal mass ejection will explode out from the sun. Isaiah 30:26, Malachi 4:1, Zephaniah 3:8, Jeremiah 23:19

There was a violent earthquake – The microwave effect of the short wave spectrum penetrates the earth’s crust, triggering worldwide earthquakes. Haggai 2:6, Deut. 32:22, Isaiah 26:18-20, Amos 8:8-9, Psalm 18:7

The sun turned black as a funeral pall – The approaching mass of the CME will obscure the sun. Joel 2:31, Amos 5:20

The moon became a red as blood – The superheated hydrogen plasma strikes the moon and causes a thermite reaction with the aluminium oxide moon dust. Joel 2:31

The stars in the sky fell like ripe figs – All our satellites crash to earth and its likely there will be a meteor shower. Isaiah 34:4, Isaiah 28:2

The sky vanished like a scroll being rolled up – Our magnetosphere and atmosphere facing the sun are pushed aside by this great pressure wave. Jeremiah 30:23, Isaiah 34:4, 2 Peter 3:10, Isaiah 51:6

Every mountain and island moved from their place – Tectonic plate movement caused by the microwave effect. Jeremiah 4:23-24, Habakkuk 3:6, Isaiah 13:13

Everyone from high to lowly hid themselves – people are terrified by what is coming and they scramble for cover. Ezekiel 7:15-19, Zeph. 1:3 & 11, Luke 21:26

They called out: Hide us from the wrath of the Lamb – People want to die rather than face this punishment. Isaiah 2:19, Isaiah 28:21-22, Jeremiah 25:38, Luke 23:30

For the great Day of the Lord has come and who can stand? Deuteronomy 32:22, Ezekiel 7:7, Zephaniah 1:14-18, Joel 1:15. This is the great Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath, prophesied over 100 times throughout the Bible, it is this terrible event that enables the establishment of a One World Government. But those who took heed of the warnings, took shelter and at the same time called to the Lord for protection, trusting to Him for salvation; they will ‘ pass safely through all that is to come’ Luke 21:36, 1 Peter 1:5, Psalm 68:1-3, Joel 3:16 and will receive the great blessings the Lord has for His righteous people.

We went through the thermite process several weeks ago and found it to be a dud in this case.

Thermite requires pure Iron Oxide and pure Aluminum.

It is a single replacement reaction where the Aluminum takes the place of the Iron in the reaction producing pure molten Iron and Aluminum oxide.

Moon rocks are silicate based and would act as a refractory material which would soak up the heat and stop the reaction, even if you had small amounts of the correct chemicals to start with.

Sorry, but your chemistry will not work.


You also need to do some research on the penetration of microwaves into rock. They would be absorbed by any rocks that contain water by producing heat in the water in the rock.


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[BABerean2]

What was Walter Cronkite's religious affiliation?

At the 7:00 minute mark, he said he would sit at the right hand of Satan.

 

[Riberra]

You understated Revelation 6. The Cosmos itself is going to be removed.

Not yet.... This will occurs only after the Great White Throne Judgment after the millennium...

Revelation 21

21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

Rev 21 (KJV)
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2021&version=KJV

Rev 20:11-15 (KJV)
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation 20&version=KJV

 

[keras]

We went through the thermite process several weeks ago and found it to be a dud in this case.

Thermite requires pure Iron Oxide and pure Aluminum.

It is a single replacement reaction where the Aluminum takes the place of the Iron in the reaction producing pure molten Iron and Aluminum oxide.

Moon rocks are silicate based and would act as a refractory material which would soak up the heat and stop the reaction, even if you had small amounts of the correct chemicals to start with.

Sorry, but your chemistry will not work.
You also need to do some research on the penetration of microwaves into rock. They would be absorbed by any rocks that contain water by producing heat in the water in the rock.
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Yes, you made your disbelief clear then. However that is your opinion, but not that of other people who say that a multi million ton mass of superheated hydrogen plasma hitting the moon, will surely produce an mighty red glow!

What no one seems to want to address, is the indisputable Prophetic words of Isaiah 30:26a... the sun will shine with seven times its normal brightness and the moon will shine as bright as the sun...
This can only be explained by a Coronal Mass Ejection and it is that which fits so many other prophesies of that terrible Day and the state of the earth afterward.
Did you look up my supporting verses? Perhaps you, as a Berean, would like to explain where Jeremiah 23:19-20 fits and what it is, but maybe it will be 'only in the latter days you will understand'.

 

[BABerean2]

Yes, you made your disbelief clear then. However that is your opinion, but not that of other people who say that a multi million ton mass of superheated hydrogen plasma hitting the moon, will surely produce an mighty red glow!

What no one seems to want to address, is the indisputable Prophetic words of Isaiah 30:26a... the sun will shine with seven times its normal brightness and the moon will shine as bright as the sun...
This can only be explained by a Coronal Mass Ejection and it is that which fits so many other prophesies of that terrible Day and the state of the earth afterward.
Did you look up my supporting verses? Perhaps you, as a Berean, would like to explain where Jeremiah 23:19-20 fits and what it is, but maybe it will be 'only in the latter days you will understand'.

Keras,

It was my understanding that you wanted to get your facts straight.

As someone with a science degree, I am speaking the truth to you on this point. It is not my opinion. It can be proven with mathematical certainty. Feel free to ask anyone you know, who has a chemistry background.

If you want to say the moon will glow if hit with a massive CME, that is fine.

However, claiming it will produce a thermite reaction is not the truth based on the laws of chemistry.

 

[Douggg]

At the 7:00 minute mark, he said he would sit at the right hand of Satan.

Yes, I heard that part which is why I wonder if he considered himself some denomination aside from the statement, such as Catholic, Methodist, Episcopalian, Baptist, etc. (not to be picking on any of those) not that any of those are supporting his statement.