The peaceful protesters

[truefiction1]

How so? If killing an animal is always driven by the awful urges that you claim the people who do so professionally and their employers would be a much larger group and bigger worry than these people who very likely didn't kill the pig at the center of their tasteless spectacle.

It isn't pigs that we are concerned about.

 

[truefiction1]

So the whole “petition the Government for the redress of grievances” is just “window dressing” for how “they” want chaos and anarchy?
One might think a Christian might be a bit less cynical.

One might better realize how many are deceived, even those labeled "Christians".

 

[Quartermaine]

If it were fake it would be burning more uniformly. In my non expert opinion, never having handled nor burned a pigs head, it looks to have had accelerant poured in its mouth.

I can only guess how hot the flames woudl have to be to get any flesh to catch fire like that.


made a quick call to a firefighter i know. An accelerant put in a space like a pig's mouth woudl cause a small explosion not a slow burn flame.

 

[lasthero]

It's also worth noting that accounts from the protest do mention someone setting a small fire. If this is the same thing incident, the protestors were the ones who put it out.

 

[Desk trauma]

I can only guess how hot the flames woudl have to be to get any flesh to catch fire like that.

Hence why I said an accelerant was used, the flesh does not look to be burning on its own in the picture.

made a quick call to a firefighter i know. An accelerant put in a space like a pig's mouth woudl cause a small explosion not a slow burn flame.

You may want to reiterate to the guy that the head was severed leaving a passage for air from behind.

 

[Quartermaine]

Hence why I said an accelerate was used, the flesh does not look to be burning on its own in the picture.


You may want to reiterate to the guy that the head was severed leaving a passage for air from behind.

sent him the picture.

 

[Desk trauma]

It isn't pigs that we are concerned about.

If all killing is driven by the lust for power as claimed in post 27 how can you not be concerned over a global industry that is based around killing billions of animals?

I also reiterate that there is no indication that the pig was killed by those who used its head from their tasteless protest.

 

[iluvatar5150]

From Andy NGO.

A trustworthy, unbiased source if ever there was one.

Post three has two links showing it was Antifa. Nadler said plainly Antifa is a myth.

As noted, Andy Ngo's claims don't amount to "showing."

So the chances that Ngo's picture isn't real is pretty good.

Consider for a moment just how anyone in Portland would acquire a pigs head, bring it downtown in what?...their Nissan? Get it to burn...somehow. and Ngo is the only one who noticed.

How would you acquire it? Go to a butcher shop and buy one.

How to transport it? How big do you think this thing is? It's about the size of a pot roast. You could stuff it in a backpack.

That size is also why this is a joke of a fire. I've had bigger fires in a charcoal grill.

Also...and maybe it’s just me...but does that pig’s head look kind of, well...fake to anyone? I mean, I’ve never burned a pig’s head, so I’m not an expert, but...it looks kind of off to me. Like it’s made of something not skin.

Again, not saying it is. Could just be me.

I can only guess how hot the flames woudl have to be to get any flesh to catch fire like that.

It looks real enough to me - pig flesh looks kind of weird and plastic-y. If you want examples, the band Mayhem used to use pig heads on stage:
mayhem pig head - Google Search

As to the fire, it was wearing a hat and probably had something else stuffed in/under it as well.

An accelerant put in a space like a pig's mouth woudl cause a small explosion not a slow burn flame.

No, it wouldn't. It only might cause an explosion if the mouth was enclosed and/or the vapors had concentrated significantly. Pouring lighter fluid on it would look just like that.

 

[lasthero]

If all killing is driven by the lust for power as claimed in post 27 how can you not be concerned over a global industry that is based around killing billions of animals?

I also reiterate that there is no indication that the pig was killed by those who used its head from their tasteless protest.

And I'm still waiting for evidence that Antifa was involved. As near as I can tell, Ngo just claimed it was, without a single shred of evidence, and every article that cited just took that for granted.

 

[truefiction1]

If all killing is driven by the lust for power as claimed in post 27 how can you not be concerned over a global industry that is based around killing billions of animals?

