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The Lake of Fire revealed!

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by Daveon, May 17, 2005.

  1. Daveon

    Daveon New Member

    The Lake of Fire burning with Brimstone is spiritual. The symbolism revealed!

    Lake symbolizes Water
    - Washing of regeneration
    - Baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins - Baptised in Water [Lake]
    - Being born of water - Rebirth

    Fire symbolizes Spirit
    - The Renewing of the Holy Spirit
    - Baptism of Fire - Salted with Fire
    - Being born of Spirit - Rebirth

    (John 3:5)
    Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water [Lake] and the Spirit [Fire] he cannot enter the Kingdom of God.

    Brimstone symbolizes Purification
    - Used in the purification of temples - The greeks burned brimstone to purify their temples of worship
    - Consecration - To make Holy unto God
    - Being cleansed of sin - Sanctification

    (1 Corinthians 3:16)
    Don’t you know that you are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?

    Torment symbolizes Suffering
    - Trial by Fire
    - Affliction - Way of the Cross
    - Being chastised by God - Disiplinary punishment of sinners

    (Acts 4:22)
    We must through much tribulation [suffering] enter the kingdom of God.

    (Hebrews 12:5-7)
    My sons, do not despise the chastening of the Lord, nor be discouraged when you are rebuked by Him; for whom the Lord loves He chastens, and scourges every son whom He receives. If you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father does not chasten?

    Second Death symbolizes the Death of the Sinful nature
    - Dying to Sin [second death] - Releases us from the law of sin and death
    - Death of the old man - Crucifying the Flesh
    - To pass from death to life - Transformation into spiritual creatures in Christ
    - Being redeemed from the power of Death and Hades [grave] - Made incorruptible and Immortal

    (Romans 6:6)
    For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin because anyone who has died [second death] has been freed from sin.

    To be cast into the spiritual Lake of Fire burning with Brimstone is to be baptized of water [Lake] and the Spirit [Fire] consecrating [With Brimstone] the temple of God.
  2. Biarien

    Biarien Dúnadan

    That is an interesting interpretation. One I have not heard before. Rather than in outline format, I would like to see more of your evidence/reasoning before the roof caves in on this topic, so to speak.
  3. ChristianDude777

    ChristianDude777 Well-Known Member

    This is really interesting but there are a few things that don't quite fit...

    And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

    And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

    And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

    The devil, the beast and the false prophet won't be baptized with water nor the Spirit. Neither those who aren't written in the Book of Life.

    Or have I completely missed the point of this thread..?? :scratch:

    Tim L.
  4. Mea Culpa

    Mea Culpa Regular Member

    The devil is going to be born again?
  5. ScottBot

    ScottBot Revolutionary

    Apparently, Satan and his demons are going to be water baptised and born again into the kingdom, as are all of the unrepentent sinners and those who reject the Lamb.
  6. Archangel

    Archangel Sith Lord

    So if this is true...then why bother becoming a Christian...since apparently everyone including satan and the demonic will enter into eternal bliss with God.

    Aw well..guess i can go out and sin all i want now cause it doesnt matter...also jesus teachings about holines...yea they are just a pile of cra p that dont matte, so yea lets now bother living by them lets all sin cause we all go to heaven anyway....right?
  7. £amb

    £amb Guest

    There is nothing symbolic about Hell. It is a place where non-believers will go to be eternally separated from God. I can not fathom being eternally separated from God. No joy, peace, love, kindness...etc., etc.
  8. 88Devin07

    88Devin07 Orthodox Catholic Church

    Eastern Orthodox
    This is basically the belief of the Revelation of Thomas, which was rejected as unbiblical and uncanon b/c of this belief. You can't live your life as you want to just b/c you are saved in the end. Otherwise Christ's coming has no meaning.
  9. Mea Culpa

    Mea Culpa Regular Member

    Ah! That's what I thought.

    Why become a Christian indeed, if this were true. Might as well follow Satans lead...

    I am sorry, but this theory is seriously flawed.
  10. grateful heart

    grateful heart Active Member

    Interesting theory, no concrete evidence for it, but alas interesting. Problem is we dont know 100% what is symbolic and what isnt in some areas
  11. billywhizz

    billywhizz Member

    No more than burning eternally in hell by a God who is love.

    emphasis being on'IS'

    if we are capable of doing good thinks out of our love, how much more the Father who is in heaven


    I think if we were honest with ourselves we think that we deserve heaven and others dont because we have been good all our lives

    Thankfully Gods ways are different to ours.

  12. deu58

    deu58 Senior Veteran

    Hi Billy whiz

    People who think like this are simply deceiving themselves,

    Ac 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

    Being a "good person" is not how we get into the kingdom of God, We work good works because we are saved, Not to get saved.

    As to the lake of fire it is for people whith out Christ. Whether they were good or not,

    yours in Christ
    deu 58
  13. yashua

    yashua Active Member


    Ever heard of L.Ray Smith
    He does one of the most scriptual studies on the lake of fire that you might find very intresting? just type in the name you'll find the site.
  14. Steve Petersen

    Steve Petersen Senior Veteran

    I read that in Jesus' day, the Dead Sea was called Lake Asphaltus by the Romans. Tar would bubble to the surface. It was collected and used for ships. On occasion that tar would spontaneously combust and the lake would literally be on fire.
  15. Ainesis

    Ainesis Leaning on Him

    This was an interesting post. Like the others, however, I don't think it is accurate. Is their any reasoning for the parallels you see as indicated? They seem to be a bit of a stretch or maybe i am just missing your context.
  16. God_of_Mercy

    God_of_Mercy Well-Known Member

    I think its a very good interpretation :angel:
  17. Ainesis

    Ainesis Leaning on Him

    But is it Scriptural? :confused:
  18. Spiritualyalive

    Spiritualyalive Member

    The reasoning behind not wanting to believe that the lake of fire is literal is because people reject that a loving God can through a so-called good person in it and still be loving. The truth of the matter is that, you yourself step on Jesus, spite in his face, and wipe your feet on him, and aount the blood of the covenant a unholy thing to get to hell. If a person goes to the lake of fire it's because thats what they wanted and they fully deserved it. All sins shall be forgiven to man but ONE and it shall be never forgiven not in this life or the life to come. If one does not accept the REAL Jesus, he has comitted blashemy against the Holy Spirit and this shall never be forgiven. One in this state deserves everything he has coming to him. One has to reject, turn his back on the Holy Spirit to not believe in the real Jesus. If one has not turned his back on the Holy Spirit one will accept the real Jesus because it's imposible to not accept him once who you know who he is and the truth of the matter.:clap: TRUTH sets us free when we accept it.
  19. Egghead

    Egghead Well-Known Member

    Now, dont go confusing anyone with questions like that ;)
  20. Ainesis

    Ainesis Leaning on Him

    Sorry! Leave it to me to confuse the bunch. ^_^