"Yeah man, just what I was looking for...think I'll get drunk, go commit adultery/fornication tonight, lie/tell her I don't have any VD, and steal her money as I leave...wouldn't want to create no dangerous traffic jam, besides they all do it".
Your analogy does not apply. Just taking the very last line, "they all do it", I need to point out that it is more dangerous to go the speed limit while everyone else is speeding, than to go with the flow. What is dangerous is DIFFERENCES in speed.
An exception would be the flow of traffic being so fast that there is risk of tire sidewall failure or other such issues.
MATTHEW.23: =
23 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone. 24 Blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel!
Someone here posted that scripture, and I just wanted to point out, for the faith only crowd, this is Christ himself telling us it's all important and none of it should be left undone.
Your analogy does not apply. Just taking the very last line, "they all do it", I need to point out that it is more dangerous to go the speed limit while everyone else is speeding, than to go with the flow. What is dangerous is DIFFERENCES in speed.
An exception would be the flow of traffic being so fast that there is risk of tire sidewall failure or other such issues.
Scribes and Teachers of the Law. How can you rebuild what He destroyed? Galatians 2
Read every word of Galatians and tell me what “Get rid of the slave woman and her child”, means.
I’m waiting and listening intently...
Well, you got me. You are correct.It applies perfectly if you get what was intended.
We aren't talking speed limits here, we are talking commandments and other rules set forth by God, the big ones, and not doing those things, do not cause problems as said traffic jam indicates, not doing them prevents problems.
Point being your analogy did not apply
This is mocking Grace as if Christ were a promoter of sin.
Again... Grace isn’t a license to sin, but it is because we sin!
Please say you have a Monty Python angle!
Well, you got me. You are correct.
I don't say that we do not have to obey God to be right with Him because of Jesus' sacrifice.
I say we can't do everything God wants of us so He made a New Covenant that is not dependent on our ability to keep a set of rules.
We absolutely must trust what Jesus did for us.
He kept the law perfectly for us.
He paid our sin debt.
When we understand the immense debt we owed that He paid, this makes us love Him.
And if we love Him we will spend time with Him and He will transform us into His image and the law will be kept by Christ living in us, with no effort on our part.
Those who say that grace is a license to sin don't understand grace or the law.
The strength of sin is the law.
Grace is our teacher that teaches us to deny ungodliness and worldly lust and to live soberly, righteously and godly in this present world.
We do not need a set of rules to know what to do.
The Holy Spirit is our guide. And He knows all of the laws. Trust Him to tell you to do what is right.
Relax.
You have a point, you need to make it instead of waiting...intently.
Unbelievable.I think even the Old Testaments prophets were indicating that the Mosaic law was not of God; it was all man made. Passages saying, "thus saith the Lord", were not from God. Jesus confirmed this in rejecting the law.
I think even the Old Testaments prophets were indicating that the Mosaic law was not of God; it was all man made. Passages saying, "thus saith the Lord", were not from God. Jesus confirmed this in rejecting the law.
Not true.Yes, Joseph was married.
The New Covenant is a better way and it is a superior guide. And we should study the Word of God.If you don't need a set of rules, then why is the New Testament filled with tons of Commands?
By all rights if you were correct in what you are saying, there would be no commands in the New Testamment. But try doing a study on the commands in the New Testament and you will see otherwise.
Even ... "love" is founded upon the two greatest commandments.
To believe in Jesus is a commandment (1 John 3:23).
In other words, name me one thing that the Spirit would like for you to do as a part of God's will and is loving that is not some kind of Command.
Hebrews 7:12 can be believed in what it says plainly at face value.
It is true.
Jesus said turn the other cheek instead of an eye for an eye.
Jesus said love your enemies instead of hate your enemies.
Peter was told to eat unclean animals which was a violation of OT Law.
The animal sacrifices and the priesthood had ended with Christ's death when the temple veil was torn.
Paul says in Galatians 5:2 that if you seek to be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
Paul says we are not under the Law.
This would be the Old Law given to Israel and not all forms of Law (like God's Eternal Morals Laws after the Fall, and the Laws given to us by Jesus and His followers).
All ceremonial laws given to Israel were for Israel and they are not for the church or believers today. So commands like the Saturday Sabbath and circumcision and the dietary laws and animal sacrifices do not apply to us today (No matter how you may want that to be).
Jesus’ discourse on the Sabbath in Mark 2 illustrates the difference between legalism and being human I think
Post #45Grip Docility said:We best not be attempting to keep any law!
But earlier, you were promoting sin, ie by stating that "We best not be attempting to keep any law!"This is mocking Grace as if Christ were a promoter of sin.
Again... Grace isn’t a license to sin, but it is because we sin!
HThe New Covenant is a better way and it is a superior guide. And we should study the Word of God.
Through studying and praying we learn to know His Voice.
Somebody earlier said there were 1050 commands in the New Testament.
I am fairly good at memorizing Scripture, (there are people who have referred to me as "The walking Bible") and I don't think I will ever be able to learn 1050 commands.
But I do know His voice and I obey when I hear it.
But to focus on commands in the Word is to serve in the oldness of the letter, not in newness of the Spirit.
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