The Last 90 days of the USA

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They started predicting the end of the US and/or the world on November 5, 2008. I suspect all this will all stop mysteriously on November 10, 2016.

Depends. If a 'D' is in the next POTUS' party name, it may very well continue.

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Depends. If a 'D' is in the next POTUS' party name, it may very well continue.

-CryptoLutheran

No, there would still be partisan bickering, but all this the-president-is-the-antichrist-end-of-the-world stuff will stop.
 
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No, there would still be partisan bickering, but all this the-president-is-the-antichrist-end-of-the-world stuff will stop.

Obama is only the most recent in a long tradition of American presidents being called the Antichrist.

I very much doubt that will stop, regardless of who the next president is or what political party he/she belongs to there will always be those who are convinced utterly that they are Antichrist.

If Romney had won the last election, his Mormonism would be a basis for calling him the Antichrist. The first woman elected president will almost certainly be called Antichrist--by someone--simply on the basis that she is a woman.

Such is as American as mom and apple pie.

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Obama is only the most recent in a long tradition of American presidents being called the Antichrist.

I very much doubt that will stop, regardless of who the next president is or what political party he/she belongs to there will always be those who are convinced utterly that they are Antichrist.

If Romney had won the last election, his Mormonism would be a basis for calling him the Antichrist. The first woman elected president will almost certainly be called Antichrist--by someone--simply on the basis that she is a woman.

Such is as American as mom and apple pie.

-CryptoLutheran

The only other president I can recall being named the antichrist was Kennedy--because he was Catholic. Nobody was calling Clinton the antichrist and nobody was declaring the world or the US would come to an end because of him.

No, that claim would not have been made about Romney because Romney had Billy Graham's blessing. Even the anti-Mormon material on the Graham Ministries website had been removed for Romney's benefit.

Interestingly, nobody was calling Hillary Clinton a socialist when she was pushing national health care--and she even quoted Marx once in a press conference.

There is more to the anti-Obama rhetoric than his being a Democrat.
 
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The only other president I can recall being named the antichrist was Kennedy--because he was Catholic. Nobody was calling Clinton the antichrist and nobody was declaring the world or the US would come to an end because of him.

No, that claim would not have been made about Romney because Romney had Billy Graham's blessing. Even the anti-Mormon material on the Graham Ministries website had been removed for Romney's benefit.

Interestingly, nobody was calling Hillary Clinton a socialist when she was pushing national health care--and she even quoted Marx once in a press conference.

There is more to the anti-Obama rhetoric than his being a Democrat.

For your reading pleasure:
Who Was the First President to be Called the Antichrist?
The 7 Most Popular Contenders for the Title ‘Antichrist’ – The Gospel Coalition Blog

From the second article:
"Every American president since George Washington has likely been suspected of being the one to usher in the end times. But Gerald Burton Winrod, a pro-Nazi evangelist from Kansas, deserves credit for the modern president-as-Antichrist trend. Winrod believed FDR was a "devil" linked with the Jewish-Communist conspiracy and that Hitler would save Europe from Communism.

Since Winrod's day, almost every president has landed on the Antichrist suspect list. FDR, JFK, Nixon, Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton, and Barack Obama have all been named be various individuals and organizations. The one exception to the rule may be Gerald Ford. Despite being a world leader during the height of the 1970s End Times craze, it's unlikely anyone ever considered Ford a serious contender for the title of Antichrist."

I do remember Clinton being the 'antichrist'. And don't get me started on how they talked about Hillary. Perhaps you didn't run in 'those' circles back then. ;)
 
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For your reading pleasure:
Who Was the First President to be Called the Antichrist?
The 7 Most Popular Contenders for the Title ‘Antichrist’ – The Gospel Coalition Blog

From the second article:


I do remember Clinton being the 'antichrist'. And don't get me started on how they talked about Hillary. Perhaps you didn't run in 'those' circles back then.

Ah, but that's the point--you had to run in "those circles" back then to hear it--it didn't break out into the mainstream media. And I don't run in "those circles" today.
 
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Ah, but that's the point--you had to run in "those circles" back then to hear it--it didn't break out into the mainstream media. And I don't run in "those circles" today.

Perhaps that's true.

But that's actually why I was a little surprised to hear that this was 'news'.

A violent loony thinks the guy in the White House is the antichrist. And in other news: water is wet!
 
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The only other president I can recall being named the antichrist was Kennedy--because he was Catholic. Nobody was calling Clinton the antichrist and nobody was declaring the world or the US would come to an end because of him.

No, that claim would not have been made about Romney because Romney had Billy Graham's blessing. Even the anti-Mormon material on the Graham Ministries website had been removed for Romney's benefit.

Interestingly, nobody was calling Hillary Clinton a socialist when she was pushing national health care--and she even quoted Marx once in a press conference.

There is more to the anti-Obama rhetoric than his being a Democrat.
If the people who people had been absolutely sure were the anti-Christ were, you know, actually the anti-Christ...

Know Your Antichrist Candidates | Armageddon Cocktail Hour

Al Gore is apparently a candidate. As is Arnie. My favourite though has to be the Hoff. Yes, apparently there are people who seriously believe this stuff.
 
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No, there would still be partisan bickering, but all this the-president-is-the-antichrist-end-of-the-world stuff will stop.


Who said the president is the antichrist? No one. He is not smart enough or even mature enough. As someone said last night on Shawn Hannity, he's immature and petulant. I think that is a perfect description. Antichrist will be passionate about WAY more than himself.

The world is not going to end soon. No one has said that either, except the Hollywood producers who keep making movies about the end of the world. We Christians know that Jesus will come back and reign for 1000 yrs.

