Is The New Zealand Haka Demonic? Pagan Ritual Dance At Events

[Rocky4GOD]

In New Zealand before Rugby matches, the players do a traditional tribal dance. Im shocked that a Christian country should allow its national sports stars to do pagan ritual dances.

Can you imagine the US national basketball team performing a pagan ritual on court before a game? Disgusting.

How can we help the people of New Zealand?

 

[kiwimac]

1: We are a largely secular nation.
2: The Maori people's culture is a rich one, deserving of being shared.
3: What exactly is your problem?

 

[Gnarwhal]

1: We are a largely secular nation.
2: The Maori people's culture is a rich one, deserving of being shared.
3: What exactly is your problem?

I agree, the Maori tribe is fascinating. We had a Maori pastor visit our church about ten years ago and he taught us the Haka, it was really cool. It's primarily a war cry, it's religious implications are more myth than anything else.

The idea that "we need to make the world like us" (e.g. "we need to make the world more westernized, more Americanized, etc.) is an archaic and ignorant one. We need to celebrate the various cultures in the world, and that can be accomplished while simultaneously retaining a Christian identity. Culture and Christianity aren't mutually exclusive.

 

[Rocky4GOD]

1: We are a largely secular nation.
2: The Maori people's culture is a rich one, deserving of being shared.
3: What exactly is your problem?

1. That's terrible. NZ should be a Christian country like the good ole US of A. If you guys believed in GOD a little more over there I'm sure you'd get less earthquakes.

2. Our forebares stamped out pagan tribes in Europe and then here in the US. You guys need to do the same otherwise you will never be one nation under GOD.

3. I am pro-Christian. I don't think national sports teams should be indulging in pagan rituals before games.

 

[Rocky4GOD]

I agree, the Maori tribe is fascinating. We had a Maori pastor visit our church about ten years ago and he taught us the Haka, it was really cool. It's primarily a war cry, it's religious implications are more myth than anything else.

The idea that "we need to make the world like us" (e.g. "we need to make the world more westernized, more Americanized, etc.) is an archaic and ignorant one. We need to celebrate the various cultures in the world, and that can be accomplished while simultaneously retaining a Christian identity. Culture and Christianity aren't mutually exclusive.

I'm a Christian and a patriot. I support out troops out fighting pagans across the world. USA, USA, Whoop, Whoop.

 

[kiwimac]

I'm calling Poe on this.

 

[Gnarwhal]

I'm calling Poe on this.

Yeah I think I'm going to play that card too.

 

[Rocky4GOD]

I'm calling Poe on this.

Your calling the pope? This is a non-denominational forum.

 

[kiwimac]

Poe's law, named after its author Nathan Poe, is an Internet adage reflecting the fact that without a clear indication of the author's intent, it is difficult or impossible to tell the difference between sincere extremism and an exaggerated parody of extremism.

Source: Wikipedia

 

[Rocky4GOD]

Poe's law, named after its author Nathan Poe, is an Internet adage reflecting the fact that without a clear indication of the author's intent, it is difficult or impossible to tell the difference between sincere extremism and an exaggerated parody of extremism.

Source: Wikipedia

Ah, thanks. I'd never heard of that before. Seems sensible. I wouldn't consider myself an extremist though. I am a very committed Christian but don't have any extreme views.

I think its worth pointing out though that both Tonga and Samoa both have their own pagan dance rituals before Rugby matches. Lots of dancing and summoning the 'gods'.

NZ may be a predominantly Christian country but these two minor island nations are still inhabited by animalistic/shaman types. Surely that can't be right 2011 years after Christ's birth?

 

[Victorium]

Don't you have semi-naked girls dancing before your football matches there in the US?

 

[Rocky4GOD]

Don't you have semi-naked girls dancing before your football matches there in the US?

Yes but thats not pagan. They are good Christian girls having fun. Nothing wrong with that. On the other hand, a bunch of New Zealander invoking animal spirits and demons is a different bag, my man.

 

[lancey]

Here's how you help. First you pull the log out of your own eye so that you can see the spec in your brothers eye clear enough to pull it out too.
I am Maori and I don't do the haka because I used to and I know what it does when you do it properly. You get filled with what I believe is a demonic spirit that numbs you to any other feeling but war. It's absolutely savage and it takes a few hours for the Wairua (spirit) to wear off you.
I believe my people have been deceived throughout the centuries by the devil only. Not man.
Our culture is based on Mana which to me if you break it down is honor. But the enemy has skewed it and turned it into Pride!
We all know that got hates pride as pride was the beginning of all sin.
The Lord is moving and in 2016 more and more Maori are coming to know the truth and are being set free. It is heart warming to see the lies exposed and all these warriors laying down the weapons of evil and putting on the armour of God.

 

[Gnarwhal]

I've done the Haka (taught how by a Christian Maori) and I didn't feel anything except a thrill from psyching out the guys I was playing touch football with.

 

[DawnStar]

You get filled with what I believe is a demonic spirit that numbs you to any other feeling but war.

That would be what is known as adrenaline.

 

[DawnStar]

1. That's terrible. NZ should be a Christian country like the good ole US of A. If you guys believed in GOD a little more over there I'm sure you'd get less earthquakes.

2. Our forebares stamped out pagan tribes in Europe and then here in the US. You guys need to do the same otherwise you will never be one nation under GOD.

3. I am pro-Christian. I don't think national sports teams should be indulging in pagan rituals before games.

Troll.

 

[Goodbook]

Haha pot calling kettle black with americans and their cheerleaders and beyonce and lady gaga before superbowl games.

Why would you be even watching the rugby anyway dont you have better things to do?!

 

[Goodbook]

If you like to intercede and pray for the nation, feel free. I will pray for those pagan american idol football jocks and you can pray for those pagan new zealander rugby haka scrummers.

 

[Armoured]

Troll.

Necro troll at that

 

[meladelle]

Here's how you help. First you pull the log out of your own eye so that you can see the spec in your brothers eye clear enough to pull it out too.
I am Maori and I don't do the haka because I used to and I know what it does when you do it properly. You get filled with what I believe is a demonic spirit that numbs you to any other feeling but war. It's absolutely savage and it takes a few hours for the Wairua (spirit) to wear off you.
I believe my people have been deceived throughout the centuries by the devil only. Not man.
Our culture is based on Mana which to me if you break it down is honor. But the enemy has skewed it and turned it into Pride!
We all know that got hates pride as pride was the beginning of all sin.
The Lord is moving and in 2016 more and more Maori are coming to know the truth and are being set free. It is heart warming to see the lies exposed and all these warriors laying down the weapons of evil and putting on the armour of God.

Thank you so much for your post! I was searching on this topic because I have seen a number of haka recently ... A wedding haka and the All Blacks and they gave me chills and made me very emotional. Part of me believed that there were spirits behind it that were not of God but at the same time, it was mesmerizing to watch.. Thanks for speaking the truth in love.