The Sabbath day...? Rest...? Labor...? Work...? Intentions of the Sabbath day...

[Neogaia777]

The Sabbath day... Rest, labor and/or work...

Their should be no absolutes as to what you can and cannot do on the Sabbath Day, in the general sense, so as to take us back to "law"...

You should rest from what you would normally consider "labor" or laborious "work" that is for yourself or your own personal gain or benefit, but, again, no absolutes on this...

The Sabbath was made for those who have almost continual work that needs to be done all the time, that involves labor, to give them a day to stop and pause, and get some rest and relief from that, at least one day a week...

It was also meant to be a day where people could find joy in the things of God... And was "made for man" who normally has to labor "all the time", to be able to reflect on this, (the things of God), and find joy in it...

The Sabbath day is supposed to be a special day of the week set aside to be an enjoyable experience in the things of God... However, if one want's to say "wash the dishes" or do some laundry on the Sabbath or feed and water your animals, (that has to be done everyday), you can do those things...

But, you should not be "in a rush" or a "hurry" doing these things on that day, and you should not be seeing it on that as overly "laborious"... You should not be "constantly busy" and constantly occupied in and with these things on the Sabbath day though, like you normally would be or would do on the other days of the week...

It is meant to enjoying the things in or with or about God on that day, you can even do some kinds of "spiritual" work like witnessing, if you "enjoy" that, and it is restful and peaceful for you and it is not seen as a "labor" or a duty, something that you "have to", or "must do", on that day...

You should make as little plans as possible on, and for that day, also...

The Pharisees greatly perverted the Sabbath with all kinds of ridiculous rules and laws, that kept the purity of the intentions of the Sabbath day way off base from what it was meant to be...

So, what about people who's weekly job is as a priest or pastor, or religious teacher/person...? They just need to take things easy on that day and light, and not do anything that they would view as "labor" or highly laborious or tiring, but should enjoy that day along with the rest of the people who normally work, and have "real jobs" (sorry, don't know how else to put it)...

Comments...?

God Bless!

 

[Sabertooth]

I see it as a physical foreshadowing of Hebrews 4:9-11,

"There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his. Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest,..." NIV

I believe that rest to be in the same Spirit as when Jesus said,

"Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light." Matthew 11:28-30 NKJV

 

[Dave-W]

It is also a memorial of creation.

"For in six days did the Lord make the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh He rested."

 

[ToBeLoved]

I think God wanted them to realize that there needs to be time for both the physical things and the spiritual things. And that we sometimes need to change focus from merely surviving, to really living.

 

[bling]

Paul said “Sabbaths” and not all Sabbaths except the Saturday Sabbath. There were gentile new converts in the group the letter was addressed and this was to help them with Judean teaching “Christians”?

Paul is addressing a very real practical problem in the Church in Colossian and Romans that was between the Jews and the Gentiles. The Jewish Christians would have grown up as Jews keeping the Sabbath as best they could, so they would have just worked with other Jews or had some breaks given by their employer or Master that might have taken generations of good work to get. The Gentile Christians grow up not keeping the Sabbath and so they worked all their lives on Saturday, so they might be fired or beaten, if they did not work on the Sabbath. The “Sabbath Rest” would have been a huge obstacle for Gentile like circumcision was a huge unnecessary obstacle for gentiles.

Are we saying Paul was teaching the Gentiles; that they had to start keeping the Sabbath to be a Christian, because I do not hear that in any sermons Paul gave and that would have been a huge hurdle for first century gentiles?

For the Jews the weekly Sabbath had lots of implications including a reminder, but today Christians have a constant reminder and like the priest are involved in daily constant worship every day.

In addition we might want to address a few questions:


Are Christians to be like any old tribe of Israel or are we to be like the priests?

It would seem we are already priests:


*But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God* - (1 Peter 2:9).

Did the priest honor the Sabbath rest by not working, yet doing a ton of stuff that was “worship”, with worship to God never being “work”?

