The principle of exclusion, the abomination on the wings of the temple.

[rdclmn72]

Daniel cites twice the setting up of an abomination.
Specifically, on the wings of the temple, which according to 1Ki 8;64, allows for it as being possible in the first, third, and the fourth temple.

How do you reconcile the facts that are assumed by most, that the abomination is that of the altar, located in the middle of the temple complex?

You can plausibly assume that its based on Achaz and his replacement of the main altar by another of a pagan design.

You can plausibly assume that it refers to what Mannasseh erected throughout the temple complex.

Antiochus, you assume too much...
-wrong place, wrong precedent, especially since there are now four precedents set by hebrews;
1. the sons of Aaron.
2. the sons of Eli.
3. Achaz.
4. Mannasseh.

Where does that leave a gentile that profanes but doesn't desolate?
Especially when the post-exilic temple was both sparse and too small.

Where the facts don't match, you exclude.
Otherwise you're just citing commentary.

 

[Biblewriter]

Daniel cites twice the setting up of an abomination.
Specifically, on the wings of the temple.

The Hebrew word translated wings in some translations of Daniel 9:27 is knapf. (Word number 2077 in Strong's Hebrew Dictionary) This word refers to the abomination, not to the temple. The comments about an abomination in Daniel 11:31 and Daniel 12:11 do not use this word.

How do you reconcile the facts that are assumed by most, that the abomination is that of the altar, located in the middle of the temple complex?

You can assume that its based on Achaz and his replacement of the main altar by another of a pagan design.

You can assume that it refers to what Mannasseh erected throughout the temple complex.

Both of these were long before the time of Daniel.

The abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet was still future when out Lord Jesus was hers, as He referred to it as future in Matthew 24:15 and Mark 13:14.

 

[rdclmn72]

1Kings 8;64 indicates that the temple was consecrated with offerings in the middle part of the courtyard, - big enough...

 

[Bible2]

When Daniel says "for the overspreading of abominations
he shall make it desolate" (Daniel 9:27), this could
refer to the same event as Daniel 11:31, when the
Antichrist will make a future (even to our time) old
covenant temple in Jerusalem spiritually desolate by
sitting inside it and proclaiming himself God
(2 Thessalonians 2:4, Daniel 11:36).

The original Hebrew word in Daniel 9:27 which the KJV
translates as "overspreading" and the NIV translates
as "a wing" can mean a wing (Ezekiel 17:23), but it
doesn't have to mean that every time that it's used,
for it can also mean "the uttermost part" (Isaiah
24:16), as in from where one can go no farther. This
would apply to the "holy place" of the temple, in
which will "stand" the abomination of desolation
(Matthew 24:15), and from which one can go no farther
into the temple. (What will stand in the holy place
will probably be a statue of the Antichrist which he
will place in the innermost sanctum of the temple after
he has sat there and proclaimed himself God.) And the
"overspreading" or "the uttermost part" nature of the
abomination of desolation (Daniel 9:27) would mean that
it will involve not just the innermost sanctum of the
temple, but the entire temple. What the Antichrist
could do is engrave the gematrial number of his name,
"666" (Revelation 13:17b-18) all over the temple,
within and without, top to bottom, thereby completely
and utterly defiling it, rendering it spiritually
desolate.

---

1 Kings 8:64 applies only to the first temple, which
was destroyed by the time Daniel wrote down Daniel 9:27.
And 1 Kings 8:64 refers to something good that happened,
not to any abomination of desolation.

The abomination of desolation (Daniel 11:31) refers
only to a third temple which will be built in Jerusalem
by some ultra-Orthodox Jews, who will restart the old
covenant animal sacrifices in front of that temple
before the Antichrist stops those sacrifices (Daniel
11:31).

No scripture refers to an abomination of desolation
occurring in the fourth temple, which will be built
as a new covenant temple by Jesus Christ at his second
coming (Zechariah 6:12-13) for use during the
millennium (Zechariah 14:20-21).

