The History of Man (part 3)

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The Fourth Kingdom of Heaven



Christian theology (both Catholic and Protestant) always understood the reality of the first three
"Kingdoms of Heaven", and history (reality) confirms this to be the truth. But Christian eschatology
never understood that, when the Great Commission was finished – and all the Last Saints were "sealed",
the (3rd) Christian “Kingdom of Heaven” would END. God would then withdraw His Holy Spirit from the
Christian Kingdom – and the FOURTHKingdom of Heaven” would begin, as Satan is "loosened" from the
Bottomless Pit and given “dominion” (rule) over the “wise and foolish virgins” during Satan’s "Little Season".


Mat 25:1-2
THEN
shall the [Great Tribulation] Kingdom of Heaven be likened unto [look like] TEN VIRGINS,
which took their lamps [their Gospels], and WENT FORTH [from the 3rd Kingdom, into the 4th Kingdom]
to meet the bridegroom [Jesus]. And five of them were wise [saved wheat], and five were foolish [unsaved tares].


The "THEN" in Matthew 25:1 is NOT the start of the (2nd) Jewish Kingdom – or (3rd) Christian Kingdom
(at Pentecost). Instead, it's the start of Daniel's Fourth (Great Tribulation) "Kingdom of Heaven".
It's the start of Satan’s “Little Season”. It’s the rising of the 7-Headed Revelation Beast.
It begins the reign of the Anti-Christ for 3.5 “times/days/years/watches of the night”.


Dan 7:23
Thus he said, The Fourth Beast shall be the Fourth Kingdom upon earth,
which shall be diverse [different] from all [the other three] Kingdoms, and shall devour
the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.



The “THEN” in Matthew 25:1 is when all of the Last Saints “went forth” with the Beast.
Before we can understand when, in history, the “THEN” occurs… we must first be able to discern
where the Last Saints “went forth” from (3rd Kingdom), and where they “went forth” into (4th Kingdom).
We must be able to discern the context of the passage, as it relates to Daniel’s Fourth Kingdom of Heaven”.


Only the Last Saints are able understand the context of there being four “Kingdoms/Beasts” upon the earth.
The churches thought “Time-of-the-End” passages applied to their (3rd) Christian Kingdom, just as Temples
thought “Time-of-the-End” passages applied to their (2nd) Jewish Kingdom. However, the Bible promised
the truth about the “Time-of-the-End” would remain “closed-up” and “sealed” to all the Saints – until
the Last Saints “shall understand”. All “Time-of-the-End” passages are related to Daniel’s Fourth
Kingdom of Heaven” on earth, not the Third Beast.


Most New Testament “experts” claim the events in Matthew 25:1-13 are experiences of the New Testament church.
In other words, they think “THEN” is Pentecost when the early Saints “went forth” preaching the Great Commission.
But that’s not possible within the context of the passage. First, Matthew chapters 24 and 25 are revealing events within
the Great Tribulation, so the context of “THEN” would be that (4th) Great Tribulation “Kingdom of Heaven” [Mat 25:1],
instead of Pentecost in 33AD. But there’s much more – the events of the parable/prophecy never happened in history!
And no Christian church is teaching these critically important events happen in the future of the Christian Kingdom.


Mat 25:8-10
And the [unsaved] foolish [virgins] said unto the [saved] wise [virgins], Give us of your oil; for our lamps
are gone out. But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather
to them that sell, and buy for yourselves. And while they went to buy, the Bridegroom [Jesus] came; and they that
were ready [the Wise Virgins] went in with Him [with Jesus] to the Marriage: and the Door was Shut.


There is no time in history (since Pentecost) when the Saints REJECTED people looking for salvation, sending them
to some other (unnamed) group for their salvation. That just never happened in history (reality) during the period of the
Great Commission. And no “Christian” Gospel now teaches these events happen in the future. However, these events
happen exactly that way during the Great Tribulation… as the “wheat” and “tares” are separated in the “final harvest”.
Only after we understand the context of Daniel’s Fourth “Kingdom” can we know when “THEN” occurs in time.


In fact, the parable/prophecy of the Ten Virgins, during the Great Tribulation “Kingdom of Heaven” [Mat 25:1],
is actually a brief outline of events occurring during the Fourth Kingdom on earth. The Ten Virgins represent
the “wheat and tares” in the church that God “harvests” into the Fourth Kingdom. Some are saved “wheat” and
others are unsaved “tares”. The Christian church has always consisted of both saved “wheat” and unsaved “tares”.


