The most dreaded situation... (sigh)

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Thankfully, this is NOT the case. I suppose I am just venting my frustration about attending funerals (and even viewings) in general. Chevyontheriver pretty well summed it up as:



It's just hard to listen quietly when everything IN me wants to shout, "It didn't have to BE this way! For THEM, it is too late, but for YOU (the living), there is still time!"

Related note: One of my professors commented about his approach to preaching funerals thus:

"Avoid the understandable desire to over emphasize the present happiness of the recently departed saint. Instead, always and only preach Christ, Him crucified, raised, ascended and returning in glory. Let me explain why:

A dear saint passed in a church I pastored, and I simply preached Christ, without going into her current "state of bliss". The following month, her husband passed as well. He was well known as a drunkard, a carouser, a violent and scourge of a man. At his funeral, I preached essentially the same message I had given previously at his saintly wife's funeral.

How would it have appeared to the survivors if I had gone on and on about how she was enjoying the blessings of heaven the first time, but remained totally silent regarding Paradise when I spoke the later to the same crowd?

I've never forgotten that admonition.
Hopefully there was a noticable difference in the tone and atmosphere of those funerals.

Many Christian funeral, while tinged with sadness at the loss of a brother/sister are also full of the joy of knowing they are save with their Lord.

The non christian funerals have only loss and a pie in the shy hope that no one really believes but hopes.
 
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I don't see anything wrong with saying that the deceased is in the hands of a loving, compassionate God, and that you're confident that He'll take care of her.

That's a strong reassurance to someone already predisposed to believing that God will "take care of her" in a good way, and yet you haven't lied. Besides that, you really don't know the person's relationship with the Lord the moments right before death. Maybe He talked to her and she repented. There is hope there, too.
 
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Well, here I am again, facing the one situation I dread more than just about anything else. I'd rather have the flu or diahrea or even be forced to watch back-to-back reruns of “The View” than deal with what I'm looking at. You'd think that, being a Christian for over forty years, I'd have developed some strategy or pat answer for this, but I haven't. In fact, I was ordained with the Churches Of Christ in Christian Union (think Nazarene or Wesleyan) last summer, but even that's not making it any easier. If anything, it's just getting tougher each time...

Someone has died.

It wasn't someone I even knew. Actually it was the mother of a woman my wife has known for several years, but isn't terribly close with. Her friend was a Christian several years ago, but has “fallen away from her first love”, and now attends a very liberal and “affirming” church. (Don't EVEN get me going on THAT one, that's a whole 'nuther issue...) But the point is, her mother has passed, rather quickly, though not totally unexpected, as she was (I believe) in her eighties. So there will be a viewing and a funeral, hence my situation.

You see, when someone passes who clearly loved God and gave clear testimony of their faith, we can celebrate their “Promotion” as it were, and offer assurance and comfort, even to any “unchurched” friends or relatives that the person truly IS “...in a better place.” But once more I expect that I will find myself pressured to reassure this woman that, not only is her mother “not suffering”, but that she is, in fact, being welcomed by St. Peter as we speak and will be escorted to a mansion, handed a harp, and blissfully happy throughout all of eternity. Please pardon my thinly veiled sarcasm... It's not that I treat this matter lightly, quite the contrary, to me it is the most important issue of ALL, because the situation is both eternal and unchangable. And THAT is exactly the crux of my problem...

Now is not the time for evangelism. Everybody is grieving, and “nobody wants to hear about 'hellfire and brimstone' now!” I get that. But when things were going well, nobody wanted to hear it THEN because, “Well, religion is a PERSONAL matter, so you should just keep that to yourself!” So when WAS the time to talk about a biblical perspective on death??? And what the heck do you say NOW, when it IS too late to affect her eternal state? And those who are still alive, who could (and SHOULD) make spiritual decisions just don't want to feel “pressured” at this time. No, what they want is somebody “religious” to tell them that “Edna (or Martha or Paulette, or WHATEVER her name was) is really ok right now, and when THEIR time comes (which won't be for YEARS, right?), they will be ok too!”

