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The Perfect Church

Discussion in 'Semper Reformanda' started by JM, Jul 6, 2020.

  1. JM

    JM Orthodox Protestant Supporter

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    People rarely recognize how greatly they expose their pride and self-righteousness by the things they say and do. Over the years, I have known a good many people who, finding fault with someone else, have left one local church and gone to another. When asked why, I have heard many say, “I can’t go to church with people like that….with people who believe that…with people who wear…” etc. Others can’t attend church here because we do or do not practice closed communion.

    I have a few questions for all you good pompous religionists. Do you reckon the Lord Jesus knew Judas was a betrayer when he sat with him at the first communion service? Obviously, he did. Yet, he served the bread and wine to Judas and to Peter. Do you suppose there were any people in the local church at Corinth who had a problem with inebriation? Obviously, there were some. But Paul never suggested that faithful brethren should therefore abandon the assembly. Were there any in the Galatian church who had a problem with legalism? Indeed, there were. But none were taught that they should therefore abandon the church.

    If you are looking for the perfect church, you’ve come to the wrong building. That’s the one down the road or across the country. This is a family of sinners saved by God’s free grace in Christ. We’ve come here to worship him, sing his praise, proclaim his goodness, hear from him, and help one another along the way. - Don Fornter
     
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  2. Aspzan

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    "There is no perfect church and if there was you would ruin it."
     
  3. JM

    JM Orthodox Protestant Supporter

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    Old, OLD joke...but still true.
     
  4. Phil W

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    Why don't you feel that God can't create a perfect church?
    He did make a way for us to be a perfect man, with a perfect Spirit, so if two of these get together He has also created a perfect church.
    BTW, He is coming back for a virgin bride-church, so if your's doesn't match that definition...it is time to leave.
     
  5. JM

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    Sheep and goats. Wheat and tares.
     
  6. Phil W

    Phil W Well-Known Member

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    Sheep, wheat.
    There are good, obedient to God people out here.
    Not everyone will be cast out.
     
  7. JM

    JM Orthodox Protestant Supporter

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    That's my point. The visible church is not perfect.
     
  8. Phil W

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    Then the sheep/wheat are still goats and tares.
    Jesus won't find a virgin bride when He returns.
    I can't buy that.
     
  9. JM

    JM Orthodox Protestant Supporter

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    Matthew 13

    24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: 25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. 26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. 27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? 28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? 29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

    Yours in the Lord,

    jm
     
  10. Phil W

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    I get the impression that all you have ever experienced are false, stained, spotted churches.
    Don't despair.
    There are good ones out here.
     
  11. JM

    JM Orthodox Protestant Supporter

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    Phil W, how do you interpret the portion of scripture I quoted above?
     
  12. Phil W

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    JM, I interpret Matt 13 this way...
    The field is the world.
    The good seed is the word of God.
    The bad seed is false doctrine.
    The sprouted wheat is those who adhere to Godliness.
    The sprouted tares are those sent to pollute the "crop".
    When Christ returns for God's children, He will root out the bad and keep the good.
    If applied to a church setting, the wheat are the true believers and the tares are the posers.
    If the whole "church" is posers, none will be counted as God's children.
     
  13. JM

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    I'm not following your rabbit trail.
     
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