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The Judge has finally arrived

Discussion in 'Controversial Christian Theology' started by Johan Abrahams, Jul 5, 2017.

  1. Johan Abrahams

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    Good news! What all have waiting for is finally here!

    The new world order. The new ruling of Jesus Christ.

    Amen!

    The Judge has finally arrived.

    He is Jesus. That we know.

    Joh 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

    But what kept Him until now?

    Because Jesus is the Life of God created in us.

    This Life flows from us.
    And judgment is done by us.

    1Co 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
    1Co 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

    And the time is here for those that see.
    1Co 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.

    Because we know how the Spirit leads us into correct judgment.

    It is not a judgment according to the law. This is human being judgment.

    Mat 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
    Mat 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

    We know very well about this wrong judgment. We have all done it this way. And many are still doing it this way. Go to any organisation and you will see it. The “sinners” are judged by the “righteous”. Here those getting more marks according to the law are the judges. They sit in the church organisations giving their money, praying, reading bible and might even be “pastors” etc. They are just judging everyone not as “holy” as they are. And according to scripture . . .judgment should come to them first. Because they judge wrongly. Their judgment is a rejection of the sacrifice. And judgment needs to come . . .not against the person. . . .but against the rejection of the sacrifice. Jesus died. And the sacrifice is hidden by those that judge and were not called to judge. And the sacrifice is hidden behind the lies for those that need it.
    The world is in need of the sacrifice. This needs to be restored. And for the sake of the world and the death of God that is marred by those that judge freely we that know needs to stand up.
    Pro 31:9 Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.

    It is judgment where the sacrifice is rejected.

    Heb 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

    This is sure judgment.

    Judgment is where forgiveness didn’t materialize. Judgement is where the sacrifice is ignored. Judgment is against those that uses the law to judge. Judgment is for the sake of those that needs the sacrifice. Judgment will restore the worthiness of the sacrifice and bring the poor . .. those in need of the blood . . .to Jesus. Judgment will restore the true leaders and brings about the ruling of the King of kings and the Lord of lords.
    Stand up for the sake of Jesus and the “poor”
    The house of God needs to be cleaned.

    1Pe 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

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  2. Ron Gurley

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    Which "Judgment" are you talking about??

    1. Define by reference to the Bible WHICH JUDGMENT(S) is/are being referred to:

    a. JUDGMENT of the NATIONS ...("ethnos=PEOPLES=societies = sheep/goats) ...Psalm 9:19 ; Matthew 25: 31-36 f

    b. JUDGMENT of the Believers' Works...1 Corinthians 3: 10-15 ; 2 Corinthians 5 : 6-10

    c. The GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGMENT...sentencing of unbelievers...Revelation 20: 11-15 (NASB)

    d. BELIEVING SURVIVORS of the GREAT TRIBULATION...Revelation 7:9-17

    e. JUDGMENT of Fallen Spirits: Revelation 20:1-10

    f. JUDGMENT of the NATION Israel....the Major Prophets + Matthew 19:27-30 (NASB)

    John 5:24
    “Truly, truly, I say to you,
    he who hears My word,
    and believes Him who sent Me,
    has eternal life, and
    does not come into JUDGMENT, (of spiritual POSITION
    but "has passed" out of death into life.

    John 3
    18 He who believes in Him is NOT judged;
    he who does not believe has been judged already,
    because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
     
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    Bible says it this way:

    This is the judgment, that the light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the light; for their works were evil. For everyone who does evil hates the light, and doesn't come to the light, lest his works would be exposed. But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his works may be revealed, that they have been done in God."
    John 3:19-21
     
  4. Ron Gurley

    Ron Gurley What U See is What U Get!

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    God is perfectly JUST.
    His JUSTICE and JUDGMENTS are perfectly carried out and "fair" with respect to His "GOOD" Creation.

    A perfectly SOVREIGN and JUST KING must render JUDGMENTS against a Man, Mankind, and NATIONS (societies/peoples: from infants to aged to animals)
    who have TOTALLY rejected Him and His perfect GOOD, His perfect WISDOM, His perfect provisions.

    Genesis 6:5
    The Lord saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time.

    JUST / justice = perfect respect and treatment in accordance with perfect standards.

    Deuteronomy 32 (NASB)....The Song of Moses....God: ...all His ways are JUST
    4 “The Rock!
    His work is perfect,
    For all His ways are JUST;
    A God of faithfulness and without injustice,
    Righteous and upright is He.

    Genesis 18:25...God judges with perfect JUSTICE
    Far be it from You to do such a thing,
    to slay the righteous with the wicked,
    so that the righteous and the wicked are treated alike.
    Far be it from You!
    Shall not the Judge of all the earth deal JUSTLY?”