Context #1: Perspectives on the Fourth “Kingdom of Heaven”


In the Bible, the Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" is shown as (1) Daniel's Fourth Beast and (2) the 7-Headed Revelations Beast.
It's shown as (3) the Great Tribulation Kingdom. It's shown as (4) the Reign of the Anti-Christ during (5) Satan's "Little Season".
That means we can harmonize passages about Daniel's Fourth Beast with passages about the Revelation Beast and passages
on the Great Tribulation. We can see EVENTS occurring in Daniel's Fourth Beast shown as events occurring during the Great Tribulation
and Revelation Beast. This is fortunate as it provides us with several different perspectives, and much better understanding about
the same Biblical events.


In other words, the people living during Daniel's Fourth Beast - are the same people alive during the 7-Headed Revelations Beast,
and the same people living through the Great Tribulation Kingdom, and the same people alive during the Reign of the Anti-Christ.
The people living in Daniel's Fourth Kingdom are the same people who are "overcome" and "killed" during Satan's "Little Season".


In Daniel 7… these people are called "ten kings" and "ten horns" that agree to give their “Kingdom" to the "Little Horn".
In Rev. 17… these people are called "ten kings" and "ten horns" that agree to give their "Kingdom" to the Revelation "Beast".
In Mat. 25 … these same people are called the "ten virgins" that "went forth" into the Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven".
In Daniel 2… the same people are called the "ten toes" and the "ten kings" (v44) alive at the START of the Eternal "Kingdom".


We can know, absolutely, that these are the same people because, in each case, they are the people living on earth
when the Lord Jesus Christ Returns to destroy Satan – and also establish His (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven".
In each case they are the same people who are part of the historical fulfillment of Great Tribulation prophecies.


Moreover, Daniel's Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" is also shown from five different perspectives, demonstrating different aspects
of the (4th) Great Tribulation Kingdom. It's not possible to find more than partial-truths about the Fourth Kingdom unless/until
we harmonize all relevant Scriptures – which includes over twenty-four passages showing the Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" as:


(1) The Last Kingdom - consisting of Ten "Horns/Kings/Virgins" who God leads to "agree to give their Kingdom to the Beast".
(2) The Dual Kingdoms - consisting of two "Trumpets", two "Woes", two "Heads/Kings", and two separate and distinct "Beasts".
(3) The Four Watches of the Night - in which the Anti-Christ "overcomes" the Saints for a period called 3.5 "times/days/years".
(4) The Completed Kingdom - having Seven "Heads/Kings", representing all of the "wheat" and "tares" living in each Kingdom.
(5) The Destroyed Kingdom - during the "Time-of-the-End" and "Season and Time" on earth AFTER Daniel's Fourth Kingdom.


Even if we harmonized the passages presenting Daniel's Fourth Beast as being (#1) the Last Kingdom before the Eternal Kingdom,
we still could not find more than partial-truth unless we also harmonize all the passages presenting this Last Kingdom as being
(#2) Dual Kingdoms. And, if we harmonize all those Scriptures, at best we would only have partial-truth until we also harmonize
all passages presenting Daniel's Fourth Kingdom as being (#3) four separate and distinct "Watches of the Night". And even then,
after harmonizing these three different perspectives of Daniel's Fourth Kingdom, we still would only have some partial-truths...
until we also harmonize the passages showing the Great Tribulation Beast as being (#4) the Completed Kingdom of Seven "Heads",
and then as (#5) the Destroyed Kingdom during the "Season and Time" on earth AFTER the Great Tribulation has been completed.


More than that, each one of those five perspectives are supported by MANY PASSAGES of Scripture showing more information
about that particular Biblical Truth. For example: Not only does the Bible show Daniel's Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" from the
perspective of (#1) The Last Kingdom before the Lord's Return - consisting of "Ten Virgins" and "Ten Kings" and "Ten Horns",
these same people are shown in other passages (by many different names) and each passage must be harmonized to have Truth.
Below is a (partial) list of Biblical names given – to represent the people living during Daniel's Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven".