If righteous worship is in contrast to vain worship, thus offering up to God obedience to God’s commands, can Christian 24/7 be doing stuff in obedience to God and offer that up as worship?

Since everything we do is done to the glory of God, then everything we do is done in worship to God.


*So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God.* - (1 Cor 10:31).

The Early Jewish scholars talk about an age of Jubilee (not just a Sabbath year), but a dispensation age of Sabbath days, so is that what we are in?

Christ is the fulfillment of Jewish customs and laws, so through our rest in Christ we are already participating in this “dispensation age.”


*Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.* - (Matt 5:17).

 

[Neogaia777]

The Sabbath day... Rest, labor and/or work...

Their should be no absolutes as to what you can and cannot do on the Sabbath Day, in the general sense, so as to take us back to "law"...

You should rest from what you would normally consider "labor" or laborious "work" that is for yourself or your own personal gain or benefit, but, again, no absolutes on this...

The Sabbath was made for those who have almost continual work that needs to be done all the time, that involves labor, to give them a day to stop and pause, and get some rest and relief from that, at least one day a week...

It was also meant to be a day where people could find joy in the things of God... And was "made for man" who normally has to labor "all the time", to be able to reflect on this, (the things of God), and find joy in it...

The Sabbath day is supposed to be a special day of the week set aside to be an enjoyable experience in the things of God... However, if one want's to say "wash the dishes" or do some laundry on the Sabbath or feed and water your animals, (that has to be done everyday), you can do those things...

But, you should not be "in a rush" or a "hurry" doing these things on that day, and you should not be seeing it on that as overly "laborious"... You should not be "constantly busy" and constantly occupied in and with these things on the Sabbath day though, like you normally would be or would do on the other days of the week...

It is meant to enjoying the things in or with or about God on that day, you can even do some kinds of "spiritual" work like witnessing, if you "enjoy" that, and it is restful and peaceful for you and it is not seen as a "labor" or a duty, something that you "have to", or "must do", on that day...

You should make as little plans as possible on, and for that day, also...

The Pharisees greatly perverted the Sabbath with all kinds of ridiculous rules and laws, that kept the purity of the intentions of the Sabbath day way off base from what it was meant to be...

So, what about people who's weekly job is as a priest or pastor, or religious teacher/person...? They just need to take things easy on that day and light, and not do anything that they would view as "labor" or highly laborious or tiring, but should enjoy that day along with the rest of the people who normally work, and have "real jobs" (sorry, don't know how else to put it)...

Comments...?

God Bless!

If you want to wash your car, clean out your garage, work on building a treehouse for your kids, on the Sabbath, that would be OK, just as long as your not rushing or in a hurry, or have a thousand different things planned on the Sabbath day, to have every moment on that day meticulously planned and pre-planned out... You need to just take things "slower" than you normally would on that day, so you can self-reflect and reflect on the things of God, on at least, that day...

My point is you also don't have to "studiously", "dutifully", "strenously" have 100 strictly spiritual things, or any other things like that, but spiritual things also, only, "planned" on that day either... But you might want to (relaxingly) do a "few" (of them) and that's great if you do, but, if you really don't in your heart, then there is no point in doing them anyway... God wants you to have the desire to, but not if it's not from the restful desire in your heart for it/them (the things of him)...

God Bless!

 

[Wordkeeper]

The Sabbath day... Rest, labor and/or work...

Their should be no absolutes as to what you can and cannot do on the Sabbath Day, in the general sense, so as to take us back to "law"...

You should rest from what you would normally consider "labor" or laborious "work" that is for yourself or your own personal gain or benefit, but, again, no absolutes on this...

The Sabbath was made for those who have almost continual work that needs to be done all the time, that involves labor, to give them a day to stop and pause, and get some rest and relief from that, at least one day a week...

It was also meant to be a day where people could find joy in the things of God... And was "made for man" who normally has to labor "all the time", to be able to reflect on this, (the things of God), and find joy in it...