    GOD’S RIGHTEOUS "Anger":

    “God judgeth the righteous,
    and God is angry with the wicked every day.” Psalm 7:11

    GOD’S Jealousy:

    “For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy:
    for I have espoused you to one husband,
    that I may present [you as] a chaste virgin to Christ.”
    2 Corinthians 11:2

    “Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God [am] a jealous God,
    visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth [generation] of them that hate me;” Exodus 20:5

    GOD’S Wrath:

    “God is jealous, and the LORD revengeth;
    the LORD revengeth, and is furious;
    the LORD will take vengeance on his adversaries, and
    he reserveth wrath for his enemies.” Nahum 1:2

    “For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven
    against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;”
    Romans 1:18

    GOD’S Vengeance:

    “Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves,
    but rather give place unto wrath:
    for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.” Romans 12:19

    “To me belongeth vengeance and recompence;
    their foot shall slide in due time:
    for the day of their calamity is at hand, and
    the things that shall come upon them make haste.”
    Deuteronomy 32:35

    GOD'S perfect JUSTICE is against those who put other gods, people and things before HIM.

    John 3:36...John the Baptizer about Jesus
    ....He who BELIEVES in the Son has eternal (spiritual) life;
    BUT
    he who does not obey the Son (TO BELIEVE!) will not see (eternal spiritual) life,
    but the WRATH of God abides on him.”

    Romans 5:9...
    Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be SAVED from the WRATH of God THROUGH Him.
     
  5. Johan Abrahams

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    All of them.
     
  6. Johan Abrahams

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    Yep . . this is the practical doing of the judgment.
    Eph 5:13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.
     
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  7. Ron Gurley

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    post #5: ...A1:"WHICH JUDGEMENT?: "All of them.."

    RESPONSE: IMPOSSIBLE!
     
  8. Johan Abrahams

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    So which one do you deem impossible?
     
  9. Ron Gurley

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    RESPONSE TO POST#8l

    Impossible for ALL the Listed JUDGMENTS ABOVE to be the ONE in the OP:...E.G>
    Matthew 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge
    John 5:30 ... my judgment is just
     
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  10. Johan Abrahams

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    You are not very clear on which judgment you deem is impossible by the wisdom of Jesus.

    1Co 1:30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
     
  11. Hethatreadethit

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    I'm not sure exactly where you are at here, but when you talk about judgment and sacrifice. I cannot ignore this topic for it Has been a very popular study, that I have looked at in the last 30 years.

    Judgment is the power of God to transform souls. Judgment is the light that manifest truth, and this is the revealing of what makes a pleasing offering, a sweet savour unto God.

    If you would like to communicate more, feel free, it is a great joy to talk about this.
     
  12. Ron Gurley

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    All JUDGMENTS listed in post #2 are POSSIBLE and true and Biblical.
     
  13. Hethatreadethit

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    The judgment that was taking place in the Church was according to:

    Deu 17:8 If there arise a matter too hard for thee in judgment, between blood and blood, between plea and plea, and between stroke and stroke, being matters of controversy within thy gates: then shalt thou arise, and get thee up into the place which the LORD thy God shall choose;
    Deu 17:9 And thou shalt come unto the priests the Levites, and unto the judge that shall be in those days, and enquire; and they shall shew thee the sentence of judgment:
    Deu 17:10 And thou shalt do according to the sentence, which they of that place which the LORD shall choose shall shew thee; and thou shalt observe to do according to all that they inform thee:
    Deu 17:11 According to the sentence of the law which they shall teach thee, and according to the judgment which they shall tell thee, thou shalt do: thou shalt not decline from the sentence which they shall shew thee, to the right hand, nor to the left.
    Deu 17:12 And the man that will do presumptuously, and will not hearken unto the priest that standeth to minister there before the LORD thy God, or unto the judge, even that man shall die: and thou shalt put away the evil from Israel.
    Deu 17:13 And all the people shall hear, and fear, and do no more presumptuously.
     
  14. Johan Abrahams

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    I just happen to see this now. Missed it totally. Sorry. But We can resume this if you are still interested. If I miss again. Contact me a bit more "forcibly". You will see more of this on my Facebook Page.

    Johan Abrahams

    And other Pages.

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  15. Hethatreadethit

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    So what you have here is a witness. It is not just "Teaching". It is the actual manifestation of the Judgement according to the Teaching. And that is what the Word is. It is manifestation of the Life of Jesus in the Human Being. It is the Manifestation of Jesus. Again. This time not as Saviour but as Ruler. Or in other Words the Second coming of Jesus.
     
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