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The Russification of the Republican Party

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by wing2000, Dec 6, 2019.

  1. wing2000

    wing2000 E pluribus unum Supporter

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    A central part of the Republican talking points in defense of Trump is blaming Ukraine for interfering n the 2016 US elections. How far will the Republicans go in supporting Putin's positions? Is this the same party of Ronald Reagan?

    As this article highlights:

    Sen McConnel's refusal to take up "the DETER Act, a bipartisan bill that would impose sanctions on Russia if it interferes again in 2020"

    Sen Richard Burr: “The president can say that they [Ukraine] meddled because they had a preference, the elected officials,”

    Rep Devin Nunes repeated the mantra during the Intelligence committee hearings to which Fiona Hill characterized as “a fictional narrative that has been perpetrated and propagated by the Russian security services themselves.”

    ...and then there is this:

    Tucker Carlson took these arguments to new heights on his show Monday night, not only minimizing Russian involvement in 2016 but questioning why the U.S. was opposing its incursion into Ukraine at all. “I think we should probably take the side of Russia if we have to choose between Russia and Ukraine,” Carlson insisted.

    The Russification of the Republican Party
     
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  2. FireDragon76

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    It's aspirational on their part. Putin and the American right also use traditional cultural symbols to manipulate their base, so they share a common modus operandi.
     
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  3. usexpat97

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    Maybe we could lease cruise ships and ship them all to Russia, since that's the kind of life they want so badly. They'll be far away from the evil Mexicans, China's already got a wall built, and at the rate they're driving, Russia will be a tropical paradise before too long. Everybody's happy.
     
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  4. Hank77

    Hank77 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Yike! or has he just become a Shock Jock?
     
  5. HTacianas

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    I was reading the National Review and it said something entirely different altogether.
     
  6. hislegacy

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    it is the new conspiracy theory.
     
  7. Brian Mcnamee

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    Lets see Hilary illegally was selling Uranium to the Russians then scrubbed her server and the Russian were colluding with Trump to get him in? Russia is for NWO globalism and behind the UN agenda 21 and the UN earth charter was written by Gorbechov. The rich elites here finance both US and USSR with a goal on global government. Hillary is a CFR NWO stooge and much more in line with the agenda that Trump but perhaps he is in it too. Perhaps he is in place to take the blame when the inevitable global financial collapse takes place and the blame will go to a Christian, Capitalist, Nationalist and the next system will be global. The current events are prophetically significant as we are seeing the 7 year tribulation coming in the near future.
     
  8. hislegacy

    hislegacy This is me.

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    what article? Link?
     
  9. HTacianas

    HTacianas Well-Known Member

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    The Speaker of the House stood up and accused the President of the United States of being blackmailed by Vladimir Putin. That is the mother of all conspiracy theories.

    But if we use The Atlantic and National Review as sources of our information we'll be stuck in an endless loop.
     
  10. wing2000

    wing2000 E pluribus unum Supporter

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    ...and share?
     
  11. wing2000

    wing2000 E pluribus unum Supporter

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    ...scroll to the bottom of the first post.
     
  12. wing2000

    wing2000 E pluribus unum Supporter

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    The Atlantic article quotes individuals --easily verifiable.
     
  13. HTacianas

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    So does National Review.
     
  14. FireDragon76

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    They'ld fit right in considering Russia has it's own equivalent of the "deplorable", the bydlo. Just swap out those red caps for fake Adidas track suits.
     
  15. wing2000

    wing2000 E pluribus unum Supporter

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    ...which you have yet to share.
     
  16. cow451

    cow451 The Most Interesting Poster in the Forum Supporter

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    Comrades! Russia loves American friends. American friends should vote for GOP (Grand Old Politburo) next year! Economy good. Iran bad. Saudi Arabia good. Deep State bad. Ukraine bad.

    Vote Presidential Trump 2020!
    Make America Goodski Again!
     
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  17. LoveOurNeighbor

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    Sure seems like they have been infiltrated by agents..doesn't resemble the party of Reagan or Lincoln
     
  18. wing2000

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    ...not so much infiltrated as the President and his allies openly supporting Russia's efforts to undermine Americans' trust in their government for their own political advantage. Least we forgot, the POTUS stood on a platform with Putin in Europe and openly questioned the information provided by our very own government. Trump is loyal to one entity: Himself.

    And now we see members of Reagan's party participating in the same type of behavior: Flatly refuting information from our own State Department, NSC and Intelligence communities.
     
  19. wing2000

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    The President's words have consequences:

    The second annual Reagan National Defense Survey, completed in late October, found nearly half of armed services households questioned, 46%, said they viewed Russia as ally.

    Overall, the survey found 28% of Americans identified Russia as an ally, up from 19% the previous year.

    Generally, the pollsters found the positive views of Russia seemed to be "predominantly driven by Republicans who have responded to positive cues from [U.S.] President [Donald] Trump about Russia," according to an executive summary accompanying the results.

    While a majority, 71% of all Americans and 53% of military households, still views Russia as an enemy, the spike in pro-Russian sentiment has defense officials concerned.

    "There is an effort, on the part of Russia, to flood the media with disinformation to sow doubt and confusion," Defense Department spokesperson Lieutenant Colonel Carla Gleason told VOA.

    "This is not only through discordant and inflammatory dialogue but through false narratives designed to illicit sympathetic views," she said, adding, "we are actively working to expose and counter Russian disinformation whenever possible."


    Pentagon Concerned Russia Cultivating Sympathy Among US Troops
     
  20. whatbogsends

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    We've always been allies with Eastasia.
    We've always been at war with Eurasia.
     
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