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The icon reads: “Evolution is the key to the philosophy of Antichrist.”

Discussion in 'The Ancient Way - Eastern Orthodox' started by Jude1:3Contendforthefaith, Jan 16, 2021.

  1. Jude1:3Contendforthefaith

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    From :
    https://twitter.com/AudioScribeOW/status/1349952064441389057


    The icon reads: “Evolution is the key to the philosophy of Antichrist.”

    This is a paraphrase of Fr. Seraphim’s words that perfectly captures a big reason why a proper understanding of Genesis and Creation matters for us today.


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    From "Genesis, Creation and Early Man: The Orthodox Christian Vision" -
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  2. Jude1:3Contendforthefaith

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    The Theory of Evolution Emits a Foul Stench

    (From the book: My Elder Joseph the Hesychast by Elder Ephraim)





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    As a non-Orthodox I have to ask Orthodox participants: Is this truly regarded by Orthodox as a holy icon?
     
  4. Ezana

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    I want to get my hands on that book so badly. I hear a reprint is in the works for this year!
     
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    I'm not sure whether that answered my question. Would any other Orthodox posters be willing to respond?
     
  7. OrthodoxWanderer

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    I know!!!! On Amazon they're selling used copies for thousands of dollars. I hope I can someday read it.
     
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    Where did you hear about the reprint?
     
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  10. Jude1:3Contendforthefaith

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    I think that the guy talking in this video is still involved in mesmerism / hypnotism / occult because the people who are interviewing him have this glossy hazey look in their eyes, but I do believe that he is telling the truth about Evolution though :




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    I saw a comment online that mentioned a possible reprinting, and decided to seek out confirmation from the monastery itself. No concrete timeline, but it's in the works!

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    You're welcome.

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    I wish to goodness I could get a copy of the Genesis book by Father Damascene and Father Seraphim. I read it years back, loved it, but now whenever I see a copy it’s like $900
     
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    Creation, Early Man, and Evolution | According to Modern Holy Fathers





    Introduction

    0:38 Fr. Seraphim Rose, Hieromonk of Platina, California (+1982) – Basic presuppositions for knowledge of creation and early man.

    4:33 St. Ignatius Brianchaninov, Bishop of the Caucasus and Stavropol (+1867) – The state of creation before the Fall of Adam.

    6:55 St. Hilarion (Troitsky), Hieromartyr and Archbishop of Verey (+1929) – The Church’s view leads to humility, the secular view leads to pride.

    10:38 St. Nikolai (Velimirovic), Bishop of Zica (+1956) – “Death is Unnatural”

    13:32 St. Justin (Popovic) of Celije (+1979) – How man and the rest of creation are inseparable. When man fell, all of creation fell.

    15:22 St. Ambrose of Optina (+1891) – “Don’t believe at face value all kinds of nonsense…”

    15:46 St. John of Kronstadt (+1908) – True knowledge and the over-educated.

    16:49 St. Vladimir, Hieromartyr and Metropolitan of Kiev and Gallich (+1918) – Do not listen to teachings of unbelief for they “promise you nothing but despair and an inconsolable life.”

    18:44 St. Theophan the Recluse, Bishop of Tambov (+1894) – Evolution is anathema, along with other secular Western philosophies, and only a pure nous can accurately contemplate divine reality.

    29:19 St. Barsanuphius of Optina (+1913) – The moral ramifications of evolutionist philosophy.

    30:05 St. Nectarios, Metropolitan of Pentapolis and Wonderworker of Aegina (+1920) – “Without the acceptance of revealed truth, man will remain an insoluble problem.”

    31:42 Fr. Seraphim Rose (+1982) – Knowledge of creation and early man can only be obtained by divine illumination. (Editor’s Note: This essentially repeats his teaching from the beginning, but it is kept here since it is so key to our understanding.)

    34:26 St. Luke the Surgeon, Archbishop of Simferopol (+1961) – Evolutionary theory is not only contradictory to the Scripture, but to nature itself.

    35:54 St. Sophrony (Sakharov) the Athonite (+1993) – The absurdity of evolutionary theory.

    36:57 St. Paisios of Mount Athos (+1994) – Monkeys are far from humans; evolutionary theory is blasphemy.

    41:31 St. Justin (Popovic) of Celije (+1979) – His letter to a theology student asking about evolution in which he focuses on the impact of evolution on the Orthodoxy doctrine of salvation.

    46:35 Fr. Seraphim Rose (+1982) – Brief overview of the keys to the Patristic understanding.

    52:44 Hymns from Vigil of the Sunday of Forgiveness, The Casting Out of Adam from Paradise

    54:33 Hymn from the Feast of the Elevation of the Holy Cross

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    I don't know. I've never seen it until now.
     
  17. ArmyMatt

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    officially yes once/if Fr Seraphim is added to the calendar.
     
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    Hi there!
    I would have said, Not necessarily, but it would have to be taken more seriously if he is declared a saint, but that is pretty close to Fr Matt's answer.

    I do believe that modern education and modern science are worshiped and trusted far too much, producing scientism and the Heresy of Meliorism ("We know better than the saints and fathers because we live today, and they didn't have our educations, science, iPhones and the internet") The pride that built the Tower of Babel. So, yes, I now believe macroevolution to be false as a narrative, and that Fr Seraphim is right. I can see rational reasons why, and knowing the history of public education well will cure you of trusting it and the unphilosophical, untheological, and as a result illogical scientists that it produces, especially regarding ideas that cannot be observed or experimented on, based only on calculation and assumption.
     
  20. rusmeister

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    But surely people can and do "write" icons of a declared saint with sayings that are not Orthodox dogma? (Although I think this one to truly be Orthodox dogma, but a shocking one to people with blind faith in the modern education which produces the scientists.
     
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