---

The abomination of desolation will involve more than
just the stopping of old covenant animal sacrifices
offered on an altar in front of a third temple; it
will also involve the Antichrist entering into the
innermost sanctum of the third temple and sitting down
in it and proclaiming himself God, and then placing a
standing statue of himself there to be worshipped
(Matthew 24:15, Daniel 11:31,36, 2 Thessalonians 2:4).

---

Ahaz' replacement of the original altar of the first
temple by another of a pagan design as the place where
the old covenant animal sacrifices would be offered
in front of the temple (2 Kings 16:10-16), reserving
the original altar as the place where Ahaz would make
enquiries to YHWH (2 Kings 16:15b), although it was
wrong to do, isn't referred to as an abomination of
desolation.

The pagan shrines which King Manasseh erected
throughout the first temple complex (2 Kings 21:5,
2 Chronicles 33:5), including within the temple
(2 Kings 21:4,7, 2 Chronicles 33:4,7), are referred
to as abominations (2 Kings 21:2,11, 2 Chronicles
33:2), because of which God would later bring physical
desolation to all of Jerusalem and Judah (2 Kings
21:12-14, 23:26-27, Jeremiah 15:4), even despite God's
accepting of King Manasseh's personal repentance
(2 Chronicles 33:12-13), cleansing of the temple from
all pagan altars (2 Chronicles 33:15), and restoration
of the original altar and old covenant animal sacrifices
(2 Chronicles 33:16).

---

Antiochus didn't fulfill Daniel 11:31,36, for Jesus
said in the first century that the church will see
that happen (Matthew 24:15, cf. 2 Thessalonians 2:4).

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

When Daniel says "for the overspreading of abominations
he shall make it desolate" (Daniel 9:27), this could
refer to the same event as Daniel 11:31, when the
Antichrist will make a future (even to our time) old
covenant temple in Jerusalem spiritually desolate by
sitting inside it and proclaiming himself God
(2 Thessalonians 2:4, Daniel 11:36).

Now.......the Jews would never go for that.......the Judean's Reign is finished......Give the Glory to JESUS!!!!

Daniel 9:27 And he has mastery a covenant to many-ones, seven, one. And midst/half of the seven, he shall cause to cease sacrifice and present. And on wing-of abominations one making desolate, and/even until a finish and being decided she shall be poured forth on one being desolate

 

[Bible2]

The ultra-Orthodox Jews will never go for the
Antichrist sitting in the temple (2 Thessalonians 2:4)
which they'll have rebuilt in Jerusalem (Revelation
11:1); they'll no doubt fight him tooth and nail as
he approaches the temple, but he'll overcome them
militarily so that they won't be able to prevent
him from spiritually desolating the temple (Daniel
11:31, Matthew 24:15).

But there will be other, non-Orthodox Jews who will go
for the Antichrist sitting in the temple, and will
even assist him in spiritually desolating it (Daniel
11:30b-32a). These could include Luciferian Jews who
will be all for the Antichrist's Luciferian world-
reign, when the whole world will be brought into the
worship of Lucifer and the Antichrist (Revelation 13:4-8).

 

[hiscosmicgoldfish2]

I could comment here, but my views would be ignored, so I wont bother.

 

[visionary]

Saatan can fly. Just as He took Jesus and tempted Him with three things.. all of mankind will also get the same offer. All the kingdoms of the earth if you worship Him (one world government) Protection if you go against God's Word (this would be where He is standing on the top corner of the temple so that all can see him) and the gift of food (no buy or sell unless you have the mark)

 

[Bible2]

The Antichrist will accept the offer of Satan which
Jesus refused (Luke 4:5-8), and so the Antichrist
will receive from Satan power over all the kingdoms
of the world (Revelation 13:7b).

The Antichrist will bring the whole world into the
worship of the dragon Satan (probably not as "Satan",
but as "Lucifer") and himself (Revelation 13:4-18).

 

[visionary]

Now.......the Jews would never go for that.......the Judean's Reign is finished......Give the Glory to JESUS!!!!

