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"the Parable Of The Ten Minas"

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by rollinTHUNDER, Dec 15, 2002.

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  1. rollinTHUNDER

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    I love reading the parables; I believe they are meant to help guide those who are seeking, on how to obtain the kingdom of heaven.
    I noticed in this particular parable that these "wicked servants" would not allow the king (Jesus) to reign over them.

    What do you believe the exchange of money signifies?

    Matthew 25:14 tells of a similiar parable to the one you have posted, (parable of talents) have you read it? It is about his faithful, good and profitable servants and one unprofitable (wicked, lazy) servant, who hid his money/talent in the earth, and gained nothing.

    We shall all be judged and seperated in the end, but I am curious as to what God deems profitable for his servants; is it gaining spiritual gifts, or preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ, not denying his name, or being charitable, etc.

    I don't want to stand before Christ with nothing, you know?
     
  3. rollinTHUNDER

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    Hello Wild fire,
    It wasn't the wicked servants that didn't want Christ to reign over them. These were just lazy, and they will suffer loss of their reward. Go back and take another look. It was the subjects that didn't want Him to be King.

    Jesus didn't care for money. He came to save the lost. They are His treasure. That's why He came and died for all. He left His disciples here to spread the gospel and save the lost. That's what it's all about. He wants us to lay down our lives and let Him live through us. This though, is much easier said, than done. He also said that we must overcome the world. I believe the first step in overcoming the world is overcoming "self". This is also easier said than done, but no-one ever said it would be easy.

    He said the harvest is plentiful, but the workers are few. He also said many are called, but few are chosen. In a nutshell, He is coming back for His faithful servants, the ones who obey Him. It is much easier to lay down your life now, instead of waiting until the tribulation. There is nothing in this world that is worth the things in heaven. This world is passing away.

    It's kind of weird, but sometimes I think the things in this world are only makebelieve, and the real world is the one we can't see. It is weird, but only if you're not living a spirit filled life. The ones chasing after the things in this world are going to have a rude awakening, and the sad part is, that many of these are believers. I hope this helps you.
     
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    Okay, I see what you are saying about the servants; however, you have compared the servants to the virgins, is this from the parable of the bridegroom and ten virgins?
    mostly, what I want to know, is do you believe there are two judgements given here, one lesser and one greater. If there is no reward given to the lazy/wicked servant then how is he considered not to be an enemy (and slain)?
    Because in the ten virgins parable, the five foolish one return late and knock at the Lords door and he says to them; I know you not.
    If the path is narrow, and only a few are chosen, then what happens to those who (almost) make it, but fall short. I know you can't answer that, only God can, but I am trying to understand what you mean.
    thanks, Wildfire
     
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    P.S. I understand what you said about the world feeling like it isn't real; maybe it is because you and I are not a part of it; and God, who created the visible from the invisible, remains invisible. Yes, we are all inside out, aren't we? (but God sees us)
     
  6. rollinTHUNDER

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    Good question Wildfire,
    This is not the same parable.  It is another parable with a different view of the thing that Jesus was trying to show us. I'm not saying that all of His parables were about this same thing, but this one is.

    I got a good question from someone on another board. I'll cut and paste it below.

    Here it is:
    Interesting and thought provoking. But it brings up a few theological discussions to mind. Is it once saved always saved? Are Christians not to go through the trib?
    What <I>exactly</I> is a Christian?

    YBIC,
    Alan.

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    Hello - + - +,
    This is a little off topic, but an excellent question. Many preachers are preaching the idea that once you are saved, you are always saved. I think that is a little mis-leading. It's true that Jesus will not lose any that are His, But the problem is that many are claiming to be His that are not. The tribulation is coming, and many of these so called believers will fall from the way of truth and believe the lie.

    <B>2 Peter 2:20-21</B> - "If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were in the beginning. (21)It would have been better for them to not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them."

    This is not to say that all will fall away, but many will. Many will perish for a lack of knowledge. So Jesus will still have all that are His. First, the ones who are obedient, and then second, the ones who wash their robes in the tribulation.

    For years I had wondered about this myself, and was unable to prove or disprove it either way. I believe too many people are just assuming that it is so. I also used to believe that Christ was going to come back for all of His christians before the tribulation, but this too, is another false assumption. The timing is right, but not all are going, only those that are truely in Him. The key word is (in). Many christians are still running after the things in this world, and they will not be ready.

    <B>1 John 5:3-4</B> - "This is the love for God: to <B>obey</B> His commands. And His commands are not burdensome, <B>(4)for everyone born of God overcomes the world.</B> This is the victory that has overcome the world, even our faith."

    How can you overcome the world and still be in it?? We were told to come out and separate. Jesus layed His life down for all who would believe. This does not mean that all will be raptured. He is coming for His faithful bride. Yes He died for all, but many don't realize that the bride of Christ will also lay her life down for the one she loves. People need to be careful about what they believe. If we are truely crucified with Christ, then we will not be found in the world. The old man must die. It's much better to learn this now, than it is to wait until the tribulation. Unfortunately, this teaching falls pretty much on deaf ears, but it is what the Bible says. How foolish to think that we in this last generation only have to believe. If martyrdom was good enough for Jesus and His disciples, we certainly are not above it. People are still being martyred in our day. We Americans are taking too much for granted. To who much is given, much will be required. We need to wake up.&nbsp;
     
  7. Wildfire

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    good words Rollin, thanks.
    Wildfire
     
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