The "Kingdom" which the Anti-Christ "obtains with flatteries" [Dan 11]
The "Mighty and Holy People" who are "destroyed" by the Anti-Christ [Dan 8]
The "Sanctuary and Host" that are "trodden under foot" by the Anti-Christ [Dan 8]
The "Holy City" which the Anti-Christ "treads under foot" for 42 months/3.5 years [Rev 11]
The "Kings" that are "given into his hand" (the Anti-Christ's hand) for 3.5 "times" [Dan 7]
The "Holy People" whose "power is scattered" by the Anti-Christ for 3.5 "times" [Dan 12]
The "Woman" which is hidden from the face of the "serpent" for 3.5 "times" [Rev 12]
The "Witnesses" which are "overcome" and "killed" by Satan for 3.5 "days" [Rev 11]
The "Kingdom" which is "overflown" and "broken" by the Anti-Christ [Dan 11]
The "Host and the Stars" that are "cast down" by the Anti-Christ [Dan 8]


While the people alive during Daniel's Fourth Kingdom are shown [Mat 25] as the "Ten Virgins" that "went forth"
into the 4th Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven"... and they are shown [Dan 7] as the "Ten Kings" and "Ten Horns"
that were "given into the hand" of the Anti-Christ... and they are shown [Rev 17] as the "Ten Kings" and the "Ten Horns"
that "agreed to give their Kingdom to the Beast", the Bible contains (literally) DOZENS of other passages that talk about
these same people, and every one of the passages must be harmonized before we can pretend to have more than partial-truth.


We have clearly shown the History of Man is the reflection of God’s Salvation Plan over four separate “Kingdoms”.
And we have seen the Gospel of EACH of those four separate and distinct “Beasts” is unique to that “Kingdom”.
The Bible provides a lot of information about the Gospel of the Old Testament Jewish Saints. And the Bible
provides a lot of information about the Gospel of the New Testament Christian Saints. However, the Bible
also includes important information that’s revealed in the unique Gospel of the Last Saints on earth.


Rev 10:7, 11
But in the days of the voice of the Seventh Angel, when he shall begin to sound,
the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.



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The Fourth Kingdom of Heaven



Christian theology (both Catholic and Protestant) always understood the reality of the first three
"Kingdoms of Heaven", and history (reality) confirms this to be the truth. But Christian eschatology
never understood that, when the Great Commission was finished – and all the Last Saints were "sealed",
the (3rd) Christian “Kingdom of Heaven” would END. God would then withdraw His Holy Spirit from the
Christian Kingdom – and the FOURTHKingdom of Heaven” would begin, as Satan is "loosened" from the
Bottomless Pit and given “dominion” (rule) over the “wise and foolish virgins” during Satan’s "Little Season".


Mat 25:1-2
THEN
shall the [Great Tribulation] Kingdom of Heaven be likened unto [look like] TEN VIRGINS,
which took their lamps [their Gospels], and WENT FORTH [from the 3rd Kingdom, into the 4th Kingdom]
to meet the bridegroom [Jesus]. And five of them were wise [saved wheat], and five were foolish [unsaved tares].



The "THEN" in Matthew 25:1 is NOT the start of the (2nd) Jewish Kingdom – or (3rd) Christian Kingdom
(at Pentecost). Instead, it's the start of Daniel's Fourth (Great Tribulation) "Kingdom of Heaven".
It's the start of Satan’s “Little Season”. It’s the rising of the 7-Headed Revelation Beast.
It begins the reign of the Anti-Christ for 3.5 “times/days/years/watches of the night”.


Dan 7:23
Thus he said, The Fourth Beast shall be the Fourth Kingdom upon earth,
which shall be diverse [different] from all [the other three] Kingdoms, and shall devour
the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.



The “THEN” in Matthew 25:1 is when all of the Last Saints “went forth” with the Beast.
Before we can understand when, in history, the “THEN” occurs… we must first be able to discern
where the Last Saints “went forth” from (3rd Kingdom), and where they “went forth” into (4th Kingdom).
We must be able to discern the context of the passage, as it relates to Daniel’s Fourth Kingdom of Heaven”.


Only the Last Saints are able understand the context of there being four “Kingdoms/Beasts” upon the earth.
The churches thought “Time-of-the-End” passages applied to their (3rd) Christian Kingdom, just as Temples
thought “Time-of-the-End” passages applied to their (2nd) Jewish Kingdom. However, the Bible promised
the truth about the “Time-of-the-End” would remain “closed-up” and “sealed” to all the Saints – until
the Last Saints “shall understand”. All “Time-of-the-End” passages are related to Daniel’s Fourth
Kingdom of Heaven” on earth, not the Third Beast.