Daniel 9:27 And he has mastery a covenant to many-ones, seven, one. And midst/half of the seven, he shall cause to cease sacrifice and present. And on wing-of abominations one making desolate, and/even until a finish and being decided she shall be poured forth on one being desolate

That possibility is not so remote as you may think.. The Temple Institute's ultimate goal is to see Israel rebuild the Holy Temple on Mount Moriah in Jerusalem, in accord with the Biblical commandments. http://www.templeinstitute.org/main.htm

They are almost ready... so much so, that should they be given the command to build, they have all the material ready and waiting and will be able to assemble it all within three years, and have everything ready .. from priests, all temple articles, all procedures and protocols for service, etc..... to start temple services again. Missing pieces... They are very close to having the red heifer, the temple site, ... so don't cross them off your list yet.

Don't think that negotiations are not underway right as we speak for a way for them to get their way... understand... the covenant is with many .... negotiations are compromises to come to an agreement. Just don't make a deal with the wrong party which is predicted. That is where the abomination comes in... it is written into the contract to get the deal. I also think that the covenant will be broken in the midst of the week. Just about the time that the temple is finished.

Daniel 9:27
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

 

[visionary]

The ultra-Orthodox Jews will never go for the
Antichrist sitting in the temple (2 Thessalonians 2:4)
which they'll have rebuilt in Jerusalem (Revelation
11:1); they'll no doubt fight him tooth and nail as
he approaches the temple, but he'll overcome them
militarily so that they won't be able to prevent
him from spiritually desolating the temple (Daniel
11:31, Matthew 24:15).

But there will be other, non-Orthodox Jews who will go
for the Antichrist sitting in the temple, and will
even assist him in spiritually desolating it (Daniel
11:30b-32a). These could include Luciferian Jews who
will be all for the Antichrist's Luciferian world-
reign, when the whole world will be brought into the
worship of Lucifer and the Antichrist (Revelation 13:4-8).

Rabbi Richman reflects on his motivation in establishing the Temple Institute's International Department:

"The Torah testifies that the Holy Temple in Jerusalem was the spiritual center for all mankind. All of Israel's prophets foretell that in the future, the Holy Temple will once again stand on Mount Moriah, and at that time all nations will worship there together.

This will come back to bite them... because by their own fenced in traditions, will not allow gentiles to worship as they do.. thus inviting foreign "gentile" style worship in the temple.. imagine the variations of gentiles worshiping in God's temple.. Do you think God would want that?

 

[Bible2]

When Richman says that "the Holy Temple will once again stand on
Mount Moriah, and at that time all nations will worship there
together", he could mean that people from all nations will become
ultra-Orthodox Jewish proselytes and worship in a rebuilt temple in
Jerusalem as ultra-Orthodox Jews.

For the ultra-Orthodox Jews will never willingly let Gentiles worship
in a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem who haven't been circumcised
(Ezekiel 44:7) and undergone a strict conversion to ultra-Orthodox
Judaism, which conversion they would consider the only acceptable
"circumcision of the heart" (cf. Ezekiel 44:7).

The ultra-Orthodox Jews could downplay this, and just refer to
"all nations worshipping in the temple together" without mentioning
the requirement that any such worshippers will have to first become
ultra-Orthodox Jews, so that they can get the support of Christians
worldwide for their temple-building plan.

Christians could give money and political support for the rebuilding of
the temple, thinking that they'll get to visit it and worship in it. But
then when it's actually built, the ultra-Orthodox Jews will bar them
from setting foot anywhere near the temple lest they defile it.

---

Shortly after the ultra-Orthodox Jews have rebuilt the temple and
re-started the daily Mosaic animal sacrifices, the Antichrist (who
could be an Arab) will attack and defeat them (Daniel 11:22). But
instead of slaughtering them and breaking down the temple, the
Antichrist will "cut" a seven-year treaty with their false ultra-
Orthodox Jewish "Messiah" (Daniel 11:22b-23a, 9:26a, 9:27a),
permitting the false ultra-Orthodox Jewish "Messiah" and his
followers to keep their temple and keep performing their daily
sacrifices, so long as they give up the outermost court of the
temple to the Muslims (Revelation 11:2) so that the Muslims can
worship in the Al Aqsa Mosque at the southern end of the Temple
Mount.

