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Aren't we comparing the world versus the Gospel again here?

You do know that type of argument is kinda of true but in the sense that apples and oranges are both types of fruit. I think it's a little bit more complex then just this.
 
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Aren't we comparing the world versus the Gospel again here?

You do know that type of argument is kinda of true but in the sense that apples and oranges are both types of fruit. I think it's a little bit more complex then just this.

Aren't we comparing the world versus the Gospel again here?
Yes, but in more detail than you are giving my post credit for.


You do know that type of argument is kinda of true but in the sense that apples and oranges are both types of fruit. I think it's a little bit more complex then just this.

Forgive me but i cant make sense of your words here. If you think it needs more detail then agree with it and add your two cents.
 
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The fruits of the kingdom are things we should be constantly striving to seek or help create, but the American situation may be on the surface division, strife and violence even, but that doesn't tell the whole picture either.

I suggest a broader picture then a blanket assessment.
 
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In the kingdom we bear the fruit of truth, love, joy, peace, and of one mind, but in America we bear the fruit of political lies, strife, and division.

True or false?
Although I'm no fan of America, I wouldn't think the situation in that country is any worse than in other countries, my own included.
 
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America (like most of all nations) bears mixed fruit, both good and bad. The only difference is in the particular fruits and balance of good/bad, but all nations AS nations do both good and evil.

And the Christian pursuit is for the good, the result of becoming like Christ is more and more good fruit.

Secular nations are not like Christ. Should this really surprise us? It's a given, no matter which nation you focus on.

But it is worth applauding, to the degree nations get things right, and bear good fruit. We could use a lot more of that in the world. Whether or not it will be forthcoming in the near future, I cannot say.
 
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The fruits of the kingdom are things we should be constantly striving to seek or help create, but the American situation may be on the surface division, strife and violence even, but that doesn't tell the whole picture either.

I suggest a broader picture then a blanket assessment.
I never made a blanket statement. I asked a simple question.
 
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America (like most of all nations) bears mixed fruit, both good and bad. The only difference is in the particular fruits and balance of good/bad, but all nations AS nations do both good and evil.

And the Christian pursuit is for the good, the result of becoming like Christ is more and more good fruit.

Secular nations are not like Christ. Should this really surprise us? It's a given, no matter which nation you focus on.

But it is worth applauding, to the degree nations get things right, and bear good fruit. We could use a lot more of that in the world. Whether or not it will be forthcoming in the near future, I cannot say.
Im not surprised.
 
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I never said that america was worse than other nations
Sorry, with you mentioning just one country I assumed that you were earmarking it as being different to all others. Perhaps the statement would have better read:
'but in the world today we bear the fruit of political lies, strife, and division.'
 
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Sorry, with you mentioning just one country I assumed that you were earmarking it as being different to all others. Perhaps the statement would have better read:
'but in the world today we bear the fruit of political lies, strife, and division.'
You are correct. Thank you.
 
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