Most New Testament “experts” claim the events in Matthew 25:1-13 are experiences of the New Testament church.
In other words, they think “THEN” is Pentecost when the early Saints “went forth” preaching the Great Commission.
But that’s not possible within the context of the passage. First, Matthew chapters 24 and 25 are revealing events within
the Great Tribulation, so the context of “THEN” would be that (4th) Great Tribulation “Kingdom of Heaven” [Mat 25:1],
instead of Pentecost in 33AD. But there’s much more – the events of the parable/prophecy never happened in history!
And no Christian church is teaching these critically important events happen in the future of the Christian Kingdom.


Mat 25:8-10
And the [unsaved] foolish [virgins] said unto the [saved] wise [virgins], Give us of your oil; for our lamps
are gone out. But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather
to them that sell, and buy for yourselves. And while they went to buy, the Bridegroom [Jesus] came; and they that
were ready [the Wise Virgins] went in with Him [with Jesus] to the Marriage: and the Door was Shut.



There is no time in history (since Pentecost) when the Saints REJECTED people looking for salvation, sending them
to some other (unnamed) group for their salvation. That just never happened in history (reality) during the period of the
Great Commission. And no “Christian” Gospel now teaches these events happen in the future. However, these events
happen exactly that way during the Great Tribulation… as the “wheat” and “tares” are separated in the “final harvest”.
Only after we understand the context of Daniel’s Fourth “Kingdom” can we know when “THEN” occurs in time.


In fact, the parable/prophecy of the Ten Virgins, during the Great Tribulation “Kingdom of Heaven” [Mat 25:1],
is actually a brief outline of events occurring during the Fourth Kingdom on earth. The Ten Virgins represent
the “wheat and tares” in the church that God “harvests” into the Fourth Kingdom. Some are saved “wheat” and
others are unsaved “tares”. The Christian church has always consisted of both saved “wheat” and unsaved “tares”.


Context #1: Perspectives on the Fourth “Kingdom of Heaven”


In the Bible, the Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" is shown as (1) Daniel's Fourth Beast and (2) the 7-Headed Revelations Beast.
It's shown as (3) the Great Tribulation Kingdom. It's shown as (4) the Reign of the Anti-Christ during (5) Satan's "Little Season".
That means we can harmonize passages about Daniel's Fourth Beast with passages about the Revelation Beast and passages
on the Great Tribulation. We can see EVENTS occurring in Daniel's Fourth Beast shown as events occurring during the Great Tribulation
and Revelation Beast. This is fortunate as it provides us with several different perspectives, and much better understanding about
the same Biblical events.


In other words, the people living during Daniel's Fourth Beast - are the same people alive during the 7-Headed Revelations Beast,
and the same people living through the Great Tribulation Kingdom, and the same people alive during the Reign of the Anti-Christ.
The people living in Daniel's Fourth Kingdom are the same people who are "overcome" and "killed" during Satan's "Little Season".


In Daniel 7… these people are called "ten kings" and "ten horns" that agree to give their “Kingdom" to the "Little Horn".
In Rev. 17… these people are called "ten kings" and "ten horns" that agree to give their "Kingdom" to the Revelation "Beast".
In Mat. 25 … these same people are called the "ten virgins" that "went forth" into the Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven".
In Daniel 2… the same people are called the "ten toes" and the "ten kings" (v44) alive at the START of the Eternal "Kingdom".


We can know, absolutely, that these are the same people because, in each case, they are the people living on earth
when the Lord Jesus Christ Returns to destroy Satan – and also establish His (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven".
In each case they are the same people who are part of the historical fulfillment of Great Tribulation prophecies.


Moreover, Daniel's Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" is also shown from five different perspectives, demonstrating different aspects
of the (4th) Great Tribulation Kingdom. It's not possible to find more than partial-truths about the Fourth Kingdom unless/until
we harmonize all relevant Scriptures – which includes over twenty-four passages showing the Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" as:


(1) The Last Kingdom - consisting of Ten "Horns/Kings/Virgins" who God leads to "agree to give their Kingdom to the Beast".
(2) The Dual Kingdoms - consisting of two "Trumpets", two "Woes", two "Heads/Kings", and two separate and distinct "Beasts".
(3) The Four Watches of the Night - in which the Anti-Christ "overcomes" the Saints for a period called 3.5 "times/days/years".
(4) The Completed Kingdom - having Seven "Heads/Kings", representing all of the "wheat" and "tares" living in each Kingdom.
(5) The Destroyed Kingdom - during the "Time-of-the-End" and "Season and Time" on earth AFTER Daniel's Fourth Kingdom.