The ultra-Orthodox Jews could be told that if they don't give up the
outermost court, the Antichrist will destroy the temple itself. So the
ultra-Orthodox Jews could agree to the seven-year treaty. They
could build a huge wall between the temple and the outermost court
given over to the Muslims, in order to prevent any "defilement" of the
temple by the Muslims.

Two or three years later, the Antichrist will break the seven-year
treaty, attack the temple, stop the daily sacrifices, and sit inside the
temple and proclaim himself God (Daniel 9:27b, 11:31,36, Matthew
24:15, 2 Thessalonians 2:4).

 

[visionary]

When Richman says that "the Holy Temple will once again stand on
Mount Moriah, and at that time all nations will worship there
together", he could mean that people from all nations will become
ultra-Orthodox Jewish proselytes and worship in a rebuilt temple in
Jerusalem as ultra-Orthodox Jews.

For the ultra-Orthodox Jews will never willingly let Gentiles worship
in a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem who haven't been circumcised
(Ezekiel 44:7) and undergone a strict conversion to ultra-Orthodox
Judaism, which conversion they would consider the only acceptable
"circumcision of the heart" (cf. Ezekiel 44:7).

The ultra-Orthodox Jews could downplay this, and just refer to
"all nations worshipping in the temple together" without mentioning
the requirement that any such worshippers will have to first become
ultra-Orthodox Jews, so that they can get the support of Christians
worldwide for their temple-building plan.

Christians could give money and political support for the rebuilding of
the temple, thinking that they'll get to visit it and worship in it. But
then when it's actually built, the ultra-Orthodox Jews will bar them
from setting foot anywhere near the temple lest they defile it.

---

Shortly after the ultra-Orthodox Jews have rebuilt the temple and
re-started the daily Mosaic animal sacrifices, the Antichrist (who
could be an Arab) will attack and defeat them (Daniel 11:22). But
instead of slaughtering them and breaking down the temple, the
Antichrist will "cut" a seven-year treaty with their false ultra-
Orthodox Jewish "Messiah" (Daniel 11:22b-23a, 9:26a, 9:27a),
permitting the false ultra-Orthodox Jewish "Messiah" and his
followers to keep their temple and keep performing their daily
sacrifices, so long as they give up the outermost court of the
temple to the Muslims (Revelation 11:2) so that the Muslims can
worship in the Al Aqsa Mosque at the southern end of the Temple
Mount.

The ultra-Orthodox Jews could be told that if they don't give up the
outermost court, the Antichrist will destroy the temple itself. So the
ultra-Orthodox Jews could agree to the seven-year treaty. They
could build a huge wall between the temple and the outermost court
given over to the Muslims, in order to prevent any "defilement" of the
temple by the Muslims.

Two or three years later, the Antichrist will break the seven-year
treaty, attack the temple, stop the daily sacrifices, and sit inside the
temple and proclaim himself God (Daniel 9:27b, 11:31,36, Matthew
24:15, 2 Thessalonians 2:4).

You are missing all the work the Papacy has been doing to gain Jewish faith relations and Muslim relations.. and the fruit of this endeavor will bring for the wish for the Papacy to move its Vatican to Jerusalem and especially to minister in the temple as the "vicar of Christ".

 

[Bible2]

No significant fruit has come, and may never come, from the current
Papacy's endeavors to gain a friendly relationship with non-Christian
Jews and with Muslims, for the current Papacy's endeavors have
been undercut by its blunders. It started out by being seen by
Muslims as gravely insulting Islam in a quote in a speech, and now
it's recently been seen by Jews as gravely insulting Jews by
reinstating to fellowship a Catholic denier of the Holocaust.

---

The Papacy has no desire, and may never have any desire, to move
the Vatican to Jerusalem, so long as Jerusalem remains under the
control of a non-Christian Jewish state. And the current state of
Israel has no desire, and may never have any desire, to allow the
Vatican to move to Jerusalem, as this could undercut the current
state of Israel's control over Jerusalem, and further weaken or
dilute the non-Christian Jewish religious claims on Jerusalem.

