The Rise of Trump- Proof that Atheists are Winning

[1stcenturylady]

There are some good third party candidates out there.... And its time to look at a solid conservative third party as a replacement for the republicans...
And actually trump has gotten quite a lot done so far...three wars in 90 days (bombing strikes in both Syria and Afghanistan and a potential conflict Korea) that's got to be a new record...
And where are all the anti war anti globalist phonies who propelled trump to the top? That's right, they're all suddenly pro- war, pro foreign entanglement....suddenly globalism is a good thing...
That's the problem with a cult...you go wherever the cult leader takes you...

That makes your vote not count as no third party would ever get nominated. I'm not going to throw away my vote.

 

[buzuxi02]

There are some good third party candidates out there.... And its time to look at a solid conservative third party as a replacement for the republicans...
And actually trump has gotten quite a lot done so far...three wars in 90 days (bombing strikes in both Syria and Afghanistan and a potential conflict Korea) that's got to be a new record...
And where are all the anti war anti globalist phonies who propelled trump to the top? That's right, they're all suddenly pro- war, pro foreign entanglement....suddenly globalism is a good thing...
That's the problem with a cult...you go wherever the cult leader takes you...

I voted for Trump soley because he was the only one wanting peace with Putin and ending foreign adventures. I'm angry at his flip flop. And so are most of his original supporters who voted him in for those reasons.
NOTICE how his rating's have gone up not down since those bombings. Notice how the final 20 companies to build the wall have been chosen yet the media is more hush about this now because the american media loves war. In other words this so called Christian country likes him more now that he is spreading imperialism and hated him more when he was saying No to imperialism. His supporters are more critical of him, many have abandoned him. This is obvious since I was the one who was accused of being a Putin agent, that I was evil for wanting the hegemon to leave Ukraine, I was evil because I believed regime change is idiotic. Now that regime change and global imperialism is back on the table his approval ratings have jumped by 15% in a few days even in Canada and Europe they like him more now.

 

[Hank77]

So, you think this post is a winner?

Check this out:

Christian Conservatives, Be Assured That President Hillary Clinton Will Declare War on You | The Stream

Then, thank God that Trump, for all his faults, was elected as leader of the USA.

I read this article and read the court's decision. I also read the Act itself. I'm not saying I like it but let me point some things out to you that are in this article.

Last week, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that pro-life pregnancy centers are required to promote abortion, meaning, that if a pregnant woman comes to them not knowing what to do about her pregnancy, along with counseling her about adoption or keeping her own baby, they must also refer her to a local abortion clinic.
Yes, under the California Reproductive Freedom, Accountability, Comprehensive Care, and Transparency Act, this is the law; the Ninth Circuit upheld it.

First I must say that I find it hard to take seriously a Christian article that starts right out stating a lie. There is nothing in this bill that says that they must refer her to a local abortion clinic. They are not be required to even mention abortion to a women. However, they must post, on an 8x11 sheet of paper, a statement that says "California has public programs that provide immediate free or low-cost access to comprehensive family planning services (including all FDA-approved methods of contraception), prenatal care, and abortion for eligible women. To determine whether you qualify, contact the county social services office at [insert the telephone number]." All clinics that provide women's medical services are required to do so.

And note also the extreme hypocrisy of this ruling, since abortion clinics are not required to refer their clients to local pro-life pregnancy centers. They are not even required to show the mother an ultrasound of her baby, since that would allegedly infringe on her rights.

This is true. However, they are required to post the exact same notice.

This brings me to a major bill in California, SB 1146 which “would officially label private Christian colleges with Christian values, morality, and even dorm policies which conflict with the LGBT agenda as ‘discriminatory,’ and make the colleges liable to state (and federal) lawsuits as well as vicious attacks by activists. . . . The goal is to make Christian colleges surrender their belief systems and force the LGBT agenda onto every facet of education. California is the first state in the US to attempt this outrageous action. If it passes there, it will surely spread to other states.”

This is not quite accurate either. What the bill did contain was wording that would make it easier for LGBT students who believed they were being discriminated against to file lawsuits. The senator who wrote the bill withdrew this wording from the bill when Christians put enough pressure on the state representatives and there were even Democrat representatives that were against it. He decided that maybe he wasn't so sure that they were being discriminated against when they broke a college's rules. I'm sure that the college's have moral code rules that effect both heterosexual students as well as LGBT students. He didn't have documentation that the LGBT students were being discriminated against when they were punished for breaking the rules.

 

[Curtis.Hilliker]

"Brilliant business mind"?

