The Pope is facing a bit of push back from his clergy on LGBT issues

[BobRyan]

"Pope Francis’ controversial support for same-sex civil unions has found its fair share of critics in the United States."

Bishop Thomas Tobin of Providence, R.I., was one of the first leaders to come out with a public criticism of the pope’s statements.

“The Pope’s statement clearly contradicts what has been the long-standing teaching of the Church about same-sex unions,” Tobin said in a statement. “The Church cannot support the acceptance of objectively immoral relationships.”

Ed Mechmann, an official spokesman for the Archdiocese of New York, wrote a direct rebuke of the pope’s statement in a piece called “Dealing with Papal Mistakes.”

from: US cardinals criticize Pope Francis endorsement of same-sex unions

Is it possible there are large sections of the Catholic Church that do not agree with Pope Francis on this?

80 percent of priests in the Vatican are gay: new book
from; https://nypost.com/2019/02/14/80-percent-of-priests-in-the-vatican-are-gay-new-book/

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Interesting comment on this thread - needs to be highlighted.

Same sex adoption is still a very contentious issue for many, however the reality is that for many years a lot of children have been adopted by same sex parents and civil unions provide them various rights including inheritances, educational grants, and more.

Indeed - this goes right to that point.

 

[Gifts From Above]

Praise God! The Pope needs to be rebuked.

 

[Ezana]

Have you checked out OBOB lately? A quick scroll-through should make it pretty clear that "a bit of push back" is an understatement, to say the least.

 

[Fantine]

With his latest appointment of 13 cardinals, 60% of the cardinals who are young enough to vote for his successor were now appointed by Francis.
He may be getting ready to retire. I for one will miss his compassion, humility, and generosity tremendously.

 

[( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)]

I don't give a flip. Hear what Jesus said, "He also told them this parable: "Can the blind lead the blind? Will they not both fall into a pit?" Luke 6:39

 

[chevyontheriver]

"Pope Francis’ controversial support for same-sex civil unions has found its fair share of critics in the United States."

Is it possible there are large sections of the Catholic Church that do not agree with Pope Francis on this?

He has gotten a lot of push-back internationally and not just from the USA. He had a bad private opinion.

 

[Swag365]

"Pope Francis’ controversial support for same-sex civil unions has found its fair share of critics in the United States."



Is it possible there are large sections of the Catholic Church that do not agree with Pope Francis on this?

I dunno know about 80% but at least from my own experience, it seems that the percentage of Catholic priests who are gay is way higher than in the general population. But I can't really say for sure. Many priests I know just come off as pretty feminine, I don't honestly know if they are gay so I could be wrong.

 

[pdudgeon]

"Pope Francis’ controversial support for same-sex civil unions has found its fair share of critics in the United States."



Is it possible there are large sections of the Catholic Church that do not agree with Pope Francis on this?

No, I don't think that it's possible to say that "Large sections" of Catholics disagree with the Pope on this issue.
It would be more correct to say "some politically liberal segments of Catholics agree with the Pope on this issue", because the agreement originates from the realm of politics, and not that of religious beliefs.

In fact, the Catholic Church has for the last few years taken an active stance in the recompense to victims of inappropriate clerical sexual advances towards those members of the Catholic Church, that have amounted into the millions of dollars, and the defrocking and relocation of the offenders.

So it would be more accurate to say that many Catholics see this latest incident as a regrettable and a bit worrisome utterance from the Pope.

Moves in that direction by the Pope have already been noted, and have resulted in criticism from high-placed clergy in past years.

 

[Aussie Pete]

"Pope Francis’ controversial support for same-sex civil unions has found its fair share of critics in the United States."



Is it possible there are large sections of the Catholic Church that do not agree with Pope Francis on this?

I've always appreciated Catholicism's stand on moral issues, even if there have been great moral failings. I am not catholic and I have issues with a number of catholic doctrines. But to see the pope throw truth out of the window is sad.

 

[lismore]

The next Pope maybe even more liberal than this one. Then then old rhyme will be relevant:

'Take care of the first, for the seconds' far worse and you'll long for the old one again!'

 

[Lost4words]

Trust in Jesus.

 

[concretecamper]

Pope Francis' personal opinions are quite odd. Church teaching is quite solid.

 

[lismore]

Pope Francis' personal opinions are quite odd. Church teaching is quite solid.

You would think the Pope's opinion would be more representative of Catholicism than folks on an internet forum though?

 

[chevyontheriver]

You would think the Pope's opinion would be more representative of Catholicism than folks on an internet forum though?

His opinions are his own. We shall see if he destroys the Catholic Church or not. I'm hoping the Holy Spirit has an opinion on that.

 

[concretecamper]

You would think the Pope's opinion would be more representative of Catholicism than folks on an internet forum though?

I would think the Pope's opinion ARE representative of the typical Catholic. It goes to show how lost these typical Catholics are.

 

[Hawkins]

One of the advantages of multi-denominational Protestant churches is, it doesn't allow a single person to screw up God's earthly Church as a whole!

If only RCC exists, then a pope can bring it down single handedly.

 

[Albion]

The next Pope maybe even more liberal than this one.

The "betting" seems to be that the opposite will happen.

 

[concretecamper]

One of the advantages of multi-denominational Protestant churches is, it doesn't allow a single person to screw up God's earthly Church as a whole!

If only RCC exists, then a pope can bring it down single handedly.

Christ's Church has endured much worse. She is still around for close to 2,000 years despite despite internal and external forces aimed at destroying her.

 

[BobRyan]

One of the advantages of multi-denominational Protestant churches is, it doesn't allow a single person to screw up God's earthly Church as a whole!

If only RCC exists, then a pope can bring it down single handedly.

Technically the Christian church is composed of all denominations including the "RCC "as you abbreviate the name for it. Therefore it is still true that no matter what any one of them says (including the RCC) we do not expet "all of them" to simply "buy into it" without first looking.

 

[Albion]

One of the advantages of multi-denominational Protestant churches is, it doesn't allow a single person to screw up God's earthly Church as a whole!

Does the term, as you're using it, refer to the same idea as the more common one, "Non-denominational?"

If so, there would be only one congregation to screw up and bring down, wouldn't there?