The Sabbath day is supposed to be a special day of the week set aside to be an enjoyable experience in the things of God... However, if one want's to say "wash the dishes" or do some laundry on the Sabbath or feed and water your animals, (that has to be done everyday), you can do those things...

But, you should not be "in a rush" or a "hurry" doing these things on that day, and you should not be seeing it on that as overly "laborious"... You should not be "constantly busy" and constantly occupied in and with these things on the Sabbath day though, like you normally would be or would do on the other days of the week...

It is meant to enjoying the things in or with or about God on that day, you can even do some kinds of "spiritual" work like witnessing, if you "enjoy" that, and it is restful and peaceful for you and it is not seen as a "labor" or a duty, something that you "have to", or "must do", on that day...

You should make as little plans as possible on, and for that day, also...

The Pharisees greatly perverted the Sabbath with all kinds of ridiculous rules and laws, that kept the purity of the intentions of the Sabbath day way off base from what it was meant to be...

So, what about people who's weekly job is as a priest or pastor, or religious teacher/person...? They just need to take things easy on that day and light, and not do anything that they would view as "labor" or highly laborious or tiring, but should enjoy that day along with the rest of the people who normally work, and have "real jobs" (sorry, don't know how else to put it)...

Comments...?

God Bless!

Apparently resting on the Sabbath was compulsory.

However, Jesus noted that there were exceptions to the rule.

Matthew 12
3But He said to them, “Have you not read what David did when he became hungry, he and his companions, 4how he entered the house of God, and they ate the consecrated bread, which was not lawful for him to eat nor for those with him, but for the priests alone? 5“Or have you not read in the Law, that on the Sabbath the priests in the temple break the Sabbath and are innocent? 6“But I say to you that something greater than the temple is here. 7“But if you had known what this means, ‘I DESIRE COMPASSION, AND NOT A SACRIFICE,’ you would not have condemned the innocent.

8“For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.”

9Departing from there, He went into their synagogue. 10And a man was there whose hand was withered. And they questioned Jesus, asking, “Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?”—so that they might accuse Him. 11And He said to them, “What man is there among you who has a sheep, and if it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will he not take hold of it and lift it out?

We see that the Pharisees knew the law could not be followed perfectly without contradicting the working of the priests on the Sabbath, which was also compulsory.

The observance was subject to interpretation, was not an absolute observance. The criterion was: Follow that which was for the good of the people. Since the working of the priests was a better action, that was what was followed. Since there was no hard and fast way to observe law, a leader could use the law to oppress people, which was what was being done to Jesus.

Which raises the question: Are some of the laws without use?

Some laws control morality, so they build stable societies.

Some laws encourage separation from the pagan nations, so they preserve the purity of Israel.

But laws like the Sabbath law seem to have no utility value.

This is where Paul sheds some light on the issue. He said that Israel has no advantage as far as morality or idol worship was concerned. Other nations had moral laws and controls against idol worship (ethics, rules that guarded against covetousness and greed, which are idols). There was a privilege however that Israel was given, the privilege of being oracle keepers:

Romans 3
1Then what advantage has the Jew? Or what is the benefit of circumcision? 2Great in every respect. First of all, that they were entrusted with the oracles of God.

Acts 7
"This is the one who was in the congregation in the wilderness together with the angel who was speaking to him on Mount Sinai, and who was with our fathers; and he received living oracles to pass on to you.

Israel had been given life giving words in their Law! They were supposed to be a light to the pagan nations in observing Torah. When people looked at Torah being followed, they would receive enlightenment, hope. When they saw Sabbath observance and studied the information in Scripture, they would know:

God rested after working.

Israel rested from gathering manna.

The Genesis account follows the same format of the Ancient Near East narrative of the building of a temple. Any ANE reader would understand it just as that. The last step is when the image of the deity in whose honour the temple has been built is installed in the temple. God took up residence in His Temple! He didn't rest, why would God need rest? This situation is like when someone builds a custom car, and when it is complete, he sits in it and uses it!