Just a thought, how many billions are you worth?

 

[Armoured]

Just a thought, how many billions are you worth?

Just a thought, net worth = "brilliant business mind"

 

[mark kennedy]

In short, we had two terrible candidates last election season. No matter who you voted for, you will have to apologize to future generations. I include the people who stayed home and the people who voted third party in this, because both "alternate" choices passively help the eventual winner.

The old saying that we get the government we deserve has held true in that election. Trump in the White House is symptomatic of a much more serious problem, the better qualified candidates cannot get elected. Here in Indiana at one point Richard Luger, a great Senator that I admire even though I'm a Democrat, was defeated by a Tea Party candidate because he didn't measure up to their check list. But that was some time ago. In the last election Evan Bayh a two time Governor and two time Senator was defeated by Todd Young which is a sad commentary on how our political process is mired in mud slinging and sound bite superficiality.

I didn't bother to vote and I apologize for nothing. Millennials are on pace to surpass our emotive superficiality by leaps and bounds. The two strongest candidates, Sanders and Trump were a Communist and an incompetent Nationalist demagogue. Future generations had better learn to hard lessons of our mistakes of filtering out the best and the brightest in favor of ill conceived political ideology. In the ideology of the GOP I see a burning nationalistic fervor supporting a bloated industrial military complex, with a pro status quo, corporate laissez-faire capitalism. The Democrats favor a socialistic bureaucracy from a top down Federal labyrinth to the tentacles of ever encroaching spanning out and including all social, legal and political agendas of an Ivy League status quo.

Political partisanship gives us a Faustian bargain, our government will give us anything we want but we can never be satisfied. We brought this on ourselves, future generations will have the same choice we do, learn from the mistakes of history or you are doomed to repeat them.

 

[Sketcher]

The old saying that we get the government we deserve has held true in that election. Trump in the White House is symptomatic of a much more serious problem, the better qualified candidates cannot get elected.

Oh, sure. I'll bet Oprah and Chris Matthews are kicking themselves for asking him (and with hope in their faces) if he would run for President one day. He's the nominee the media in this election cycle wanted too, they worked for that by giving him the spotlight. And social liberals who have been telling conservatives to get religious values out of their politics for years essentially got what they asked for - the most liberal and secular Republican to run on the Republican Presidential ticket in my lifetime.

 

[Greyy]

Well, duh. The House of Representatives is, by our Constitution, in charge of this matter (as you yourself said). But at least there's no longer a question about what the charge was that brought a vote of impeachment.

You can bring up whatever charges you want, it does not make them valid. In this case, we know the charges were false. He was accused of lying about having sex with a woman he did not have sex with.

 

[Greyy]

What would you ask him?

You can ask him anything. The only thing that matters are objective facts like his tax returns he refuses to release.

 

[Greyy]

But you questioned a billionaire's business mind? For you to question it, you must be a trillionaire.

We have no idea how much money he has.

The wealth of a person has nothing to do with their intelligence or ability to effectively hold a job.

 

[Albion]

You can bring up whatever charges you want, it does not make them valid.

Next I'll be hearing that here never was a President Bill Clinton, either.

 

[1stcenturylady]

We have no idea how much money he has.

The wealth of a person has nothing to do with their intelligence or ability to effectively hold a job.

That's only true if he obtained all his money through an inheritance.

 

[mark kennedy]

Oh, sure. I'll bet Oprah and Chris Matthews are kicking themselves for asking him (and with hope in their faces) if he would run for President one day. He's the nominee the media in this election cycle wanted too, they worked for that by giving him the spotlight. And social liberals who have been telling conservatives to get religious values out of their politics for years essentially got what they asked for - the most liberal and secular Republican to run on the Republican Presidential ticket in my lifetime.

Trump is an anomaly, Rush Limbaugh loves him and Jim Garrison called him a Democrat. The fascination with his Twitter tweets eludes me and I consider his agenda to be random, ego driven rhetoric. I think calling him Liberal would be offensive to true Liberals since he is an immigration protectionist and an industrial military complex fanatic. With all that going on he has shown a fundamental misunderstanding of how military service works, disparaging McCain for his service was nothing short of ill conceived ignorance.

Still I'm cautiously optimistic that the man can figure out what he is supposed to be doing. He is caught between a steep learning curve and his ego, something has got to give.

 

[Sketcher]

I think calling him Liberal would be offensive to true Liberals since he is an immigration protectionist and an industrial military complex fanatic.