So here's the bottom line; Scripture tells us that “It is appointed ONCE for a man to die, and then Judgement.” (Heb 9:27) That means, no reincarnation, but an accounting before all knowing Deity for the life they have lived, followed by an adjudication, and a resulting PERMANENT condition. And, from my conservative Wesleyan-Arminean, this is NOT, “Do my good deeds outweigh my bad ones?”, but plain and simple, “Did the departed have a current and vital faith relationship with Jesus Christ, trusting Him and Him alone for their salvation?” As both a Christian AND a minister, I don't feel that I can just stand there passively while people say a bunch of things that simply aren't so. “She was baptised as an infant, so of COURSE she went to heaven.” (Really?) “Everybody goes to heaven, because God loves everybody, and He wouldn't send anybody to hell, if it even exists at ALL!” (That's not what Jesus said, now IS it?)

I've had a couple of pastors tell me, “Tell them, 'Your loved one is in the hands of a loving and compassionate God', and then say no more. It's not for you to judge.” Well, I see the wisdom of that, since (obviously) I don't know the persons spiritual condition, and even if I did, it STILL isn't my call. But it just seems a bit “thin”. Many are looking for comfort, and I don't see what I can offer to the family that MAYBE shows up at church on Easter Sunday, but really doesn't have time for God the other 51 weeks of the year. And even less so when the deceased gave no evidence of interest in spiritual matters, or perhaps even displayed hostility towards God. It's too late to do anything about it now (for THEM certainly), and like I said, I have a VERY hard time listening as people invoke what I would term “folk theology” to convince themselves that what the Bible say about the issue of an afterlife can be dismissed or “reworked” to suit the listeners.

So my question is this: What do YOU say when someone CLEARLY not a believer in Christ has died, and mourners want to hear you say good things (or at least, agree with the false things they are asserting), to paint a rosie eternity, without “getting preachy” about it?

Christ clearly came and gave His life so that we might receive eternal life, neither fearing nor dreading this event. But unbelievers (perhaps ESPECIALLY) seem to be grasping at straws as they sense that there is a finality here, and they desperately need reassurance that, DESPITE all evidence to the contrary and any biblical knowledge they may possess, there is yet hope that the deceased is at peace, rather than suffering torment.

God is going to have to give me MUCH grace and wisdom, but I just dread this all to often occurence. Thoughts and suggestions to offer some hope without agreeing (directly or by tacit approval through silence) with "folk theology"?

Maranatha.

I tell them the person is in God's hands and He knows their heart. Remind them of His great love for the deceased (regardless) and of those left behind to mourn. His yoke is easy; his burden light. It's an opportunity to discuss God's love for all of us. Let them make their own assumptions; just say God knew them before the foundation of the world (true) and he knows every hair on their head (true) and how much they were loved (true). It's an open door to bring Jesus to everybody they left behind and I PROMISE YOU that no matter where they ended up, THAT'S WHAT THEY WOULD WANT. :) God bless.
 
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You are called upon to offer comfort to those who are grieving.
Can you not offer the love and compassion of Christ to those who are hurting?

Isn't it really this simple?
You should not browbeat people at a funeral. I have seen it done, and it is terribly distasteful. Can you not simply proclaim the Hope that is in Christ in a loving way?

As for the person who has died, you are not the judge.
You are not!
You can only commend that person's soul into the hands of God.
And the same is true for every one of us.
We are no different.

Remember the men who were crucified with Christ?
One remained evil and suffered punishment. But the other confessed Christ with his dying breath and was saved.
Would you condemn both of them? Jesus did not.
Therefore, we cannot judge - because we do not know the whole circumstances of a person's life. We can only commend their soul into God's hands.

these thoughts are offered with kindness, and not with criticism.
 
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