---

The ultra-Orthodox Jews will never willingly allow the Pope or any
other Christian to set foot anywhere near the temple which they're
going to rebuild on the Temple Mount in the Old City of Jerusalem,
as they would see this as a gross defilement of the temple.

---

The Antichrist may not be a Pope, but the next Pope could become
the False Prophet of the Antichrist (Revelation 19:20, 13:11-18).

The next Pope could start out his tenure by not just trying and
failing to make friends with the Muslims, but actually trying to
amalgamate Christianity and Islam into (what he could call) "One
World Religion of Peace, one religion of Abraham, practicing love for
the One God and love for all men". He could water down all of the
Biblical Christian doctrine which directly contradicts the Koran's
doctrine, something which the current Pope has refused to do.

For example, Biblical Christian doctrine states that Jesus is the Son
of God, and that whoever denies this is damned and will suffer God's
wrath (John 3:36). But the Koran's doctrine states emphatically that
Jesus isn't the Son of God, that God has no Son.

Also, Biblical Christian doctrine states that Jesus died on the cross
for our sins and rose from the dead on the third day, and that one
must believe this gospel in order to be saved (1 Corinthians 15:1-4),
and that anyone, even an angel from heaven, who teaches any
other gospel is cursed (Galatians 1:8-9). But the Koran's doctrine,
which it is claimed was revealed through an angel from heaven,
states emphatically that Jesus didn't die on the cross, that he didn't
die at all.

So the next Pope, if he wants to amalgamate Christianity and Islam
into one coherent religion, will have to rip the heart out of the
gospel, and replace it with a bunch of nice-sounding "peace and
love" mumbo-jumbo which most nominal Christians and moderate
Muslims will find quite appealing. For most nominal Christians, like
most moderate Muslims, aren't that much into (what they would
call) "dogma", but think that it doesn't matter what people believe
so long as they're "good persons".

In order to get most nominal Christians and moderate Muslims to
come under the umbrella of "One Religion of Peace", the next Pope
would have to not only completely ignore all of the Biblical and
Koranic teachings which directly contradict each other, but will have
to re-cast Islam as (what he could call) "a religion of Peace". He'll
have to convince nominal Christians that Islam has been hijacked by
(what he could call) "a small number of misguided zealots, who have
misinterpreted and corrupted the original, pure teachings of the
prophet Mohammed, in order to try to justify their murderous hatred
toward others unlike themselves".

If the next Pope succeeds in changing Islam's image, and getting the
world to accept Islam as "a religion of Peace", moderate Muslims
worldwide will rejoice, for they have no interest in violence, and are
too fearful to speak out against the jihadists themselves lest they
and their families be targeted and killed.

Moderate Muslims could come to embrace the next Pope as "a Great
Imam", one who has (as they could say) "brought Islam back to its
true, peaceful nature, and shown this to all the world, that we
peaceful Muslims might be more accepted by all the world".

If the next Pope becomes a "Great Imam" of Islam, while at the
same time remaining the "Pope" of Christianity, this could be
represented by the "two horns" of the False Prophet (Revelation
13:11), which could represent the holding of two positions of power
at the same time.

 

[visionary]

No significant fruit has come, and may never come, from the current
Papacy's endeavors to gain a friendly relationship with non-Christian
Jews and with Muslims, for the current Papacy's endeavors have
been undercut by its blunders. It started out by being seen by
Muslims as gravely insulting Islam in a quote in a speech, and now
it's recently been seen by Jews as gravely insulting Jews by
reinstating to fellowship a Catholic denier of the Holocaust.

---

You are right about that one... but he is not the last pope of prophecy who will be able to garner the covenant. [which I believe is the on Daniel speaks of

The Papacy has no desire, and may never have any desire, to move
the Vatican to Jerusalem, so long as Jerusalem remains under the
control of a non-Christian Jewish state. And the current state of
Israel has no desire, and may never have any desire, to allow the
Vatican to move to Jerusalem, as this could undercut the current
state of Israel's control over Jerusalem, and further weaken or
dilute the non-Christian Jewish religious claims on Jerusalem.

