The Red Dragon as China

[nonaeroterraqueous]

Lucifer was Satan's (Adversaries) original name....

I see no evidence for that anywhere in the Bible. Lucifer can mean "Morning Star," which can refer to Jesus, and it has also referred to the planet Venus, or angels, etc. The meaning you give it stems from a long-standing rumor based on Isaiah 14:12, which was written to a king, telling him that he had fallen from the heights of a morning star. In every case, the Bible makes no connection between Lucifer and Satan, nor does it imply anything negative about the term, Lucifer or Morning Star. It's just hearsay. People think it's true, because they hear other people say it. We're listening to our own echo. No argument should ever be based on the principle that everyone knows it's true. That's an ad populum fallacy.

 

[Revealing Times]

I see no evidence for that anywhere in the Bible. Lucifer can mean "Morning Star," which can refer to Jesus, and it has also referred to the planet Venus, or angels, etc. The meaning you give it stems from a long-standing rumor based on Isaiah 14:12, which was written to a king, telling him that he had fallen from the heights of a morning star. In every case, the Bible makes no connection between Lucifer and Satan, nor does it imply anything negative about the term, Lucifer or Morning Star. It's just hearsay. People think it's true, because they hear other people say it. We're listening to our own echo. No argument should ever be based on the principle that everyone knows it's true. That's an ad populum fallacy.

Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

All of the Angels were called the Morning Star of which Lucifer was said to be the brightest. Stars are something the Scriptures call Angels over and over, and since these were the brightest angels thet were called the Morning Stars.

Its not really that important to be honest.