The Sabbath, then, is a revelation that God has created a state to which men have to enter in order to have a purposeful life:


Hebrews 4
1Therefore, let us fear if, while a promise remains of entering His rest, any one of you may seem to have come short of it. 2For indeed we have had good news preached to us, just as they also; but the word they heard did not profit them, because it was not united by faith in those who heard.
3For we who have believed enter that rest, just as He has said,
“AS I SWORE IN MY WRATH,
THEY SHALL NOT ENTER MY REST,”
although His works were finished from the foundation of the world.

4For He has said somewhere concerning the seventh day: “AND GOD RESTED ON THE SEVENTH DAY FROM ALL HIS WORKS”; 5and again in this passage, “THEY SHALL NOT ENTER MY REST.” 6Therefore, since it remains for some to enter it, and those who formerly had good news preached to them failed to enter because of disobedience,

7He again fixes a certain day, “Today,” saying through David after so long a time just as has been said before,
“TODAY IF YOU HEAR HIS VOICE,
DO NOT HARDEN YOUR HEARTS.”

8For if Joshua had given them rest, He would not have spoken of another day after that. 9So there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God. 10For the one who has entered His rest has himself also rested from his works, as God did from His. 11Therefore let us be diligent to enter that rest, so that no one will fall, through following the same example of disobedience.

See that sequence here:

Exodus 16
16“This is what the LORD has commanded, ‘Gather of it every man as much as he should eat; you shall take an omer apiece according to the number of persons each of you has in his tent.’” 17The sons of Israel did so, and some gathered much and some little. 18When they measured it with an omer, he who had gathered much had no excess, and he who had gathered little had no lack; every man gathered as much as he should eat. 19Moses said to them, “Let no man leave any of it until morning.” 20But they did not listen to Moses, and some left part of it until morning, and it bred worms and became foul; and Moses was angry with them. 21They gathered it morning by morning, every man as much as he should eat; but when the sun grew hot, it would melt.

22Now on the sixth day they gathered twice as much bread, two omers for each one. When all the leaders of the congregation came and told Moses, 23then he said to them, “This is what the LORD meant: Tomorrow is a sabbath observance, a holy sabbath to the LORD. Bake what you will bake and boil what you will boil, and all that is left over put aside to be kept until morning.” 24So they put it aside until morning, as Moses had ordered, and it did not become foul nor was there any worm in it. 25Moses said, “Eat it today, for today is a sabbath to the LORD; today you will not find it in the field. 26“Six days you shall gather it, but on the seventh day, the sabbath, there will be none.”

The people believed and they received bread. They disbelieved and lost bread.

This is the lesson:

Have faith and you will be justified, sancitifed and glorified.


Disbelieve, and you will never enter rest, God's purpose for your life.

 

[Sabertooth]

While we are still called to honor God's Law, it is incumbent on us that we should correctly discern the Spirit of the Law (and not just the letter).

"And we have such trust through Christ toward God. Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think of anything as being from ourselves, but our sufficiency is from God, who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life." 2 Corinthians 3:4-6 NKJV

 

[Neogaia777]

re-posting...

 

[BobRyan]

The Sabbath day... Rest, labor and/or work...

Their should be no absolutes as to what you can and cannot do on the Sabbath Day, in the general sense, so as to take us back to "law"...

Hebrews 8:6-10 says that the LAW of God is written on the heart of Christians under the New Covenant - do you accept Hebrews 8?

Revelation 14:12 says the saints 'KEEP the commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus" - do you accept Revelation 14:12?

Ephesians 6:2 says we are to honor our parents because the fifth commandment "is the FIRST commandment with a promise" -- in that still valid - unit of TEN. Are you ok with Paul's statement which clearly pulls in the context of the TEN Commandments for Christians?

1 Cor 7:19 says that ceremonial law does not matter but "what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of God" - are you good with that?

Mark 7:6-13 Christ makes a strong statement about religious efforts made to downsize/tweak one of the Ten Commandments. In your view is it right to follow Christ's teaching on that point?

