'The LORD is my Shepherd!'

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The point is,our goodness is to be found in Christ. 'He died to make us good that we might go at last to heaven saved by His precious Blood'. Good sheep follow the Shepherd not in their own goodness but in the goodness He bestows'. We follow on.
 
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Corrie ten Boom pointed out clearly that there is one kind of man God cannot help:

"a good man".

i.e. there are no "good sheep".

Faithful sheep, yes. Obedient sheep, yes . (both rare,btw).

But good sheep, no. According to Scripture. (regarding YHWH'S use of "good")

"Good" carries with it as part of its definition something intrinsic, or separate and different from "Faithful" and "Obedient" and "Perfect" ...
 
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The Psalmist said,'The steps of a good man are ordered by the LORD'
Who put the word "good" in there ?
In several translations on biblegateway.com, it is shown to be an 'added' word not in the original.

Psalm 37:23
KJ21
The steps of a good man are ordered by the Lord, and He delighteth in his way.
ASV
A man’s goings are established of Jehovah; And he delighteth in his way.
AMP
The steps of a [good and righteous] man are directed and established by the Lord, And He delights in his way [and blesses his path].
AMPC
The steps of a [good] man are directed and established by the Lord when He delights in his way [and He busies Himself with his every step].
BRG
The steps of a good man are ordered by the Lord: and he delighteth in his way.
CSB
A person’s steps are established by the Lord, and he takes pleasure in his way.
CEB
A person’s steps are made secure by the Lord when they delight in his way.
CJB
Adonai directs a person’s steps, and he delights in his way.
 
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((I know and have known a few men who are righteous (and declared by YHWH righteous) and lead or had blameless and holy lives.
but I don't know anyone who is "good" )) (Biblically, confirmed as Jesus says)

Mankind's words and uses and definitions vary (are different ) from Scripture,
even in some translations are often misunderstood.

YHWH is Perfect in every Way, in Judgment and in Mercy, and in all of His Words.
 
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A man's goodness is to be found in Christ. He wants us to be good sheep not bad. It is His goodness in us that makes us good. Disobedient,that is bad sheep go astray. Good sheep follow the Shepherd. Good sheep are made so by Christ.
 
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A man's goodness is to be found in Christ. He wants us to be good sheep not bad. It is His goodness in us that makes us good. Disobedient,that is bad sheep go astray. Good sheep follow the Shepherd. Good sheep are made so by Christ.
Yes,
that is all good and true,
in colloquial language used here and today.

But it misses some of the points YHWH and JESUS make in Scripture.

"YHWH looked from heaven, to see if HE could find anyone good, and HE FOUND NOT ONE".... for example.....

There is none good but God. This is unchangeably true, as Jesus said it.

Changing the meaning or use of the word "good" leads to other fallacies down the road, sooner or later,
while sticking with the plain Scripture , believing Scripture is good and true always,
to learn from YHWH,
leads to life and righteousness.

For instance: do you know a righteous man alive today ? do you know a good man ? (Scriptural meaning of "good") do you know a holy man alive on earth today ? (real questions, most people cannot answer)

Yes, I realize it seems nitpicky. No worries. That is good. :)
 
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Our goodness is only in Christ. He makes us good. He makes us righteous. He makes us worthy. He makes us obedient. He makes us clean. There is none good outside of Him. He makes good.
 
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Be that new person who was made to be like God, truly good and pleasing to him.

Ephesians 4:24
to ·become [put on; clothe yourself with] the new ·self [L person; or Man; C become like Christ]. That new person is created ·to be like God [or in God’s image; L according to God]—truly good and holy [or in the righteousness and holiness that comes from truth].

Yes, there is a way to be good.... to be righteous.... to be holy ..... to be obedient..... to obey all God's commandments...... as His Word Says.

By faith and trust, relying on Him. i.e. not of ourselves, but still completely willingly, with active living faith - willingly obedient to do all He Says to DO.

I think Pentacostal Churches officially were the only ones to do good in Germany when Hitler was rising in power - they were "officially" (subject to verification)
the only churches to oppose his brutality and oppression BEFORE it was seen publically - during his deception of the country and his increase in power.
 
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As the hymn says,'There is a way for man to rise to that sublime abode; An offering and a sacrifice,a Holy Spirit's energies,an advocate with God'. God bless dear 'YeshuaslaveJeff'
 
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A man's goodness is to be found in Christ. He wants us to be good sheep not bad. It is His goodness in us that makes us good. Disobedient,that is bad sheep go astray. Good sheep follow the Shepherd. Good sheep are made so by Christ.
...that is so good, quietbloke, you always make everything so straight forward
 
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I've bought another book..from a lovely little bookshop in Criccieth, North Wales...Max Lucado 'Safe in the Shepherd's Arms'
He Makes Me to lie down in Green Pastures
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Nestle deeply in the tall shoots of love,
And there
You will find rest.
 
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I've bought another book..from a lovely little bookshop in Criccieth, North Wales...Max Lucado 'Safe in the Shepherd's Arms'
He Makes Me to lie down in Green Pastures
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Nestle deeply in the tall shoots of love,
And there
You will find rest.
Looking forward to thoughts from it
 
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Unfortunately, sheep cannot find safe pasture, nor can they spray insecticide, ...they need help...they need a shepherd, without a shepherd they can't rest...

Such a wonderful Psalm, and so much more to learn....

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Peace be with you, 'Just' QuietBloke.

The Psalmist said,'The steps of a good man are ordered by the LORD'

Amen.

Praise the Lord for laying steps of Goodness and Love through QuietBloke the 'Just' for me to follow.

Blessed be the Lord for His Eternal Goodness and Love.

Hail to the Mighty King of Love and Forgiveness, Jesus Christ!

Alleluia.

God bless you.
 
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