The Meaning of the Heavens Will be Rolled up Like a Scroll

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So God creates and stretches the heavens out like a curtain in the beginning then roll them up like a scroll at the end . All the physical and natural will disappear back to the supernatural existence where time is no longer a factor .. What's the saying at closing time "You don't have to go home but you can't stay here" ^_^
 
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So God creates and stretches the heavens out like a curtain in the beginning then roll them up like a scroll at the end . All the physical and natural will disappear back to the supernatural existence where time is no longer a factor .. What's the saying at closing time "You don't have to go home but you can't stay here" ^_^

Its interesting that you would mention God stretching the heavens out like a curtain in the beginning. Indeed this was so, which was called the firmament, which had water above it, a layer of ice actually in accordance to Ezekiel. I have a different on this here The Firmament of Ice and the Water from the Great Flood | Wisdom of God .
 
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It could mean that when Christ returns there will be an opening in the sky or heavens that will emit rays of light that Christ and the angels will eminate and manifest from and once he takes all those that he is going to take with him, they will all be caught up together into that light, back into the opening, the opening will close and retreat and fly away or seem to blast away from us (thos eleft behind) at high speed like a scroll being rolled up and put/taken away...

(Maybe...?) (possible theory anyway...)

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This study explains what it means that the "sky will be rolled up like a scroll".

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Its interesting that you would mention God stretching the heavens out like a curtain in the beginning. Indeed this was so, which was called the firmament, which had water above it, a layer of ice actually in accordance to Ezekiel. I have a different on this here The Firmament of Ice and the Water from the Great Flood | Wisdom of God .

Your thoughts on Earth possibly being set on it's current tilt on axis at the onset of the great flood to collapse the pre-flood firmament to low pressure and first rain .. Then to drain off the flood waters back under Earths mantle .. Recent discovery says there's 2 or 3 times more water under Earths crust than all the water in the oceans .. At the end time Earth will began to wobble like a drunkard and cause the oceans to be tossed around
 
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This study explains what it means that the "sky will be rolled up like a scroll". The study can be found in English here The Meaning of the Heavens Will be Rolled up Like a Scroll | Wisdom of God or in Spanish here El Significado De los Cielos Serán Enrollados Como un Pergamino | Sabiduria de Dios . Let us begin a discussion on these matters.

I believe that this scripture is what John saw. He did not understand what He was seeing so He could only describe it using the understanding He had..

I believe this is what will happen when a meteor which will end up being called Wormwood will strike the earth. It will land in the sea and the huge amount of debris that will be thrown up in the atmosphere will roll across the sky like a blanket traveling to the horizon darkening the land where John was viewing it from..

This same meteor strike will also cause the great earthquake ( the greatest ever experienced by mankind ) spoken of it the book of Revelation and it will also cause the rain of fire and brimstone that shall rain down on a third of the planet earth and burn up a third of the land and make as blood a third of the seas..
 
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I believe that this scripture is what John saw. He did not understand what He was seeing so He could only describe it using the understanding He had..

I believe this is what will happen when a meteor which will end up being called Wormwood will strike the earth. It will land in the sea and the huge amount of debris that will be thrown up in the atmosphere will roll across the sky like a blanket traveling to the horizon darkening the land where John was viewing it from..

This same meteor strike will also cause the great earthquake ( the greatest ever experienced by mankind ) spoken of it the book of Revelation and it will also cause the rain of fire and brimstone that shall rain down on a third of the planet earth and burn up a third of the land and make as blood a third of the seas..

No. The sky will be rolled up like a scroll before the trumpet blast that relates to Wormwood and the water it poisons.
 
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And men will beg for the rocks to fall on them and die

It's probably something on a much bigger scale. The related scriptures say, a dark cloud will cover the whole Earth. and people will be running into caves.

This is probably a very large impact from an asteroid or comet. End of the world.
 
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I believe that this scripture is what John saw. He did not understand what He was seeing so He could only describe it using the understanding He had..

I believe this is what will happen when a meteor which will end up being called Wormwood will strike the earth. It will land in the sea and the huge amount of debris that will be thrown up in the atmosphere will roll across the sky like a blanket traveling to the horizon darkening the land where John was viewing it from..

This same meteor strike will also cause the great earthquake ( the greatest ever experienced by mankind ) spoken of it the book of Revelation and it will also cause the rain of fire and brimstone that shall rain down on a third of the planet earth and burn up a third of the land and make as blood a third of the seas..

Do you think Wormwood could be the four nuclear reactor meltdowns on going at Fukushima ? And Chernoble is translated Wormwood
 
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It's probably something on a much bigger scale. The related scriptures say, a dark cloud will cover the whole Earth. and people will be running into caves.

This is probably a very large impact from an asteroid or comet. End of the world.
Or multiple nuclear weapons being used globally would do the same thing, enough of them... But, that will be for those left behind after the rapture and before his and our (those raptured out)s return...

All the stars and heaven that we see could be rolled up into that one point of light that creates and opening from which Jesus and the hosts of heaven come out of at the rapture or after the rapture upon their return...

Anyhow, this reality is more than likely a simulation of their's and could all just all of the sudden be wrapped up into a single point of light, that goes away from the earth after being wrapped or rolled up like a scroll, considering the fact that it's all, all of it, is more than likely a simulation or illusion, is is highly probable that could all just disappear and be wrapped or rolled up into a single point of light that then leaves the rest of us left behind maybe...

