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The Just (those who practice righteousness) Live (are quickened/saved) By Faith

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by KDB47, May 24, 2019.

  1. KDB47

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    The Bible "says:"

    You must be born again (of water and Spirit).

    Everyone who practices righteousness is (has repented and been) born of God.

    Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of GOD, nor is he who does not love his brother.

    The just (those who practice righteousness) live (are/were passed from death unto life) by faith.

    Those who fear GOD and practice righteousness are accepted by Him.

    Christ came into the world to save His people from their sins.

    Salvation is forgiveness of sins, and taking away (cleansing) of all unrighteousness to make us holy.

    No condemnation for those in Christ Jesus, WHO WALK WITH THE SPIRIT and NOT AFTER THE FLESH!

    If you live according to the flesh, you will die, but put to death the sins of the flesh, and you will live.

    Those who practice unrighteousness (sins of the flesh) shall not inherit the Kingdom of GOD.

    Those who overcome the world (lust of flesh/eyes, pride) shall inherit the Kingdom of GOD.

    Those who overcome (the world) shall not have their name blotted out from Book of Life.

    The Kingdom of GOD is a Kingdom of righteousness.

    Workers of iniquity, I never knew you.

    "I know your works, that you have a name that you are alive, but you are “dead.”

    The prodigal was spiritually dead in the world, until he repented and returned to His Father.

    “Dead in trespasses and sins” until quickened together with Christ when forgiven of all trespasses by repentance and confessing our sins.

    Believers who (willfully and knowingly) practice unrighteousness are spiritually "Dead in Christ" rise first,……..then we shall we caught up together with them in the clouds.

    The Lord is not willing that any perish, but that ALL COME TO REPENTANCE!

    Faith without works is “dead.”

    “Sheep” are righteous,……..”goats” are dead, destined to everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

    He who began a good work in you will complete it.

    In Christ, all shall be made alive.

    GOD is the Savior of all men, especially those who believe.

    He has made all things beautiful, in His time.

    Until we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; Ephesians 4:13

    May GOD bless,.......
     
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  2. Oscarr

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    Your point is...?
     
  3. KDB47

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    Believers that are born of the Spirit to be "alive in Christ" (not the spiritually "dead in Christ") shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. Not all so-called believers have repented to practice righteousness and overcome
    to become an heir of the Kingdom of GOD with their named secured in the Book of Life.
     
  4. Oscarr

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    How does that relate to believing in Christ as the only way to salvation? Are you supporting a mixture of faith and works?
     
  5. KDB47

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    Believers are reconciled to GOD the Father (saved/quickened) when we are forgiven of all trespasses by repenting and confessing our sins, but just because we believe that does not mean we have turned from the world and sin to practice righteousness. We do not become an heir of GOD in the Kingdom until we overcome the world and the sins of the flesh to practice righteousness.
     
  6. Oscarr

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    Name one person in all of history who has achieved being able to overcome the world and the sins of the flesh to practice righteousness.

    Did you know that the preaching of the cross puts to death any chance of us being able to practice righteousness in order to be accepted of God? That is why to most people the preaching of the cross is foolishness to intelligent people.

    Trying to add works to our faith is in fact not trusting God that He has made us right with Him as a total free gift through the cross.
     
  7. KDB47

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    If you know that He is righteous, you know that everyone who practices righteousness is born of Him (1 John 2:29).

    If you do not practice righteousness, you are not of GOD.
    ........Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is he who does not love his brother. (1 John 3:10 b,c)

    Jesus Christ became sin for us and died in our behalf, so that we are forgiven of sins by the grace of GOD for our faith in His name. However, being forgiven of sins is not the same as being cleansed of all unrighteousness to be born of GOD.

    Believers are being justified of sins as we continue to repent and confess our sins until we are justified as being righteous when we are born of GOD. This is when we are quickened together with the Spirit of Christ and the righteousness of Christ is imputed unto us.

    We go on to perfection when GOD sanctifies us completely by anointing us with the Holy Spirit of GOD to be a son and heir of GOD in the Kingdom of GOD.

    The "dead in Christ" shall rise first,.....then we who are alive and remain shall be.......
     
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  8. Oscarr

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    Justification is a free gift that comes as the result of believing in Christ on the basis of His death on the cross where we died with Him. How can a dead person practice righteousness?

    Oh, a person can say, "I don't trust God's free gift of righteousness, so I think I'll add a few good works of my own just in case." Does that sound like faith to you?
     
  9. KDB47

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    Justification is a progressive process of GOD cleansing us of unrighteousness as we repent and confess our sins unto living a righteous lifestyle to be born of GOD. The righteousness of Christ is not imputed unto us until we are born of GOD.

    Justification is a free gift, in that Christ became a final sacrifice for sins to fulfill the Law and took the curse of the Law upon Him to redeem us from the curse (the penalty for sin of the Law), so that repentant believers are forgiven of sins by the grace of GOD for their faith in Jesus Christ by confessing their sins. When GOD forgives us of all trespasses we are saved by being quickened together with the Spirit of Jesus Christ.

    The repentant believer that walks with the Spirit does good works out of love to please GOD and to keep the commandment of our Lord Jesus Christ who directed us to love one another.
     
  10. Oscarr

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    You might need to look more closely into Romans and Galatians to find out what Justification and true Christian conversion actually is. Trying to give doctrine without accurate exegesis can lead to error.
     
  11. KDB47

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    If our understanding is in error, then please show us:

    1) What is "true Christian conversion?

    2) What is "justification?"

    3) When are we born of GOD?

    4) How/when was/is a believer baptized into Christ Jesus?

    5) How/when does a child of GOD become a son of GOD?

    6) What is the difference between a brother in Christ and a saint, or the difference between a child of GOD and a son of GOD?

    7) What did Paul mean when He said, God would justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith?

    8) What is the difference between being baptized "in the name of Jesus Christ" and being baptized "into Christ Jesus and His death?"

    9) Who are the "dead in Christ" of 1 Thessalonians 4:16?

    We can all be enlightened by exchanging thoughts of understanding and interpretation.
     
  12. Oscarr

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    All these happen instantly a person receives Christ as Saviour and Lord. A child of God and a son of God are one and the same. We are adopted into God's family the moment we receive Christ. It is not progressive. It is an immediate done deal.

    The circumcised are the Jews, and the uncircumcised are the Gentiles. Both are equally justified by faith in Christ.

    The former is water baptism with has no redemptive power in itself. It is a public declaration of the latter. The latter comes before water baptism. It happens when a person receives Christ. He or she is baptised by the Holy Spirit into the body Christ. This is made possible by the death and shedding of the blood of Christ on the cross. This is why it is also called, "baptised into Christ Jesus and His death."

    True.
     
  13. KDB47

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    Because the church did not endure sound doctrine, and because trying to look back nearly 2000 years to understand just what the Scripture meant, and because there are three (even four) scenarios of how different believers were/are saved to consider, we believe this is too difficult to explain and understand unless we examine issues of doctrine one by one. Generalizations leave too many open ends and contradictions.
    We believe we can more clearly and accurately explain these things if we look at them one by one, to restore sound doctrine for the rising of the "dead in Christ," to bring the kingdoms of this world to be the Kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ.
     
  14. Oscarr

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    Question: When did God fully love us, accepted us as a child in His family and totally pleased Him? Before or after repentance?
     
  15. ViaCrucis

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    Brownie point spirituality has no place in Christianity.

    -CryptoLutheran
     
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