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Discussion in 'Exposition & Bible Study' started by LittleLambofJesus, Feb 11, 2019 at 1:23 PM.

  1. LittleLambofJesus

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    I thought I might make a thread on the 7 bowls/vials shown in Revelation
    There appears to be some confusion on where the words should be "bowls" or "vials.
    And where would those be showning in the OT.

    BIBLICAL ANTHROPOLOGY: The Seven Bowls of Revelation 16

    Bowls were used by priests to bless and to curse. The curse (or imprecatory prayer) was inscribed inside the bowl and the one invoking the curse (offering the prayer) poured water from that bowl on the person, or on an effigy of the person, or on their property. The worst possible curse involved seven bowls or a seven-fold pouring. Cursing bowls, such as the one shown, date to 3000 B.C. and have been found in Egypt.

    One such Bible critic, names David G. says: “The King James Version says that the angels had seven golden VIALS full of the wrath of God. THE WORD VIALS IS A REALLY POOR TRANSLATION. They are really “Shallow, pan-like, golden bowls, or censers, such as were used in the temple to hold the fire when incense was burned.”
    Another Christian site comments: And golden vials - ”The word "vial" with us, denoting a small slender bottle with a narrow neck, evidently DOES NOT EXPRESS THE IDEA HERE. The article here referred to was used for offering incense, and MUST HAVE BEEN a vessel with a large open mouth. The word "bowl" or "goblet" would better express the idea,

    5357. phiale of uncertain affinity;
    Strong's Concordance
    phialé: a (shallow) bowl
    Definition: a (shallow) bowl
    Usage: a shallow and flat bowl.
    φιάλη, φιαλης, ἡ, from Homer down, the Sept. for מִזְרָק, a broad, shallow bowl, deep saucer (Dict. of Antiq. under the word Patera; B. D. American edition under the word, Vial): Revelation 5:8; Revelation 15:7; Revelation 16:1-4, 8, 10, 12, 17; Revelation 17:1; Revelation 21:9.
    Revelation 5:8
    And when it got<2986> the Scroll, the four living ones and the twenty-four Elders fall in sight of the Lambkin, each having a harp<2788>, and Golden Bowls being replete <1073> of incenses<2368>, which are being the prayers of the Saints/Holy ones

    Revelation 15:7
    And one out of the four living ones gives to the seven Messengers seven Golden Bowls being replete of the fury of the God, the One living into the ages of the ages.

    Revelation 17:1
    And came one out of the seven Messengers of the ones having the seven Bowls and He speaks with me saying
    "hither! I shall be showing to thee the judgement of the great Whore, the one sitting upon many waters

    Revelation 21:9
    And came one out of the seven Messengers of the ones having the seven bowls being replete of the seven blows<4127>, the last. And he speaks with me saying "Hither! I shall be showing to thee the Bride, the Wife<1135> of the Lambkin.

    ......................................REVELATION 16
    1 And I hear a great sound/voice out of the Sanctuary/Naos<3485> saying to the seven Messengers "be going!<5217> and be pouring out the seven Bowls of the fury of the God into the land.

    2 And came forth the First and pours out His Bowl into the land and became an evil sore<1668> and wicked<4190> upon the men, those having the mark<5480> of the Beast and those worshiping to the image of It.
    3 And the Second pours out His Bowl into the sea and it became blood as of dead one and every soul living died, those in the sea
    4 And the Third pours out His Bowl into the rivers<4215> and the springs<4077> of the waters <5204>and it became blood.
    5 And I hear the Messenger of the waters saying "just thou are, the one being and the one was, the Pious One, that these Thou judge
    6 That bloods of Saints and Prophets they pour out<1632> and blood thou give to them to be drinking which deserving they are being."
    7 And I hear of the Altar saying "yea Lord the God the Almighty, true and just the judgeings of Thee.
    8 And the fourth Messenger pours out His Bowl upon the sun and was given Him to scorch<2739> the men in fire.
    9 And the men are scorched great and they blaspheme<987> the Name of the God the One having the authority upon these blows<4127> and not the repent/reforum <3340> to give glory to Him.
    10 And the Fifth pours out His Bowl upon the throne of the Beast and became the Kingdom of it having been darkened and they gnawed<3145> their tongues out of the misery<4192>
    11 And they blaspheme the God of the heaven out of their miseries and out of their sores and not they repent/reform out of their works.
    12 And the Sixth pours out His Bowl on the river, the great Euphrates and is dried<3583> the water of it/m that may be being made ready of the from rising of sun<395><2246>.
    13 And I saw out of the mouth of the Dragon and out of the mouth of the Beast and out of the mough of the False Prophet three unclean<169> spirits as if frogs.
    14 For they are being spirits of demons doing signs which are going out upon the kings of the whole inhabited land to be together leading <4863> them into the Battle of the Day, the great, of the God the Almighty.
    15 Behold! I am coming<2064> as a thief<2812>. Happy/blessed the one watching<1127> and keeping<5083> his garments<2240> that no naked he may be walking about<4043> and they may be observing the indecency<808> of him.
    16 And they together led them into the place, the being called to Hebrew Armageddon.
    The Seventh Bowl of Wrath
    17 And the seventh Messenger pours out His Bowl upon the air<109> and came out a great voice out of the Sanctuary of the God saying "it is done!<"
    The seventh poured out his bowl into the air. A loud voice came forth out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, "It is done!<1096>"
    18 And there become lightnings and sounds/voice and thunders and a great earthquake became such as not became from of which men became upon the land.
    19 And became the great City into three parts and the cities of the Nations fall and Babylon the Great is remembered<3415> in view of the God to give to Her the drinkcup<4221> of the wine of the fury of the wrath of Him
    20 And every island fled and mountains not were found.
    21 And great hail<5454> as a talent weight<5006> is descending out of the heaven upon the men and they blaspheme the God out of the blow<4167> of the hail that great is being the blow of the hail that great is being the blow of it, tremendous<4970>!
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