Sorry, but you are misinformed.
Judaism was a creation of the scribes and Pharisees which came out of the 70 years Babylon captivity. That is where the Babylonian Talmud originated. They changed usage to Aramaic and they treated the Talmud sage writings as their main tradition. That is why our Lord Jesus warned about their making void The Word of God by their traditions. So by your inferring that Jesus agreed with their teachings shows you have not understood what He taught hardly at all.
Hello Studyman. I think it might serve you well to look into the Levitical priesthood. The high priest on the day of atonement was for the circumcision of the flesh, the twelve tribes of Israel. They did not atone for Gentiles.There are many doctrines in the religions of this land. They are so many one can not count them. But there is only one Holy Scriptures and One God that inspired them. I don't buy into the religion which teaches that Paul taught against or differently than the God of the Bible.
Abraham had and obeyed God's Commandments, Statutes, and Laws. This can not be denied if God's Word is the source. God did tell Isaac he was Blessed because of Abraham's belief and obedience to HIS Commandments. I posted HIS very Words which clearly show this.
God told Cain the same thing. "If you do well, shall you not be accepted?"
Paul confirms this truth in the beginning of His preaching the Gospel of Christ.
Rom. 2:6
Who will render to every man according to his deeds: 7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
And again;
(For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
This aligns perfectly with the Word's of God to Isaac on Gen. 26 and also confirms Paul's declaration and belief of the Law and Prophets that the mainstream religion of his time called heresy.
Acts 24:14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:
The main focus of my reply was to discuss what Paul was referring to when he said man was not "Justified" by "works of the Law"?
So what were the "Works" required by Law for the atonement of sins essential for justification? Should I not ask that question?
Did Moses say "If a man sins, he shall Love his Neighbor as him self", or "keep God's Sabbath Holy, and his sins will be forgiven? Were the Pharisees, the children of satan, teaching the new converts that before they can be saved they must first "Love the Lord thy God with all thy heart"?
No Davy. If a man believes in the Word of God which became Flesh, he would know that God gave Aaron and the tribe of Levi a Priesthood specifically to provide for the atonement of sins, and justification, "til the seed should come". This Priesthood included various sacrificial "Works of the Law" (EX. Law of sin offering, Law of burnt offering, etc.) which were required before a man could become righteous, or have his sins forgiven. The Jews, who didn't believe Jesus was the Prophesied "SEED", were still promoting their version of these "Works of the Law" for atonement of sins.
Paul called this Law, "The Law of Works" in Rom. 3. Abraham was justified to be sure, but not by the "Law of Works" ADDED 430 years after he obeyed God's Commandments. He was justified by the "Law of Faith". The Pharisees had omitted these Laws from their religion, at least if a man believes in the Jesus of the Bible.
Matt. 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
I know this isn't taught in the religions of the land, but if a man would look into it, they would see that what I have posted is true, at least according to the Scriptures.
Thanks for the reply. I know how difficult it is to address scriptures which may bring a religious belief into question.
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Wow,
Thanks for the spirit filled reply.
I don't agree that posting scriptures and posing questions about them is pushing a false religion. But you are free to believe as you wish.
Did I say anything about Jesus agreeing with the Pharisees and Sadducees? They had taken historical Judaism created by the Torah given at Mount Sinai and perverted it for their own ends. "He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him." There was nothing wrong with Judaism, but with the religious leaders.
Rabbinic/Talmudic Judaism vs Torah Judaism? Matthew 23:2-3
So the Jews can call it 'Judaism' all they like, but in reality God's covenant He made was with Israel, meaning all 12 tribes of the children of Israel. The Jews were a separate branch of Israel which God split from the ten tribes per 1 Kings 11 thru 2 Kings 17. That's why they took the name Jew which comes from the sole tribe of Judah, and was put only for those of the southern "kingdom of Judah" at Jerusalem/Judea. And all the strangers living among them took the name Jew also (this per the Jewish historian Josephus who lived in 100 A.D.).
Thus 'Judaism' is a JEWISH religion of the Jews, NOT the original religion God gave to all Israel through Moses.
Paul calls himself an Israelite...Philippians 3:5...circumcised on the eighth day, of the people of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews....And Sephardim? And Mizrahim? What "Judaism" do THEY keep? Where are the other 10 tribes? Judah and Benyamin were left. Paul calls himself a Jew, yet he was from the tribe of Benyamin. Yeshua Himself was a Jew from Judah...So Yeshua is not part of the original religion God gave to all Israel at Sinai??
Hello Studyman. I think it might serve you well to look into the Levitical priesthood. The high priest on the day of atonement was for the circumcision of the flesh, the twelve tribes of Israel. They did not atone for Gentiles.
Heb 5:1 For every high priest taken from among men is ordained for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins:
On the high priests breastplate, he bore their names.
