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Proverbs 10:17 He is in the way of life that keepeth instruction: but he that refuseth reproof erreth.
Amen to that !
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Proverbs 10:17 He is in the way of life that keepeth instruction: but he that refuseth reproof erreth.
Amen to that !
Think for a moment, do you really believe that flesh comes to worship before the Lord on one day ?
The Lord sought Spirit to worship Him, on each and every day, for ever.
Isaiah 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.
John 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
Proverbs 10:17 He is in the way of life that keepeth instruction: but he that refuseth reproof erreth.
Again in answer to your words, that, " that point is irrefutable"
2 Timothy 4:I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
1. We already worship God every day - "in the flesh" (as in "real life") .
2. And we already come before God "from Sabbath to Sabbath" to worship -- "in the flesh" (as in "in real life").
And many people gather for worship each week on a day that is not the Bible Sabbath.
So there is nothing about having an actual body that means that sort of thing can't happen.
1 Cor 15 says there are two actual physical bodies
Worshipping in the Spirit is what God sought,
God is not talking about killing ourselves...
We worship God in spirit and truth every day... in real life.
So "yes" Isaiah and his readers would have known about "coming before God to worship from Sabbath to Sabbath" Is 66:23 even if it was for all eternity after the cross as Is 66:22-23 predicts in the New Earth.
We are talking about real worship, in real life --- on real earth
No wonder we have "from Sabbath to Sabbath shall all mankind come before Me to worship" for all eternity after the cross in the New Earth in Is 66:22-23.
One cannot simply assume we believe those scriptures to be "false doctrine"
Yes your way is to chop off all words but eight words of what I had spoken about.
We hear how God dwells not in temples made with hands
Do you think you will support from one new moon to another, the necessity of sabbath days, or of judging what men should eat
And still - we attend worship service each week. So did Jesus according to the Gospels and so did Paul according to Acts 18:4
I think I will show the obvious point from Is 66:22-23 that for all eternity after the cross in the New Earth - "ALL MANKIND" will be coming before God to worship from Sabbath to Sabbath. And that this fact is incredibly obvious from the text itself ... EVEN if one "does not like it".
Acts 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.
5 And when Silas and Timotheus were come from Macedonia, Paul was pressed in the spirit, and testified to the Jews that Jesus was Christ.
Galatians 4:9 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?
10 Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.
Colossians 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
Good text it shows that each Sabbath as they preached the Gospel both gentiles and Jews were being convinced to accept Christ as the Messiah of scripture - and yet they are there - "every Sabbath".
There is nothing there about getting folks to stop worshipping "every Sabbath" and there is no "come join us in our service tomorrow at such-and-such a place". Rather we have "every Sabbath" services, Gospel preaching and people are being convinced to join - still attending "every Sabbath".
A great text condemning pagan holy days. Not condemning scripture. (Had you read more context)
Paul writes to the gentile church in Galatia (church of former pagans that then turn to be Christian)
Gal 4:
6 ... you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, crying out, “Abba! Father!” 7 Therefore you are no longer a slave, but a son; and if a son, then an heir through God.
8 However at that time, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those which by nature are not gods.
(that would be paganism)
9 But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God,
(that would be Christianity)
how is it that you turn back again to the weak and worthless elementary principles, to which you want to be enslaved all over again?
(that would be condemning the "return again" back to pagan practices" - rather than a condemnation of the Word of God as if God's Word is another form of paganism)
10 You meticulously observe days and months and seasons and years. 11 I fear for you, that perhaps I have labored over you in vain.
(that would be pagan holy days ... the observance of even one is being condemned)
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Interesting that you would want the focus on "that text".
By contrast to the Gal 4 condemnation of observing even one pagan day -- we look at Rom 14 speaking of the Bible APPROVED annual holy days of Lev 23 and defending ALL of them such that the condemnation of even ONE of them is an act of judging that Paul condemns in Rom 14.
5 One person observes one day over another, another observes every day. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 The one who observes the day, observes it for the Lord,
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10 But as for you, why do you judge your brother or sister? Or you as well, why do you regard your brother or sister with contempt? For we will all appear before the judgment seat of God.
A great example of Paul not condemning the Word of God (had you included more context) but instead condemning the practice of "making stuff up" via man-made tradition as well as condemning the same judgment Christ condemns before the cross ever happens in Matt 7 "judge not".
Col 2 - condemning tradition and "making stuff up"
8 See to it that there is no one who takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception in accordance with human tradition, in accordance with the elementary principles of the world, rather than in accordance with Christ. ..No wonder Is 66:22-23 reminds us that for all eternity after the cross -- in the New Earth, ALL mankind comes before God to worship "from Sabbath to Sabbath"
16 Therefore, no one is to act as your judge in regard to food and drink, or in respect to a festival or a new moon, or a sabbath day— 17 things which are only a shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ. 18 Take care that no one keeps defrauding you of your prize by delighting in humility and the worship of the angels, taking his stand on visions he has seen, inflated without cause by his fleshly mind, 19 and not holding firmly to the head, from whom the entire body, being supplied and held together by the joints and ligaments, grows with a growth which is from God.
20 If you have died with Christ to the elementary principles of the world, why, as if you were living in the world, do you submit yourself to decrees, such as, 21 “Do not handle, do not taste, do not touch!” 22 (which all refer to things destined to perish with use)—in accordance with the commandments and teachings of man? 23 These are matters which do have the appearance of wisdom in self-made religion and humility and severe treatment of the body, but are of no value against fleshly indulgence.