Mark 2:27 Sabbath "made for mankind" speaks also of the making OF mankind and we see BOTH - in Genesis 1-2. Made for mankind - means it is made as a blessing for us. A benefit.

We could say the same about marriage, but that does not mean that marriage laws are dead. Rather they benefit mankind -- though mankind seeks to redefine and delete them.

 

[Neogaia777]

Hebrews 8:6-10 says that the LAW of God is written on the heart of Christians under the New Covenant - do you accept Hebrews 8?

Revelation 14:12 says the saints 'KEEP the commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus" - do you accept Revelation 14:12?

Ephesians 6:2 says we are to honor our parents because the fifth commandment "is the FIRST commandment with a promise" -- in that still valid - unit of TEN. Are you ok with Paul's statement which clearly pulls in the context of the TEN Commandments for Christians?

1 Cor 7:19 says that ceremonial law does not matter but "what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of God" - are you good with that?

Mark 7:6-13 Christ makes a strong statement about religious efforts made to downsize/tweak one of the Ten Commandments. In your view is it right to follow Christ's teaching on that point?

Mark 2:27 Sabbath "made for mankind" speaks also of the making OF mankind and we see BOTH - in Genesis 1-2. Made for mankind - means it is made as a blessing for us. A benefit.

We could say the same about marriage, but that does not mean that marriage laws are dead. Rather they benefit mankind -- though mankind seeks to redefine and delete them.

Commandments...? Which ones...?

The "spirit" or nature or deciphering the original intent and purposes of the commandments, and following that...? Or the actual written words or the strict letter of the commandments or law...

Also, The ten commandments...?, all of the whole of the 613-14 commandments...? or the two Jesus spoke of...?

See posts in this thread: The "spirit" of the Law, and the "letter" of the Law...

God Bless!

 

[BobRyan]

Commandments...? Which ones...?

In which commandment unit do we find the Ephesians 6:2 statement that the 5th commandment is the "First commandment with a promise"??

It is not true in Exodus.

It is not true in Genesis.

It is only true in the unit of TEN that this is the "first commandment with a promise"

The "spirit" or nature or deciphering the original intent and purposes of the commandments, and following that...? Or the actual written words or the strict letter of the commandments or law...

Also, The ten commandments...?, all of the whole of the 613-14 commandments...? or the two Jesus spoke of...?

See posts in this thread: The "spirit" of the Law, and the "letter" of the Law...

God Bless!

Jesus quote Lev 19:18 "Love our neighbor as yourself" and Deut 6:5 "Love God with all your heart" in Matthew 22 and the Jews agreed with them - that these OT commands where the greatest.

But nobody argues that these commandments deleted the command to 'Not take God's name in vain" Exodus 20:7 that we see not being quoted even once in the NT.

They did not delete it in the OT or the NT.

And Christ makes the point that Love for God - requires that we 'KEEP God's Commandments"

Isaiah 66:23 says that from "Sabbath to Sabbath" - ALL MANKIND for all eternity will come before God to worship.

Mark 7:6-13 says it is wrong to try and downsize even one of the Commandments.

BTW - 1050 commands in the NT.

 

[Neogaia777]

In which commandment unit do we find the Ephesians 6:2 statement that the 5th commandment is the "First commandment with a promise"??

It is not true in Exodus.

It is not true in Genesis.

It is only true in the unit of TEN that this is the "first commandment with a promise"

To honor your mother and father, you must love them... Right...?

Jesus quote Lev 19:18 "Love our neighbor as yourself" and Deut 6:5 "Love God with all your heart" in Matthew 22 and the Jews agreed with them - that these OT commands where the greatest.

But nobody argues that these commandments deleted the command to 'Not take God's name in vain" Exodus 20:7 that we see not being quoted even once in the NT.

They did not delete it in the OT or the NT.

And Christ makes the point that Love for God - requires that we 'KEEP God's Commandments"

Isaiah 66:23 says that from "Sabbath to Sabbath" - ALL MANKIND for all eternity will come before God to worship.