Ex 28:21 And the stones shall be with the names of the children of Israel, twelve, according to their names, like the engravings of a signet; every one with his name shall they be according to the twelve tribes.
Ex 39:14 And the stones were according to the names of the children of Israel, twelve, according to their names, like the engravings of a signet, every one with his name, according to the twelve tribes.
How did one not born of Abrahams loins get his names there?
Inter marriage
Through childbearing and circumcision of the flesh...
In the greek the term stranger is proselyte, and houseslave for sojourner.
21 So shall ye divide this land unto you according to the tribes of Israel.
22 And it shall come to pass, that ye shall divide it by lot for an inheritance unto you, and to the strangers that sojourn among you, which shall beget children among you: and they shall be unto you as born in the country among the children of Israel; they shall have inheritance with you among the tribes of Israel.
23 And it shall come to pass, that in what tribe the stranger sojourneth, there shall ye give him his inheritance, saith the Lord GOD.
I don't agree with the pushing the law into Abraham's belief on the Promise by Faith. Obviously Apostle Paul didn't agree that law pushing either, because that is what the Romans 4 and Galatians 3 Scripture is about, Scripture that you keep sidetracking on purpose.
Paul calls himself an Israelite...Philippians 3:5...circumcised on the eighth day, of the people of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews....
and Yeshua?
Yeshua was also an Israelite, circumcised on the eight day.
Yeshua was also an Israelite, circumcised on the eight day.
New Covenant
When the disciples received the Holy Ghost in Acts 2, what was the reference to Joel about? And what about the part in the last verse (2:21) “that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved?”
Acts 2:16-21: “But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel. And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come: And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
Has there been any era where that has happened? Joel chapter 1 speaks about the devastation of the earth and the Day of the Lord (Future events).
Then Joel 2 ends with: 31: “The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.” 32: “And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.”
Many say we are already in God’s new covenant that was prophesied in the OT and in Acts/Hebrews.
Heb. 8:7-13 “For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second. For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.”
Jer. 31:31-34 “Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.”
Do you see the direct link between Jeremiah and Hebrews? What about the parallels in Acts and Joel?
Acts 2:16-18 “But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:”
First a time frame in Joel: Joel 2:1 “Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand;”
Next, it speaks of a restoration after the Day of the Lord. Then we are given a picture of the new covenant: Joel 2:28, 29 “And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.”
What can we conclude from this? What we have today is not the New Covenant God was talking about. Not yet. The way I read that is everyone that calls on the Lord will have salvation. Surely, that is not today. So, ask yourself: when is it?
Paul calls himself an Israelite...Philippians 3:5...circumcised on the eighth day, of the people of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews....
And Sephardim? And Mizrahim? What "Judaism" do THEY keep? Where are the other 10 tribes? Judah and Benyamin were left. Paul calls himself a Jew, yet he was from the tribe of Benyamin. Yeshua Himself was a Jew from Judah...So Yeshua is not part of the original religion God gave to all Israel at Sinai??
In Roman's 4 Paul is following up on his teaching the Romans about the Mainstream God of Abraham preachers of his time.
Rom. 3:1 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?
2 Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.
3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?
4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
So Paul is speaking about the Jews and their "Unbelief" in God's Word. Did their unbelief make God's Word void? No, let God be true and let men who don't believe HIS Words, become liars.
25. Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
What I am trying to point out is that from Moses to Jesus there was a "LAW" which addressed "remission of sins" or forgiveness, or atonement. It included various Priesthood "works" which were required, by law, before sins could be forgiven. These "Works of the Law" were ADDED "because of transgressions" according to Paul in Galatians, some 430 years after Abraham.
26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
I asked once, "what Law did God give Moses for the atonement of sins"?
Why would anyone refuse to answer such a basic question?
Rom. 4: What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found? 2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God. 3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
Was Abraham justified by the Law of Atonement God gave to Moses? No, it wasn't "ADDED" until 430 years later.
And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
Abraham had God's Judgments, Statutes, Commandments and Laws.
Did Paul called himself a Jew?Yes, Paul numbered himself among the Jews, because he was born of the tribe of Benjamin.
Many of my Christian brethren get confused about that when they learn the word 'Jew' originates from the tribe of Judah, so how could Paul call himself a Jew having been born of the tribe of Benjamin? It's because many brethren don't study their Old Testament Bible history why they don't understand that.
After Solomon's days, God split old Israel into two separate kingdoms (1 Kings 11 forward). He gave ten tribes to Jeroboam who was of the tribe of Ephraim. The southern kingdom was made up of the tribes of Judah and Benjamin, which is where Paul's connection as a Jew comes from, even though he was born of the tribe of Benjamin.
It was mostly the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, and Levi, along with foreigners who went captive to Babylon with them that returned to Jerusalem after the 70 years Babylon captivity (Ezra 2). And it was only a remnant of them, the majority of them chose to stay in Babylon because of how God had taken care of them there.