The Most Dangerous Drug Of The Times that kills you sweetly

[Sam Benson]

Is there a limit on how much you can consume it?

It is recommended by Doctors all over the world: Diabetics intake of sucrose:
Two serves o fruit a day, pref. Kiwi fruit and Papaya. NO Processed sugar

 

[morse86]

Sugar is biblical. Sugar is not the problem. It's artificial ingredients and corporate "food" that causes problems. Too many people look at the macros...but they don't look at the ingredients list.

From the farm to the plate, you don't know what kind of "processing" took place. That's why society should based on agriculture first, there are not enough real farmers left....only corporate farmers.

 

[morse86]

It is recommended by Doctors all over the world: Diabetics intake of sucrose:
Two serves o fruit a day, pref. Kiwi fruit and Papaya. NO Processed sugar

Would this be the same doctors that advised to eat margarines instead of real butter for decades and caused a heart disease epidemic?

 

[bhsmte]

Sugar is biblical. Sugar is not the problem. It's artificial ingredients and corporate "food" that causes problems. Too many people look at the macros...but they don't look at the ingredients list.

From the farm to the plate, you don't know what kind of "processing" took place. That's why society should based on agriculture first, there are not enough real farmers left....only corporate farmers.

Sugar is a huge problem for sedentary people and especially so if they are overweight. Sugar is not so big a problem for very active people. We know exactly what happens physiologically when sugar is consumed and have for a long time.

 

[morse86]

Most sedentary people have a metabolic expenditure of about 1600-2000 calories. The problem is not sugar, it's the fact that food has become ubiquitous. No longer is meal time special and something to look forward to when the average person is snacking all day. If you look at Europe, you'll see the size of an espresso and piece of pie are very small compared to the american starbucks portions.

If you cook majority of your food and ensure it's whole foods, it's pretty hard to reach 2000 calories.

Also, in a healthy person, insulin will easily take care of excess sugar (doesn't mean you should tax that system all the time). The problem is when you "extract" the sugar from nature into derivatives, for an example, fructose. Fruits have fructose and it has never caused an issue. However, fructose by itself, like in most junkfood, can cause liver disease.

 

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The leading cause of death remains being born. Everyone that has consumed air, food in any form or water either has or will die.

 

[bhsmte]

Most sedentary people have a metabolic expenditure of about 1600-2000 calories. The problem is not sugar, it's the fact that food has become ubiquitous. No longer is meal time special and something to look forward to when the average person is snacking all day. If you look at Europe, you'll see the size of an espresso and piece of pie are very small compared to the american starbucks portions.

If you cook majority of your food and ensure it's whole foods, it's pretty hard to reach 2000 calories.

Also, in a healthy person, insulin will easily take care of excess sugar (doesn't mean you should tax that system all the time). The problem is when you "extract" the sugar from nature into derivatives, for an example, fructose. Fruits have fructose and it has never caused an issue. However, fructose by itself, like in most junkfood, can cause liver disease.

The more sedentary one is, the less sensitive you become to insulin and this is magnified, by being overweight.

For these folks, sugar is a problem.

 

[morse86]

The more sedentary one is, the less sensitive you become to insulin and this is magnified, by being overweight.

For these folks, sugar is a problem.

There are many sedentary people that are not overweight. If you fast for long periods, you will become less sensitive to insulin too (temporary as ketones are metabolized instead) ....does that mean fasting is bad?!?!?!?

You must take it in context. Calories in = Calories out (not 100% equal but equal within range).

If an overweight sedentary person consumes less than there metabolic expenditure, they will lose weight and fix their insulin resistance.

Sugar is not the problem, the problem is junk food.

You don't need insulin to become overweight. Fat can do it easy. Do you think if you overeat fat it magically disappears?

 

[bhsmte]

There are many sedentary people that are not overweight. If you fast for long periods, you will become less sensitive to insulin too (temporary as ketones are metabolized instead) ....does that mean fasting is bad?!?!?!?

You must take it in context. Calories in = Calories out (not 100% equal but equal within range).

If an overweight sedentary person consumes less than there metabolic expenditure, they will lose weight and fix their insulin resistance.

Sugar is not the problem, the problem is junk food.

You don't need insulin to become overweight. Fat can do it easy. Do you think if you overeat fat it magically disappears?

Fasting actually increases sensitivity to insulin, so you have that backwards. Exercise also increases sensitivity to insulin.