Mark 7:6-13 says it is wrong to try and downsize even one of the Commandments.

BTW - 1050 commands in the NT.

The letter of the law(s) of the commandments of the "spirit" of them, and are they different...?

I agree Love fulfills the law, at least the ten commandments anyway...

Really, there are 1050 commands in the NT...? I didn't know that, could you show me some of some on this, if you would...? I'm curious...? I know of a few, but not 1050...?

Thanks for your reply,

God Bless!

 

[BobRyan]

To honor your mother and father, you must love them... Right...?

But one could say the same thing of the Sabbath - "To Love God you must keep His Commandments" and the Sabbath is one of them.

!John 5:2-4
2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and keep His commandments. 3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome. 4 For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith.

The question is how much "downsizing" can we get by with when it comes to the "Commandments of God"?

Revelation 14:12 "The saints KEEP the Commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus"

Mark 7:6-13
6 He answered and said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:

‘This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
7 And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’
8 For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men —the washing of pitchers and cups, and many other such things you do.”
9 He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition. 10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death.’ 11 But you say, ‘If a man says to his father or mother, “Whatever profit you might have received from me is Corban”—’ (that is, a gift to God), 12 then you no longer let him do anything for his father or his mother, 13 making the word of God of no effect through your tradition which you have handed down. And many such things you do.”


I agree Love fulfills the law, at least the ten commandments anyway...Thus - Love does not dishonor parents or break the Sabbath

"Love Me and KEEP My Commandments" Exodus 20:6 stated right in the TEN Commandments themselves.

1050 new Testament Commandments
-- 1,050 New Testament Commands | Christian Assemblies International

"As if someone were in charge of limiting what number of commandments God can have"??

 

[1John2:4]

The Sabbath day... Rest, labor and/or work...

Their should be no absolutes as to what you can and cannot do on the Sabbath Day, in the general sense, so as to take us back to "law"...

You should rest from what you would normally consider "labor" or laborious "work" that is for yourself or your own personal gain or benefit, but, again, no absolutes on this...

The Sabbath was made for those who have almost continual work that needs to be done all the time, that involves labor, to give them a day to stop and pause, and get some rest and relief from that, at least one day a week...

It was also meant to be a day where people could find joy in the things of God... And was "made for man" who normally has to labor "all the time", to be able to reflect on this, (the things of God), and find joy in it...

The Sabbath day is supposed to be a special day of the week set aside to be an enjoyable experience in the things of God... However, if one want's to say "wash the dishes" or do some laundry on the Sabbath or feed and water your animals, (that has to be done everyday), you can do those things...

But, you should not be "in a rush" or a "hurry" doing these things on that day, and you should not be seeing it on that as overly "laborious"... You should not be "constantly busy" and constantly occupied in and with these things on the Sabbath day though, like you normally would be or would do on the other days of the week...

It is meant to enjoying the things in or with or about God on that day, you can even do some kinds of "spiritual" work like witnessing, if you "enjoy" that, and it is restful and peaceful for you and it is not seen as a "labor" or a duty, something that you "have to", or "must do", on that day...

You should make as little plans as possible on, and for that day, also...

The Pharisees greatly perverted the Sabbath with all kinds of ridiculous rules and laws, that kept the purity of the intentions of the Sabbath day way off base from what it was meant to be...

So, what about people who's weekly job is as a priest or pastor, or religious teacher/person...? They just need to take things easy on that day and light, and not do anything that they would view as "labor" or highly laborious or tiring, but should enjoy that day along with the rest of the people who normally work, and have "real jobs" (sorry, don't know how else to put it)...

Comments...?

God Bless!

Thanks I agree and it's a celebration!! The Jews sing a song about bringing in the bride groom, let us not forget The Sabbath is a day, set aside so that we do not have to be in the bondage of work or slavery. We have been set free, one day a week we can enter into His rest! Shabbat shalom brothers and sisters

 

[Grandpa2390]

It is also a memorial of creation.