The crusades speak of a different story, and true, it is a deep secret of which the Jesuits are united on achieving

---

The ultra-Orthodox Jews will never willingly allow the Pope or any
other Christian to set foot anywhere near the temple which they're
going to rebuild on the Temple Mount in the Old City of Jerusalem,
as they would see this as a gross defilement of the temple.

That is where the covenant is broken, the Jesuits are working too diligently behind the scenes through government agencies, through faith representatives, and through financial avenues, to allow the ultra-conservative Jews to get away with that.

---

The Antichrist may not be a Pope, but the next Pope could become
the False Prophet of the Antichrist (Revelation 19:20, 13:11-18).

I agree

The next Pope could start out his tenure by not just trying and
failing to make friends with the Muslims, but actually trying to
amalgamate Christianity and Islam into (what he could call) "One
World Religion of Peace, one religion of Abraham, practicing love for
the One God and love for all men". He could water down all of the
Biblical Christian doctrine which directly contradicts the Koran's
doctrine, something which the current Pope has refused to do.

I agree

For example, Biblical Christian doctrine states that Jesus is the Son
of God, and that whoever denies this is damned and will suffer God's
wrath (John 3:36). But the Koran's doctrine states emphatically that
Jesus isn't the Son of God, that God has no Son.

Also, Biblical Christian doctrine states that Jesus died on the cross
for our sins and rose from the dead on the third day, and that one
must believe this gospel in order to be saved (1 Corinthians 15:1-4),
and that anyone, even an angel from heaven, who teaches any
other gospel is cursed (Galatians 1:8-9). But the Koran's doctrine,
which it is claimed was revealed through an angel from heaven,
states emphatically that Jesus didn't die on the cross, that he didn't
die at all.

So the next Pope, if he wants to amalgamate Christianity and Islam
into one coherent religion, will have to rip the heart out of the
gospel, and replace it with a bunch of nice-sounding "peace and
love" mumbo-jumbo which most nominal Christians and moderate
Muslims will find quite appealing. For most nominal Christians, like
most moderate Muslims, aren't that much into (what they would
call) "dogma", but think that it doesn't matter what people believe
so long as they're "good persons".

Catholics and Muslims both agree on the virgin Mary worship .. Her appearances could well promote the unity.

In order to get most nominal Christians and moderate Muslims to
come under the umbrella of "One Religion of Peace", the next Pope
would have to not only completely ignore all of the Biblical and
Koranic teachings which directly contradict each other, but will have
to re-cast Islam as (what he could call) "a religion of Peace". He'll
have to convince nominal Christians that Islam has been hijacked by
(what he could call) "a small number of misguided zealots, who have
misinterpreted and corrupted the original, pure teachings of the
prophet Mohammed, in order to try to justify their murderous hatred
toward others unlike themselves".

Both Catholic and Muslims are easily captivated by the appearances, so an even greater appearance of someone claiming to be Jesus beside his mother Mary should do the trick

If the next Pope succeeds in changing Islam's image, and getting the
world to accept Islam as "a religion of Peace", moderate Muslims
worldwide will rejoice, for they have no interest in violence, and are
too fearful to speak out against the jihadists themselves lest they
and their families be targeted and killed.

Moderate Muslims could come to embrace the next Pope as "a Great
Imam", one who has (as they could say) "brought Islam back to its
true, peaceful nature, and shown this to all the world, that we
peaceful Muslims might be more accepted by all the world".

If the next Pope becomes a "Great Imam" of Islam, while at the
same time remaining the "Pope" of Christianity, this could be
represented by the "two horns" of the False Prophet (Revelation
13:11), which could represent the holding of two positions of power
at the same time.

That is definitely a way of looking at the two horns that I never considered before.

