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The Presidential Debate Was a Snapshot of America

Discussion in 'OBOB General Politics Forum' started by Michie, Oct 1, 2020.

  1. Michie

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    Things got ugly fast and they stayed ugly until the end. That’s why headlines from both the left and right spoke of “chaos” and a “circus” and a “bitter shouting match.” As I tweetedearly on, “I have heard family arguments that were more mature and civil than this. Unreal.” And then later, “There’s so much dirt flying it’s hard not to feel dirty just watching.”

    Over at Red State, Joe Cunningham put it like this: “This is a hard one, folks. Time and again, this debate proved to me that this is a terrifying time to be alive. Two old men shouting at each other while a third old man tries to get them to stop shouting at each other? Watching this debate was a type of self-destructive behavior that I’ll be recovering from for a while, I think.”

    Howard Kurtz on Fox News said: “It was the presidential debate as barroom brawl, as television shoutfest, as exhausting insult derby.” Over on CNN, Chris Cillizza stated: “It was, without question, the single worst debate I have ever covered in my two decades of doing this job.”

    The sad thing, though, is that the debate was a microcosm of the state of America. We are gravely divided. We are nasty. We burn bridges rather than build them. We don’t trust anyone that is not in our camp. We are deeply suspicious. Everyone seems biased.

    We All Lost
    And are there any national, unifying voices? Sadly, there are not.

    As for the debate itself, there were clear misses on each side (and I say this as someone with decades of experience in public debates).

    When you refuse to answer a head-on question (like Biden refusing to answer whether he would pack the Supreme Court if elected), you lose. When you do not expose a blatant lie told about you (like Trump failing to refute the “very fine people” Charlottesville lie), you lose. When you constantly interrupt, you lose (Trump started it, Biden joined in, Wallace added to the confusion).

    But in the end, regardless of who you think won or lost the debate, we all lost.

    Many of my Twitter followers agreed, as indicated by the responses to a post-debate poll which asked, “Who won the debate tonight in your opinion?”

    As of this writing, about two hours after the conclusion of the debate, the responses were: Biden, 8.6 percent; Trump, 37.2 percent; Neither, 20.1 percent; America lost, 34.1 percent.

    So, even among a largely conservative Christian voting base (meaning, those following me on Twitter), almost as many said that “America lost” as said that Trump won.

    Inappropriate Conduct
    The overall conduct of both candidates was inappropriate, unnecessary, and at times disgraceful.

    And again, I say this as public debater myself. You do not need to retaliate and break the rules. In fact, the lower your opponent goes, the higher ground you should take. It makes you look better and your opponent look worse. When you get down in the mud together, you lose your dignity in the process.

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  2. Bobber

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    It was the most bazaar thing in US history. Was it bad? Well yeah. But for some that will be the thing that gives it it's charm. 100 years from now people will still want to watch it just to say WOW.
     
  3. Bobber

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    This has got to start in the school system especially the universities. Unless they finally come to a place where they speak against demonizing an opponent they're raising the next generation of monsters. The question is do The People want a brave new world of civility and respect? You can't just look at two politicians as being at fault. Generally speaking everybody is. A journey of a thousand miles begins with one step....It's time we all get to walking! :oldthumbsup:
     
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