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The hypocrisy of the black lives matter movement.

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Michael, Jun 30, 2020.

  1. Michael

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    I want to start by emphasizing that I'm as appalled and disgusted by what happened to George Floyd as anyone else. His death was simply "murder" IMO, and I hope his killer is convicted of that murder. I'm also *keenly* aware that there's a serious problem with police brutality in this country, regardless of race.

    Having said that, a simple look at the statistical facts with respect to murder and violence in this country, make it clear that if black lives *really* mattered to the black community, they'd be looking in the mirror when it comes to violence against blacks not pointing their fingers at the white (non black) community.

    For instance, in 2016 we see that while the percentage of blacks within the US is around 12.1 percent, the number of murders of blacks in the US accounted for about 43 percent of murder victims in the US. The *overwhelming* number of those murders were committed by young black men, with only about 8.5 percent of the total number being committed by white offenders. On the other hand, about 15 percent of the white victims of murder were committed by black offenders. Statistically speaking, white victims are murdered almost twice as frequently by black offenders as black offenders are murdered by white offenders. While the black community makes up around 12 percent of the population, they committed about 47 percent of the murders in the US in 2016. Those are the *staggering* statistical facts. Think about those statistics for awhile.

    If black lives really matter to the black community, where is their outrage at their own violent behavior? They're committing violence and murder at a significantly higher rate than any other race in the US.

    The media makes a huge deal every time a white officer kills a black victim but we never hear the media make a big deal about a black officer (or an officer of any race) killing a white victim or a non black victim.

    I'm the first to admit that we do have a serious problem with police brutality in this country with a *tiny minority* of bad police officers of all races, but the fixation on police violence is unwarranted IMO. Sure it's a problem that needs to be addressed, but the far bigger problem lies within the black community themselves.
     
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  2. SoldierOfTheKing

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    BLM doesn't care about anybody's life. That's the reality.
     
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  3. timothyu

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    It seems unlike the MLK movement of the past which was focused and successful in building, BLM is more of a blanket movement full of heinz 57 motives which destabilises. I think in the end they will find they have been 'used' by their wealthy funders for purposes other than what they believe.
     
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  4. Michael

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    I disagree. I think they care, but I think their understandable anger is entirely misplaced. It's frustrating that blacks only make up 12 percent of the population but they account for 43 percent of the murder victims in the US. That's not acceptable, but the only group that can change it is the black community themselves and they need to start by taking a close hard look in the mirror.
     
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  5. Michael

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    I'm sure that Russia is more than happy to provide the destabilizing propaganda, but I'm dismayed at how our own media ignores the bigger problem entirely.

    Unfortunately there is no one like MLK in this generation to really appeal to our higher moral values and speak the truth.
     
  6. FireDragon76

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    What makes you think that isn't a concern of the black community? It seems to me there's a logical fallacy happening here, that just because group X focuses on a particular issue, that they aren't also mindful of other problems? That doesn't make sense.

    The primary responsibility for addressing systemic racism against blacks is on white people themselves, since they are the ones with the agency to make changes.
     
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  7. FireDragon76

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    BLM is a grassroots movement, there is no need to appeal to conspiracy theories to explain it.
     
  8. Michael

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    Because nobody in the BLM community is talking about it, and they sure aren't doing anything about it. Who within the black community is organizing events and marches on the topic of black on black violence or black violence in general? Nobody.

    I'd agree if I saw any marches organized related to black violence in general. That *never* happens.

    Yet statistically speaking black offenders are twice as likely to kill white victims as white offenders are likely to kill black victims. Who's acting more "racist" statistically speaking when it comes to racist violence?

    I'm sick and tired of being blamed for the problems in the black community. It's not my personal fault that they can't even get along with themselves and I can't stop black on black violence which accounts for the vast majority of the violence against black victims.

    Is there racism in America today? Sure, but it's not as bad as it was when I was a child, and the hypocritical behaviors of the black community are a *huge* part of the problem, particularly when they ignore their own internal problems and try to blame everyone else for them.
     
  9. timothyu

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    Hence the Blexit movement to counteract BLM, trying to get across to them they are already freed (twice) and all have the same educational opportunity to better their lives, if not in a homogeneous world then at least one of their own making that builds rather than destroys.
     
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  10. Michael

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    FYI, I *greatly* admire(d) MLK, his message of non violence and his appeal to our higher moral values.

    On the other hand, I'm disgusted and appalled by the riots every time something bad happens to a black man at the hands of a white officer. You don't see the white community looting stores and burning down their own neighborhoods every time a white victim dies at the hands of a black officer and you know that happens occasionally too.
     
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    The millions needed to fund it and co-ordinate it are not grassroots. There lies the truth of what the purpose of BLM is (one of many organizations withg the same purpose) and for the most part it has been destabilizing, just as has been happening in other countries around the world. A destabilization of nations serves only one purpose, global government.
     
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    MLK achieved his goal. Sadly the people don't want to take advantage of it. Candice Owens speaks out but is ridiculed because she says the movement already has the opportunity to flourish and all they have to do is get busy and be productive. The movement prefers to see itself as downtrodden and oppressed. Basically falling for the same lies the systems have been telling them for centuries,.
     
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  13. grasping the after wind

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    White people are ill equipped to solve the problems in the black community.
     
  14. Michael

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    Exactly. Yes, black lives matter, in fact all lives matter. The only one who can stop the *vast* majority of the problem of the extinguishing of black lives is the black community themselves.
     
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    Doesn't serve the purpose of a so called liberal agenda.
     
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    And how do they do that? By following those who claim they are oppressed to justify their profitable culture of gloried rebellion or those who have already set the example and risen to the same heights as everyone else by taking advantage of the same education? History ids full of the same two examples of those taking shortcuts and those who work to achieve. Appealing to the pop and gang culture or actually reaching the stars.
     
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  17. Michael

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    When was the last time you saw a march organized on the topic of *black violence*?
     
  18. grasping the after wind

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    Ever since the Civil War, both malevolent and well meaning white people have acted like blacks needed them to solve their problems for them and somehow they have convinced a lot of black people that they were helpless to do so themselves. Do those white people even ever listen to what black people have to say on the subject?
     
  19. timothyu

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    BINGO. The downfall of every race, creed and empire.
     
  20. timothyu

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    I haven't which shows the motivation behind those funding BLM is not what it seems. Sooner or later BLM will wake up and realize they've been had.
     
  21. Michael

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    Thanks for that reference by the way.
     
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