The Jews to be kept safe during the Great Tribulation

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I will give this much: okay, maybe the Jews indeed are kept safe during the future Tribulation. And I lean toward futurist.

It's after that when they should be worried about.

The climax of the trib is when Antichrist invades Jerusalem...the Lord will destroy him, and those who follow him.
 
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I'm the 2nd who agrees with BAB2's interpretation, and not the last.

In my Bible the book's name is Revelation. Is yours different?



I know, and know of, plenty of rich Jews. They're in there too.



Here's what my Bible says about antichrist(s). Not a one with a capital A:

1 John 2:18
Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

1 John 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

1 John 4:3
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

2 John 1:7
For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.


No reference to invasion or Jerusalem.

Futurist fantasy.


Yeah yeah, pick and choose, bait and switch. Quote only the scriptures that suit you. Don't quote 2.Thess.2 which describes the man of sin, the son of perdition.
 
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That is who he is … everyone worth listening to knows that....

Then everyone worth listening to must not read Scripture. Nowhere does Scripture refer to a singular capital A Antichrist.

Futurist fallacy.
 
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I will go with Christ's interpretation in Revelation 1:20...

It is His, instead of mine.

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"Israel will be restored."


I will go with Paul's interpretation of your statement found above.


Rom 9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:


Rom 9:8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.


Rom 9:27 Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:


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It is all bait and switch, choosing only the scriptures that you agree with

Paul says those who are now rejected will be received, those who are now diminished will attain to the fulness.

The purpose of the remnant was to turn the whole nation back to God.
 
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Then everyone worth listening to must not read Scripture. Nowhere does Scripture refer to a singular capital A Antichrist.

Futurist fallacy.

Wrong John mentions him "you have heard that Antichrist is coming" what he goes on to say does not negate that Antichrist will come. But you can call him the man of sin if you wish, whose coming is in the power of Satan, the son of perdition....doesn't bother us what you call him.
 
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Wrong John mentions him "you have heard that Antichrist is coming" what he goes on to say does not negate that Antichrist will come. But you can call him the man of sin if you wish, whose coming is in the power of Satan, the son of perdition....doesn't bother us what you call him.

What he goes on to say is that they were mistaken in expecting a singular Antichrist, because there were already many of them. And not one of them was a capital A.
 
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What he goes on to say is that they were mistaken in expecting a singular Antichrist, because there were already many of them. And not one of them was a capital A.

You made that up...John does not say they were mistaken
 
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It is all bait and switch, choosing only the scriptures that you agree with

Paul says those who are now rejected will be received, those who are now diminished will attain to the fulness.

The purpose of the remnant was to turn the whole nation back to God.

You are promoting the doctrine that John Nelson Darby brought to America about the time of the Civil War.
It was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible.
Since that time it has spread like a virus through the modern Church.

It is a form of Dual Covenant Theology.

When it comes to "bait and switch", you guys are the experts.


You have switched the one seed, with the many seeds in Galatians 3:16.

You have switched the children of the promise, with the children of the flesh in Romans 9:8.



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You are promoting the doctrine that John Nelson Darby brought to America about the time of the Civil War.
It was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible.
Since that time it has spread like a virus through the modern Church.

It is a form of Dual Covenant Theology.

When it comes to "bait and switch", you guys are the experts.


You have switched the one seed, with the many seeds in Galatians 3:16.

You have switched the children of the promise, with the children of the flesh in Romans 9:8.



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Nonsense the church has always taught the restoration of Israel in the last days. Paul taught it, the fathers taught.

Only in the 4th century the Catholic church abandoned the doctrine in favour of Amillennialism. Since when did the Catholics get anything right?

The primitive church taught the 1,000 year reign of Christ on earth with His saints.

Darby got it all wrong.
 
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You made that up...John does not say they were mistaken
Then why didn't he confirm their expectation by identifying and describing the future singular capital A Antichrist, instead of immediately informing them that there was already an existing multiplicity?
 
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Christ has destroyed and will destroy every antichrist who does not turn to Him before they die.

…and that man of sin will be revealed, the son of perdition
Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God or that is worshipped so that as God he sitteth in the temple of God declaring shewing himself that he is God

whom the Lord will destroy with the breath of His mouth and the brightness of His coming.

It's ok, you don't like to call him Antichrist...that's alright...we'll refer to him as the son of perdition. don't worry.
 
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You don't believe in dispensations?

Paul taught in the dispensation of the fulness of time God will unite in Christ all things, whether they be things in heaven or things on earth.

Won't happen before the Lord returns so it must be after....
 
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