I also reiterate that there is no indication that the pig was killed by those who used its head from their tasteless protest.

Eating the flesh of animals is something that people, who do not necessarily lust for power, do, and that is what is served by the meat industry. We are not concerned over animals being killed for human consumption. We are concerned about humans who will be violently sacrificed for the sake of an ideological cause. Do you feel that this can't happen here?

 

[Desk trauma]

It looks real enough to me - pig flesh looks kind of weird and plastic-y. If you want examples, the band Mayhem used to use pig heads on stage:
mayhem pig head - Google Search

BLMANTIFAWTH has now trodden on a fine Black Metal tradition, have they no shame?

 

[iluvatar5150]

BLMANTIFAWTH has now trodden on a fine Black Metal tradition, have they no shame?

Well, black metal has "black" in the name, so it's like a solidarity thing, right?

 

[Desk trauma]

Eating the flesh of animals is something that people, who do not necessarily lust for power, do, and that is what is served by the meat industry. We are not concerned over animals being killed for human consumption.

That service cannot be rendered without killing billions of animals, if all killing is from a lust for power how is that not a large concern?

We are concerned about humans who will be violently sacrificed for the sake of an ideological cause. Do you feel that this can't happen here?

My assertion was and is that you're assuming a great deal from one grotesque act of protest from facts not in evenidence.

Also, who's we? Are you the head of some organization that has elected you to speak for them?

 

[lasthero]

It looks real enough to me - pig flesh looks kind of weird and plastic-y. If you want examples, the band Mayhem used to use pig heads on stage:
mayhem pig head - Google Search

Nah, I'm good. I'll take your word for it. I have a strict 'one severed pig's head a day' limit.

 

[Desk trauma]

Well, black metal has "black" in the name, so it's like a solidarity thing, right?

Now I am picturing a pedantic Black Metal kid influenced by some of the NAZI contamination in the genre getting into it with a social justice BLM type. Talk about a match made in hell.

 

[durangodawood]

Look! Pig's head!

<everybody looks>

 

[Pommer]

One might better realize how many are deceived, even those labeled "Christians".

Maybe people are tired of nothing happening after decades of drawing the short straw?
“A more perfect union” must include a system of justice that’s JUST.
If “the people” find that the system under which they live isn’t just and nothing happens, protesting is likely, and yea, verily, most are going to to glad for those protests except for those at the top!

 

[iluvatar5150]

Now I am picturing a pedantic Black Metal kid influenced by some of the NAZI contamination in the genre getting into it with a social justice BLM type. Talk about a match made in hell.

I'm imagining that same kid showing up to a march, waving the pig head around, and getting really confused once he realizes that something isn't lining up. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if South Park already had an episode about Cartman and/or Butters doing something just like that.

 

[Broken Fence]

Same was probably said when the colonies went against the British.

Nothing is ever just plain and simple unless you see everything black or white.

Very simple with these murderers, theives, and terrorists.

 

[truefiction1]

That service cannot be rendered without killing billions of animals, if all killing is from a lust for power how is that not a large concern?



My assertion was and is that you're assuming a great deal from one grotesque act of protest from facts not in evenidence.

Also, who's we? Are you the head of some organization that has elected you to speak for them?

Killing of human beings is what I was referring to as being driven by lust for power. Serial murderers kill their human victims for that reason, and they often begin by practicing on animals first. But I don't worry about animals.

I'm not assuming much, actually, people are already injured and dying because of the protests.

I do speak for members of the Church, so yes, to answer your last question.

 

[truefiction1]

Maybe people are tired of nothing happening after decades of drawing the short straw?
“A more perfect union” must include a system of justice that’s JUST.
If “the people” find that the system under which they live isn’t just and nothing happens, protesting is likely, and yea, verily, most are going to to glad for those protests except for those at the top!

I am at the bottom, which is the best place to be, according to my Lord and Master, Jesus Christ. And I am of good cheer, because I know that Christ is risen from the dead, and has destroyed the power of death by His own death and Resurrection as God in the flesh. He is going to raise all of us. What power can any evil people really have over us? How's this for "optimistic"?