So when you guys make fun of people who think for themselves, you can't even make correct accusations.
 
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The only other president I can recall being named the antichrist was Kennedy--because he was Catholic. Nobody was calling Clinton the antichrist and nobody was declaring the world or the US would come to an end because of him.

No, that claim would not have been made about Romney because Romney had Billy Graham's blessing. Even the anti-Mormon material on the Graham Ministries website had been removed for Romney's benefit.

Interestingly, nobody was calling Hillary Clinton a socialist when she was pushing national health care--and she even quoted Marx once in a press conference.

There is more to the anti-Obama rhetoric than his being a Democrat.


You've got that right. Shall I list the reasons?

Also, there were many complaints about Hilary's healthcare plan. No one heard them though because the media are all socialists too. Why do you think she backed off?
 
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If the people who people had been absolutely sure were the anti-Christ were, you know, actually the anti-Christ...

Know Your Antichrist Candidates | Armageddon Cocktail Hour

Al Gore is apparently a candidate. As is Arnie. My favourite though has to be the Hoff. Yes, apparently there are people who seriously believe this stuff.

I don't know who Arnie and Hoff are but I do know that the antichrist will fool just about everyone so there is no sense trying to guess who he is. I think it would be wiser to pray for wisdom so that you will be able to see through him when he does appear. From the sounds of your posts, you're going to need a LOT of help.
 
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[URL="http://biblia.com/books/NIV/Psalm 91" said:
Psalm 91[/URL];64271886]I don't know who Arnie and Hoff are ...

Arnold Schwarzenegger and David Hasselhoff.

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I don't know who Arnie and Hoff are but I do know that the antichrist will fool just about everyone so there is no sense trying to guess who he is. I think it would be wiser to pray for wisdom so that you will be able to see through him when he does appear. From the sounds of your posts, you're going to need a LOT of help.
Well pardon flippin' me.
 
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Well, if the shoe fits...lol. If you find yourself agreeing mostly with the majority of the crowd, what will be any different when the antichrist comes around? The majority will follow him and so we know he's going to be very charismatic.

Look at the current situation: You have a Republican Congress trying to do what the people want, which is to stop Obamacare and control the spending and the debt. You have a Democratic Senate who refuses to do what the majority of people want. They also want to protect their Democratic President and turn people against the Republicans. So they refuse to negotiate or compromise. You have a president who wants the blame to be on Republicans. Therefore, someone, we don't know who, gave the order for the shutdown of the U.S. gov't to be as difficult for people as possible. So we have elderly people being evicted from their homes which happen to be on Federal property, parks and monuments are closed, Amber Alert system has been closed down, etc. but Michelle Obama's getting fit program is on. The president refuses to negotiate with Republicans. They have passed four bills in the House to help the members of the military and to get some of the government back to work but the Democratic Senate refuses to vote on them.

So we have one side of the government trying to help the people, while the other side is trying to hurt the people. Now which side does the people blame for the mess??? The one which is trying to help them. So if it is that easy to deceive the people by working against them, how much easier will it be when the antichrist comes along to save the day? Most are going to follow like sheep, even Christians.
 
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Well, if the shoe fits...lol. If you find yourself agreeing mostly with the majority of the crowd, what will be any different when the antichrist comes around? The majority will follow him and so we know he's going to be very charismatic.

Look at the current situation: You have a Republican Congress trying to do what the people want, which is to stop Obamacare and control the spending and the debt. You have a Democratic Senate who refuses to do what the majority of people want. They also want to protect their Democratic President and turn people against the Republicans. So they refuse to negotiate or compromise. You have a president who wants the blame to be on Republicans. Therefore, someone, we don't know who, gave the order for the shutdown of the U.S. gov't to be as difficult for people as possible. So we have elderly people being evicted from their homes which happen to be on Federal property, parks and monuments are closed, Amber Alert system has been closed down, etc. but Michelle Obama's getting fit program is on. The president refuses to negotiate with Republicans. They have passed four bills in the House to help the members of the military and to get some of the government back to work but the Democratic Senate refuses to vote on them.

So we have one side of the government trying to help the people, while the other side is trying to hurt the people. Now which side does the people blame for the mess??? The one which is trying to help them. So if it is that easy to deceive the people by working against them, how much easier will it be when the antichrist comes along to save the day? Most are going to follow like sheep, even Christians.
Wow! A Republican point of view that is not entirely accurate but when is it ever? The fact is that if they voted in the house on a clean budget it would pass. Fact is that the debt ceiling is not something to play politics with as the damage could go far beyond what is envisioned but the Republicans will probably drive this country to default and a depression worse than anything anyone has seen yet. No, it is not the Dems who refuse to do what they need to but the Republicans and come election time they will pay for this as most of America agrees with the fact that it is the Republicans who are to blame. Personally, I like seeing this shoot yourself in the foot mentality, I am only sorry it has to come at the expense of the country
 
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Wow! A Republican point of view that is not entirely accurate but when is it ever? The fact is that if they voted in the house on a clean budget it would pass. Fact is that the debt ceiling is not something to play politics with as the damage could go far beyond what is envisioned but the Republicans will probably drive this country to default and a depression worse than anything anyone has seen yet. No, it is not the Dems who refuse to do what they need to but the Republicans and come election time they will pay for this as most of America agrees with the fact that it is the Republicans who are to blame. Personally, I like seeing this shoot yourself in the foot mentality, I am only sorry it has to come at the expense of the country

Um, I see you've been either watching MSNBC or listening to NPR. You just repeated the Democrats lies, er, talking points verbatim.
 
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