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No. The sky will be rolled up like a scroll before the trumpet blast that relates to Wormwood and the water it poisons.

Revelation 8 KJV
And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;

Revelation 16 KJV
18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.

19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.

21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.

Again the Meteor described by John as a great mountain burning with fire being cast into the sea.. is revealed in Revelation 8 while the description of the greatest earthquake mankind will ever experience is described in Revelation 16... Which also describes the shower of stones from the heavens that happens at around the same time Which is the rubble that was ejected by the impact into near earth orbit being pulled back down to earth by gravity causing a great shower of stones.. Which would look to john as a millions of falling starts and so he describes the event as all the starts in heavens falling at one time..

Revelation 16 KJV
13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

A nuclear detonation does not cause such a phenomenon.. But a mass re-entry of ejected rubble from a meteor impact could indeed cause such an effect to appear to John to be all the starts falling from heaven together..

I believe John had more then one vision of the same event but from different perspectives.. One where He witnessed the impact and one where He witness the effect on the world of that impact and one from the perspective of the Jerusalem.
 
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Do you think Wormwood could be the four nuclear reactor meltdowns on going at Fukushima ? And Chernoble is translated Wormwood

I think that evil spirits do inspire people who are in rebellion against God to name certain things with a word like Chernobyl which does translate as wormwood because these spirits want to bring confusion and muddy the waters to bring about a false fulfillment of Prophecy to aid the coming anti-christ in the great end times deception.. I believe that deception will be centered on the claim that the anti-christ will claim that he is the promised messiah for the Jews and the returned messiah of the Christians.. And he will deceive many with lying signs and wonders.. And he will demand to be worshiped as God on earth.. I believe the anti-christ be be a great leader who shall fight and win a world war and this will also play a part in the deception because people will be lead to believe that this war was the battle of Armageddon..

Ephesians 2 KJV
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

2 Thessalonians 2 KJV
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
 
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I think that evil spirits do inspire people who are in rebellion against God to name certain things with a word like Chernobyl which does translate as wormwood because these spirits want to bring confusion and muddy the waters to bring about a false fulfillment of Prophecy to aid the coming anti-christ in the great end times deception.. I believe that deception will be centered on the claim that the anti-christ will claim that he is the promised messiah for the Jews and the returned messiah of the Christians.. And he will deceive many with lying signs and wonders.. And he will demand to be worshiped as God on earth.. I believe the anti-christ be be a great leader who shall fight and win a world war and this will also play a part in the deception because people will be lead to believe that this war was the battle of Armageddon..

Ephesians 2 KJV
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

2 Thessalonians 2 KJV
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
How does that fit into 1 John 2:22 and 2 John 1:7...?

Excellent post and theory, but how does it fit with those scriptures...?

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I think that evil spirits do inspire people who are in rebellion against God to name certain things with a word like Chernobyl which does translate as wormwood because these spirits want to bring confusion and muddy the waters to bring about a false fulfillment of Prophecy to aid the coming anti-christ in the great end times deception.. I believe that deception will be centered on the claim that the anti-christ will claim that he is the promised messiah for the Jews and the returned messiah of the Christians.. And he will deceive many with lying signs and wonders.. And he will demand to be worshiped as God on earth.. I believe the anti-christ be be a great leader who shall fight and win a world war and this will also play a part in the deception because people will be lead to believe that this war was the battle of Armageddon..

Ephesians 2 KJV
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

2 Thessalonians 2 KJV
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Well many have believed Darwin, a strong delusion imo, there seems to be a lot of alien talk buzzing around , another probable delusion with technology including 3-D holograms and projections , the NWO and dividing the world into ten zones under one authority .. Talk and existence of implantable chips with forcing of buying and selling under total control from satanic head quarters . Like these guys Judges 7:5-7 we have to keep watch and ready for the revealing of end time prophecy fulfillment .. And we know God will give grace for those who have hope to endure at the proper time no matter ..
 
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How does that fit into 1 John 2:22 and 2 John 1:7...?

Excellent post and theory, but how does it fit with those scriptures...?

Peace,

God Bless!

Yes there are many anti-christs in this world. But their is also the Main Anti-christ also called the wicked one that will come in the end times.. We see this clearly spelt out in the verse below..

1 John 2 KJV
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

So that antichrist is pointing to one particular antichrist who they had been told was going to come..

But at the same time that there are many antichrists who are of the same spirit as that particular antichrist.. There where such people around in the days of John..
 
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Well many have believed Darwin, a strong delusion imo, there seems to be a lot of alien talk buzzing around , another probable delusion with technology including 3-D holograms and projections , the NWO and dividing the world into ten zones under one authority .. Talk and existence of implantable chips with forcing of buying and selling under total control from satanic head quarters . Like these guys Judges 7:5-7 we have to keep watch and ready for the revealing of end time prophecy fulfillment .. And we know God will give grace for those who have hope to endure at the proper time no matter ..

Yes i have read about those things you have mentioned.. And yes i agree we need to keep our eyes open and keep believing the teachings of our LORD Jesus Christ... When the time comes those who are indwelled by His Holy Spirit will be given understanding and will not be fooled by the great deception.. And those who reject the love of His truth , the Gospel, will be given over to strong delusions and they will believe the lie and will be doomed to condemnation..
 
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