 

[visionary]

Great Mufti

The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem is the Muslim cleric in charge of Jerusalem's Muslim holy places, such as the Al-Aqsa Mosque.
Mohammad Amin al-Husayni had the title for 27 years during the 20th century. However, the position of Grand Mufti of Jerusalem has been held by several people.
Mohammed Tahir Husseini during the 1890s
As'ad Shuqeiri from 1914 to 1918
Kamil al-Husayni from 1919
Mohammad Amin al-Husayni from 1921 to 1948
Hussam Al-din Jarallah from 1948 to 1954
Sulaiman Ja'abari from 1993 to 1994
Ekrima Sa'id Sabri from October 1994 to July 2006
Muhammad Ahmad Hussein from July 2006 to the present

Just for a little background..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Amin_al-Husayni#In_Nazi-occupied_Europe

Al-Azhar University (Arabic: الأزهر الشريف‎; Al-ʾAzhar al-Šarīf, "the Noble Azhar"), is an Egyptian institution of higher learning. It is connected to Al-Azhar mosque in Old Cairo, Al-Azhar (in Arabic: the most flourished and shining) was so called either because it was surrounded by great glittering places,[citation needed] or as a hopeful disposition, or after the name of Sayeda Fatima Al-Zahra', daughter of the Prophet Mohammed. The mosque was built in two years from 969 AD, the year in which its foundation was laid. The Madrasah connected with it was founded in 988 AD. Studies began in Al-Azhar in Ramadan by October 975 AD, ..The university is Named after Fatima who was a daughter of Mohammed. Three little girls supposedly saw a vision of Mary at Fatima in Lisbon, Portucal. The Roman Catholic church connect Islam to themselves through this "vision."

The 13th Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Handschar (1st Croatian) was one of the thirty-eight divisions fielded as part of the Waffen-SS during World War II. It was the largest of the SS divisions, with 21,065 men at its peak, composed almost entirely of non-German Muslim and Catholic recruits drawn from Bosnia. Handschar (Bosnian/Croatian: Handžar) was the local word for the Turkish scimitar (Arabic: Khanjar خنج&#1585, a historical symbol of Bosnia and Islam. An image of the Handschar adorned the division's flag and coat of arms.

The Handschar division was a mountain infantry formation, known by the Germans as "Gebirgsjäger". It was used to conduct operations against Yugoslav Partisans in the Balkan Mountains from February to September 1944.

 

[visionary]

Remember that it was the Jesuits that actually wrote the protocols...Anti Jewish Propaganda that was translated into Arab Languages to stir up hate. Even today, they still give these books to their young children in school.

Nazi dictators were Jesuits throughout Europe.

They were:
* Bavarian Germany and the Third Reich – [Adolph] Hitler [born-died: 1889-1945]
*Italy – [Benito] Mussolini [born-died: 1883-1945]
*France 'Vichy' – [Henri Philippe] Petain [born-died: 1856-1951]
* Spain – [Francisco] Franco
* Austria – Seyss-Inquart and Cardinal Initzer
* Poland – Frank
* Slovakia – [Jesuit] Priest Tiso
* Croatia – [Ante] Pavelic
* Belgium – Degrelle.

Also in Palestine there was the Grand Mufti Husseini

All these Roman Catholic, Jesuit-controlled, Jew-hating dictators were loyal to the greatest war criminal of all, Papal Caesar Pius XII and his master, Jesuit [Superior] General Wlodimir Ledochowski."
– Eric Jon Phelps

 

[visionary]

Roman Catholic leaders of Croatia unleashed their fury on their other non-Catholic neighbors with such ferocity that German Nazi witnesses were appalled.
See http://CatholicArrogance.Org/CroatianHolocaust.html or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ante_Paveli%C4%87.

 

[visionary]

Heinrich Himmler ( a Catholic ) was born October 7, 1900, as the son of a secondary school instructor and strict Roman Catholic. . .
"A man often seen as the very personification of evil. Heinrich Himmler was not only head of Hitler's SS police, but was also in charge of the death camps in the East. The account of Himmler's life and his impact on the rise and fall of the Nazi state make a gripping and horrifying story. But more than this, it is a profound moral and intellectual inquiry into the nature of evil in the human character.
Although Adolf Hitler held the ultimate responsibility for the killing of six million Jews, it was Heinrich Himmler who essentially laid the detailed plans for the Holocaust.
http://www.auschwitz.dk/Himmler.htm

 

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"I can see Himmler as our Ignatius of Loyola"
Adolf Hitler: "Libres propos" (Flammarion, Paris 1952, p.164).