Depends on what a "true liberal" is. I see him fitting right in with pre-1968 Democrats, including Wilson.

With all that going on he has shown a fundamental misunderstanding of how military service works, disparaging McCain for his service was nothing short of ill conceived ignorance.

Correct, but at least he put Mattis and McMasters in charge.

Still I'm cautiously optimistic that the man can figure out what he is supposed to be doing. He is caught between a steep learning curve and his ego, something has got to give.

He's been better than I believed he would be so far. It's a long 4 years, though.

 

[Greyy]

That's only true if he obtained all his money through an inheritance.

1) We don't know how much money he has, if any. He refuses to release his tax returns and blatantly lie about not being able to do so because he is being audited.

2) Brilliance is not proportional to wealth. Brilliant people aren't always interested in accumulating vast sums of money, especially in something like real estate. The most intelligent people often work hard to realize their ideas, not make cash. Cash is a great means to realize ideas. People can make a lot of money by being good at one particular thing or even just having one idea.

People like Trump that obsess about the image they project or the wealth they possess (but do not disclose) generally aren't above average intelligent people.

 

[1stcenturylady]

1) We don't know how much money he has, if any. He refuses to release his tax returns and blatantly lie about not being able to do so because he is being audited.

2) Brilliance is not proportional to wealth. Brilliant people aren't always interested in accumulating vast sums of money, especially in something like real estate. The most intelligent people often work hard to realize their ideas, not make cash. Cash is a great means to realize ideas. People can make a lot of money by being good at one particular thing or even just having one idea.

People like Trump that obsess about the image they project or the wealth they possess (but do not disclose) generally aren't above average intelligent people.

What about Hillary made you want her as president?

 

[Biblicist]

From Politico today- secular atheist Michael Shermer says that the rise of Trump is proof that the United States is moving towards atheism...
Who Cares if Trump Is Religious?
Unfortunately, its hard to disagree with him....the fact that Christians voted for Donald "grab them by the *****" Trump in the GOP primaries is an absolute disgrace.... The fact that they voted for him when their were 12 or 13 other principled Christian candidates to choose from (Bobby Jindal, Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Rick Perry etc etc) makes it even more unforgivable....

My concern as an outsider was that Killery Clinton would gain power through the vote of the large number of atheists and liberal churchgoers who seemed to be giving her their full support; as much as Trump has been tamed by the military-industrial industry through his backflip on the horrid NATO he was still a better option than Killery who was nothing less than a warmonger who had a blood lust.

 

[Greyy]

What about Hillary made you want her as president?

If you can't think of an appropriate way to respond to my post, then don't. Here is what I posted: 1) We don't know how much money he has, if any. He refuses to release his tax returns and blatantly lie about not being able to do so because he is being audited.

2) Brilliance is not proportional to wealth. Brilliant people aren't always interested in accumulating vast sums of money, especially in something like real estate. The most intelligent people often work hard to realize their ideas, not make cash. Cash is a great means to realize ideas. People can make a lot of money by being good at one particular thing or even just having one idea.

People like Trump that obsess about the image they project or the wealth they possess (but do not disclose) generally aren't above average intelligent people.

 

[DrBubbaLove]

If you can't think of an appropriate way to respond to my post, then don't. Here is what I posted: 1) We don't know how much money he has, if any. He refuses to release his tax returns and blatantly lie about not being able to do so because he is being audited.

2) Brilliance is not proportional to wealth. Brilliant people aren't always interested in accumulating vast sums of money, especially in something like real estate. The most intelligent people often work hard to realize their ideas, not make cash. Cash is a great means to realize ideas. People can make a lot of money by being good at one particular thing or even just having one idea.

People like Trump that obsess about the image they project or the wealth they possess (but do not disclose) generally aren't above average intelligent people.

We do know he has already donated his first year presidential salary to charity (after being told he could not by law just refuse to take it). We know his daughter is supporting the president as an advisor without salary. We know the last return to be released showed charitable contributions that outweighed the totals of Obama (+ 2 others - Biden and another Dem I think if I recall the comparison correctly). We also know Presidents and candidates are not required by any law to release their tax returns.

 

[white gardenia]

My concern as an outsider was that Killery Clinton would gain power through the vote of the large number of atheists and liberal churchgoers who seemed to be giving her their full support; as much as Trump has been tamed by the military-industrial industry through his backflip on the horrid NATO he was still a better option than Killery who was nothing less than a warmonger who had a blood lust.

Again I have no problem with people who voted for trump over Hillary in the general election...Who did you vote for in the republican primaries?