Here is the problem with higher intakes of sugar and a sedentary lifestyle. Sugar promotes insulin release to a higher level than any other nutrient. Insulin's job is to grab glucose out of the blood stream, for storage. And guess what, in sedentary folks, that don't require high glycogen stores to fuel exercise, tend to store this sugar in one place - FAT.

After that glucose is pulled out of the blood by the insulin, blood sugar drops and appetite increases to take in more glucose. It is a vicious cycle.

Protein and fat, don't have the same insulin response as sugar and that is reality.

 

[morse86]

Fasting actually increases sensitivity to insulin, so you have that backwards. Exercise also increases sensitivity to insulin.

Here is the problem with higher intakes of sugar and a sedentary lifestyle. Sugar promotes insulin release to a higher level than any other nutrient. Insulin's job is to grab glucose out of the blood stream, for storage. And guess what, in sedentary folks, that don't require high glycogen stores to fuel exercise, tend to store this sugar in one place - FAT.

After that glucose is pulled out of the blood by the insulin, blood sugar drops and appetite increases to take in more glucose. It is a vicious cycle.

Protein and fat, don't have the same insulin response as sugar and that is reality.

No, you got it backwards and wrong. Fasting decreases insulin sensitivity (temporarily) so that the brain cells can use the glucose instead of muscle cells etc. Some cells are unable to use ketones and can only use glucose.

Exercise increases sensitivity because you're building muscles (more glucose can be absorbed) etc.

Excess sugar and fat are stored the same way after "processing". Excess sugar is sent to the liver to be processed into VLDL and finally stored in adipose tissue. Most fat is also sent straight to adipose tissue.

When insulin drops, it doesn't magically create appetite. When insulin drops, leptin takes over and is able to regular using fat stores. Without insulin, certain vitamins (vitamin C for an example) and hormones cannot even be processed, it is a very important hormone.

You don't seem to get it. Excess of sugar or fat is what WILL cause weight increase. There is NO WAY AROUND IT.

 

[bhsmte]

No, you got it backwards and wrong. Fasting decreases insulin sensitivity (temporarily) so that the brain cells can use the glucose instead of muscle cells etc. Some cells are unable to use ketones and can only use glucose.

Exercise increases sensitivity because you're building muscles (more glucose can be absorbed) etc.

Excess sugar and fat are stored the same way after "processing". Excess sugar is sent to the liver to be processed into VLDL and finally stored in adipose tissue. Most fat is also sent straight to adipose tissue.

When insulin drops, it doesn't magically create appetite. When insulin drops, leptin takes over and is able to regular using fat stores. Without insulin, certain vitamins (vitamin C for an example) and hormones cannot even be processed, it is a very important hormone.

You don't seem to get it. Excess of sugar or fat is what WILL cause weight increase. There is NO WAY AROUND IT.

Wrong again.

Fasting reduces insulin resistance (increases sensitivity).

10 Evidence-Based Health Benefits of Intermittent Fasting

 

[morse86]

You don't understand how the biomechanism works. Fasting decreases insulin sensitivity (you can measure this in Keto diets). Fasting also depletes glycogen stores. When you finish the fast and eat carbs, those glycogen stores need to be refilled....OF COURSE it's going to increase insulin sensitivity in order to do that.

If you continue to "carb spillover" eat junk food, it's going to decrease insulin sensitivity again.

The point is, sugar is not the problem and not the cause of weight gain. It's junk food.

 

[bhsmte]

You don't understand how the biomechanism works. Fasting decreases insulin sensitivity (you can measure this in Keto diets). Fasting also depletes glycogen stores. When you finish the fast and eat carbs, those glycogen stores need to be refilled....OF COURSE it's going to increase insulin sensitivity in order to do that.

If you continue to "carb spillover" eat junk food, it's going to decrease insulin sensitivity again.

The point is, sugar is not the problem and not the cause of weight gain. It's junk food.

I understand the mechanisms well and my graduate degree in human physiology helps.

 

[morse86]

Then you ought to know the bio mechanism (at least one of the) of how fasting really increases insulin sensitivity.

If someone fasts but keeps overeating calories, it will be useless.

That's why I said it's not sugar. It's our view of food and agriculture: Junk Food, How food is processed, Farming practices. These matter more than tunnel vision focusing on sugar.