I refer to biblical verses that infer headship - that is, Leading within marriage; leading within formal religious settings, particularly within the clergy. Some would also argue that a woman should not lead a man within wider circles inclusive of secular sections of society.Lead in which way?
What do you think about the whole idea that it must be a man that leads the woman. How important is that to you? Or is it just an outdated idea.
Hey EllaI was raised attending churches where there are wonderfully knowledgeable female ministers using their God-given talents to cultivate faith and lead congregants, with parents who are co-leaders, and went to a Christian school for girls headed by admirable women. I actually wasn't aware that it was considered to be controversial for women to be pastors until I joined this forum, and had a vastly different understanding of what leadership and submission in a loving, respectful relationship entails. We studied the word submission, which was first recorded in English in the 1500s, and how it contrasts to the original translations of scripture.
I think leadership should be based on context rather than gender in all professional settings. The one with the expertise and the necessary interrelation skills is the more ideal leader.
In a relationship, I believe both should have areas where they lead, and where they defer. They should be amenable, willing to submit at times out of harmony and respect.
Have you ever read Rachel Held Evans? She's written some insightful posts about relationship roles.
Submission in Context: Christ and the Greco-Roman Household Codes
It’s not complementarianism; it’s patriarchy
No this isnt what I askFor the same reason I believe in male clergy, the verse I cited. To me it doesn't seem like it can be interpreted any other way than as setting males as the religious authority in the majority of circumstances. I don't mean women can't learn for themselves the things of God or anything, just that if anyone's outright teaching the Scriptures it should be a male if possible. But the Bible clearly commands that man and woman be an equal, mutually affectionate, singular flesh in regards to marriage and the family. So I don't see a precedent for male authority in regards to religious affairs needing to cross over into the position of man and woman in other contexts.
No this isnt what I ask
Your answer is stating what St Paul says or referring to a verse from Timothy
I asked why its YOUR view that women may not lead - NOT simply - well this is what I thought St Paul means... why do YOU think a woman cannot lead within marriage, religion or commerce.... Im interested in your opinion not someone else's from 2000 years ago.
And when you reply, describe what it is you believe about women that makes them totally incapable in your opinion - Its good for the teenage females here to understand what teen guys are saying about them.
HiI don't have a personal opinion on the matter of clergy and I don't really think anyone has a right to a personal opinion on such a matter. And I specifically said men and women should be completely equal outside of religious matters. I have never said I see women as incapable. I merely reserve the position of pastor or teacher in a church to men, because Christian churches should adhere to the regulations of the Christian Bible.
I don't plan to rule over my girlfriend or wife in the future and don't believe that's what one is supposed to do, if that's what you're thinking.