• Welcome to Christian Forums
  1. Welcome to Christian Forums, a forum to discuss Christianity in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

  2. The forums in the Christian Congregations category are now open only to Christian members. Please review our current Faith Groups list for information on which faith groups are considered to be Christian faiths. Christian members please remember to read the Statement of Purpose threads for each forum within Christian Congregations before posting in the forum.
  3. Please note there is a new rule regarding the posting of videos. It reads, "Post a summary of the videos you post . An exception can be made for music videos.". Unless you are simply sharing music, please post a summary, or the gist, of the video you wish to share.

The lie of the "right" regarding socialism

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by Robin Mauro, Feb 14, 2020.

  1. Robin Mauro

    Robin Mauro Well-Known Member

    633
    +331
    United States
    Christian
    Single
    Our taxes should go to the common good; not to corporate welfare.
    The question is not whether we need democratic socialism, the qesttion is if we should allow corporations to steal/privatize public resources, for pennies, and make millions/billions, as Nestle is doing with bottled water, water that God made for everyone...
    The "right" absolutely believes in socialism, only it's socialism for the rich, not for the common good.
    Socialize Costs, Privatize Profits - CounterPunch.org
     
    • Agree Agree x 12
    • Winner Winner x 2
    • Like Like x 1
    • List
    We teamed up with Faith Counseling. Can they help you today?
  2. Albion

    Albion Facilitator

    +23,442
    Anglican
    Married
    You have all the slogans of the left memorized. We can agree on that much.
     
  3. hislegacy

    hislegacy This is me.

    +7,757
    United States
    Charismatic
    Married
    US-Others
    Here's a thought - if you do not want to pay for water - don't

    That is the beauty of capitalism.
     
    • Winner Winner x 2
    • Like Like x 1
    • List
  4. Robin Mauro

    Robin Mauro Well-Known Member

    633
    +331
    United States
    Christian
    Single
    You can't respond to the facts, so this is your responce...not surprised a bit Albion
     
  5. Albion

    Albion Facilitator

    +23,442
    Anglican
    Married
    Well, try giving us some facts to respond to instead of opinions or partisan talking points, so that we have something to work with.
     
  6. Robin Mauro

    Robin Mauro Well-Known Member

    633
    +331
    United States
    Christian
    Single
    What a rediculous, uniformed response. I guess you know nothing of the privatization of water. It is not just bottled water.
    Study to show yourself approved
     
  7. ChristianForCats

    ChristianForCats Saved by Christ

    +536
    United States
    Protestant
    Single
    US-Democrat
    She did give you a fact: that God made water. He did not sell water. He gave it to us - free. So it is a sin to sell bottled water because companies are doing the opposite of what God did for greedy reasons.

    "The left" believes in giving us what we need at no cost to ourselves, just like God. I hate that term BTW. It is backwards because Jesus called the left sin and right good when he talks about the sheep and goats.
     
  8. DaisyDay

    DaisyDay blind squirrel

    +10,214
    United States
    Unitarian
    Married
    US-Others
    And you have hand-waving down to a T. Why not address the issue?
     
    • Agree Agree x 4
    • Like Like x 1
    • Optimistic Optimistic x 1
    • List
  9. Robin Mauro

    Robin Mauro Well-Known Member

    633
    +331
    United States
    Christian
    Single
    The privatization of water is a fact. The Bush's are even invested in the privatization of water for profit.
    And it is not just water; it's all the natural resources.
    Fact Albion. The "right" wants to privatze, control, and profit from all the resources that God gave us for the whole human race. That's why they demonize socialism; it cuts into their profits.
     
  10. Albion

    Albion Facilitator

    +23,442
    Anglican
    Married
    To some extent that's true. Not completely, but of course private ownership of some water resources is allowed. So is cotton, gravel, and other commodities.

    I think you have picked up some bad advice about that. First, there is no plan like you seem to want to say there is when throwing around a term like "the Right." And second, almost half of the land and resources west of the Mississippi are owned by the federal government. That approach is the bailiwick of the Socialists, not their opposite number.

    What's more, this situation is widely accepted by Americans of all political stripes. The right may want to trim back the percent of land under federal control while the left has a never-ending desire for more control, but there is no movement or crusade to change it in the way your stereotyping suggests.
     
    Last edited: Feb 14, 2020
  11. Robin Mauro

    Robin Mauro Well-Known Member

    633
    +331
    United States
    Christian
    Single
    We need a combination of private and social, but corporations get lands for pennies, and make billions while destroying environments, and get government subsidies (corporate welfare) to boot!
    And people are already being dislocated due to sea level rise.
    Global warming is real. The people telling you it's not have a vested interest in you believing it's not.
    Antarctica reaches 20º C (68º F), highest recorded temp ever on icy continent
     
  12. Larnievc

    Larnievc Well-Known Member

    +2,693
    Atheist
    Married
    UK-Labour
    But then you die.

    That’s the beauty of capitalism.
     
  13. Albion

    Albion Facilitator

    +23,442
    Anglican
    Married
    and yet the people living in free societies live much better than people living in Socialist countries. And they live longer.

    The fact is that Freedom works. It's only as a theory that Socialism appears to.
     
  14. Robin Mauro

    Robin Mauro Well-Known Member

    633
    +331
    United States
    Christian
    Single
    No kidding! A person can only live 3 or 4 days without water
     
  15. Larnievc

    Larnievc Well-Known Member

    +2,693
    Atheist
    Married
    UK-Labour
    You do know the US average death age is no longer going up like most western nations?
     
  16. Robin Mauro

    Robin Mauro Well-Known Member

    633
    +331
    United States
    Christian
    Single
    Because U.S. corporations exploit and destroy the entire planet.
    Plus, that is not true anyway Albion. People in Norway, Sweden, etc...many countries,. live quite well, and no one dies, or loses their home, because they cannot afford to see a doctor.
    Educate youself!
     
  17. Robin Mauro

    Robin Mauro Well-Known Member

    633
    +331
    United States
    Christian
    Single
    Yes, and people die, and lose their homes and their entire life savings because they cannot afford to see a doctor, in the supposedly richest nation in the world. We let people die on the streets here, so the rich can be obscenely rich
     
    Last edited: Feb 14, 2020
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
    • List
  18. Charlie24

    Charlie24 Newbie Supporter

    +559
    Baptist
    Single
    It's impossible for America to have medicare for all and remain the protector of the world.

    Socialism has no allowance for military. There will be nothing left to stand in the way of Communism.

    The rich didn't get rich by giving their money to the government, they will leave, along with the jobs they create. Now Bernie or whoever has complete and total control of the people.

    And we haven't even begun to implement the Green New Deal.

    Oh boy, where can I sign up!
     
  19. Aryeh Jay

    Aryeh Jay Veteran Supporter

    +8,787
    United States
    Married
    That is a funny example, a real funny example. I worked for Nestle until my job was sent to the Philippines in 2018. But regarding the water, we drink Nestle Ice Mountain water; I just picked up 10 cases yesterday. We have to drink Nestle water, because the public water supply stinks of Sulphur and other chemicals. Somedays it just smells like blood and farts on other days it really reeks. The lead levels are high, but the city says is within the legal limits. We only find out about fecal coliform contamination AFTER they have lowered the levels and over chlorinate the water. Please tell me how socialism will fix the problem that it created.
     
  20. Tiberius Lee

    Tiberius Lee Active Member

    393
    +559
    United States
    Calvinist
    Married
    Just one fact you are missing.. give me a name of a country where Socialism worked!
     
Loading...