"For in six days did the Lord make the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh He rested."

The reason why the sabbath doesn't apply to Christians, is because it was also a memorial of paradise lost. We see this in the midst of the Ten Commandments. It served as a continual reminder to the Jews of the lost and the need to have mercy and grace to avoid judgment. It didn't give that escape. It was a day to reflect on how they were keeping the law.

But with Christ...

We don't keep the sabbath. The sabbath is on the 7th day. We keep the first day

 

[Sabertooth]

 

[BobRyan]

The reason why the sabbath doesn't apply to Christians, is because it was also a memorial of paradise lost.

Does the Bible ever call the Bible Sabbath "a memorial of sin" or "A memorial of being case out of the garden"?

In fact there is no evidence at all that they were cast out "on a Sabbath"

We see this in the midst of the Ten Commandments. It served as a continual reminder to the Jews of the lost and the need to have mercy and grace to avoid judgment.

That could best be said about 'do not covet' - since "thought crimes" are so difficult to control


It didn't give that escape. It was a day to reflect on how they were keeping the law.

We don't keep the sabbath. The sabbath is on the 7th day. We keep the first day

That is true for many people - but not all Christians make that choice against the Bible Sabbath.

Revelation 14:12

Mark 7:6-13

1 John 5:2-3

 

[JackRT]

As for the intention behind the commandment on the Sabbath day we can examine each of the three versions of the ten commandments found in scripture.

Exodus 34:21 “Six days you shall labor, but on the seventh day you shall rest; even during the plowing season and harvest you must rest.

In this, the oldest version, no specific reason is given.

Exodus 20:8 Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. 9 Six days you shall labour and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your manservant or maidservant, nor your animals, nor the alien within your gates. 11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.


Here a clear reason is given in verse 11.

Deuteronomy 5:12 Observe the Sabbath day by keeping it holy, as the LORD your God has commanded you. 13 Six days you shall labour and do all your work, 14 but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your manservant or maidservant, nor your ox, your donkey or any of your animals, nor the alien within your gates, so that your manservant and maidservant may rest, as you do. 15 Remember that you were slaves in Egypt and that the LORD your God brought you out of there with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm. Therefore the LORD your God has commanded you to observe the Sabbath day.

In this version, written two to three hundred years later, a completely different reason is given. The reason for the discrepancy would seem to be that the seven day creation story had not yet been invented until after Exodus 34 and Exodus 20 were written.

 

[1John2:4]

As for the intention behind the commandment on the Sabbath day we can examine each of the three versions of the ten commandments found in scripture.

Exodus 34:21 “Six days you shall labor, but on the seventh day you shall rest; even during the plowing season and harvest you must rest.

In this, the oldest version, no specific reason is given.

Exodus 20:8 Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. 9 Six days you shall labour and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your manservant or maidservant, nor your animals, nor the alien within your gates. 11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.


Here a clear reason is given in verse 11.

Deuteronomy 5:12 Observe the Sabbath day by keeping it holy, as the LORD your God has commanded you. 13 Six days you shall labour and do all your work, 14 but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your manservant or maidservant, nor your ox, your donkey or any of your animals, nor the alien within your gates, so that your manservant and maidservant may rest, as you do. 15 Remember that you were slaves in Egypt and that the LORD your God brought you out of there with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm. Therefore the LORD your God has commanded you to observe the Sabbath day.

In this version, written two to three hundred years later, a completely different reason is given. The reason for the discrepancy would seem to be that the seven day creation story had not yet been invented until after Exodus 34 and Exodus 20 were written.

It's not a discrepancy, it's not contrary it's in addition to. When God builds upon certain building blocks He offers more fullfillment to that concept. You shall do no work, it was instituted at creation, because He is the same God from creation that lead them out of the bondage of slavery. It is so amazing how God does this in His word. His Sabbath His Moedim they all are woven throughout the entire Bible. Names of tribes, plants, kings, they all have to do with the telling of the story, of His plan of salvation!