Even if we harmonized the passages presenting Daniel's Fourth Beast as being (#1) the Last Kingdom before the Eternal Kingdom,
we still could not find more than partial-truth unless we also harmonize all the passages presenting this Last Kingdom as being
(#2) Dual Kingdoms. And, if we harmonize all those Scriptures, at best we would only have partial-truth until we also harmonize
all passages presenting Daniel's Fourth Kingdom as being (#3) four separate and distinct "Watches of the Night". And even then,
after harmonizing these three different perspectives of Daniel's Fourth Kingdom, we still would only have some partial-truths...
until we also harmonize the passages showing the Great Tribulation Beast as being (#4) the Completed Kingdom of Seven "Heads",
and then as (#5) the Destroyed Kingdom during the "Season and Time" on earth AFTER the Great Tribulation has been completed.


More than that, each one of those five perspectives are supported by MANY PASSAGES of Scripture showing more information
about that particular Biblical Truth. For example: Not only does the Bible show Daniel's Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" from the
perspective of (#1) The Last Kingdom before the Lord's Return - consisting of "Ten Virgins" and "Ten Kings" and "Ten Horns",
these same people are shown in other passages (by many different names) and each passage must be harmonized to have Truth.
Below is a (partial) list of Biblical names given – to represent the people living during Daniel's Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven".


The "Kingdom" which the Anti-Christ "obtains with flatteries" [Dan 11]
The "Mighty and Holy People" who are "destroyed" by the Anti-Christ [Dan 8]
The "Sanctuary and Host" that are "trodden under foot" by the Anti-Christ [Dan 8]
The "Holy City" which the Anti-Christ "treads under foot" for 42 months/3.5 years [Rev 11]
The "Kings" that are "given into his hand" (the Anti-Christ's hand) for 3.5 "times" [Dan 7]
The "Holy People" whose "power is scattered" by the Anti-Christ for 3.5 "times" [Dan 12]
The "Woman" which is hidden from the face of the "serpent" for 3.5 "times" [Rev 12]
The "Witnesses" which are "overcome" and "killed" by Satan for 3.5 "days" [Rev 11]
The "Kingdom" which is "overflown" and "broken" by the Anti-Christ [Dan 11]
The "Host and the Stars" that are "cast down" by the Anti-Christ [Dan 8]


While the people alive during Daniel's Fourth Kingdom are shown [Mat 25] as the "Ten Virgins" that "went forth"
into the 4th Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven"... and they are shown [Dan 7] as the "Ten Kings" and "Ten Horns"
that were "given into the hand" of the Anti-Christ... and they are shown [Rev 17] as the "Ten Kings" and the "Ten Horns"
that "agreed to give their Kingdom to the Beast", the Bible contains (literally) DOZENS of other passages that talk about
these same people, and every one of the passages must be harmonized before we can pretend to have more than partial-truth.


We have clearly shown the History of Man is the reflection of God’s Salvation Plan over four separate “Kingdoms”.
And we have seen the Gospel of EACH of those four separate and distinct “Beasts” is unique to that “Kingdom”.
The Bible provides a lot of information about the Gospel of the Old Testament Jewish Saints. And the Bible
provides a lot of information about the Gospel of the New Testament Christian Saints. However, the Bible
also includes important information that’s revealed in the unique Gospel of the Last Saints on earth.


Rev 10:7, 11
But in the days of the voice of the Seventh Angel, when he shall begin to sound,
the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.



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About 100 views and not ONE VERSE offered to refute anything said.
Don't feel bad, this information was provided to over 200 theologians in the best Seminaries in America
and NONE of them could refute the information... so it's not likely someone on this forum can.

Jim
The Bible prophets can refute your confused and error ridden end times theories.
Your AMill belief is a crock and is patently; obviously wrong.

Here is a Biblically supported end times sequence:
This is the situation today:
The enemies of the Lord gather - Micah 4:11-12, Ezekiel 36:2

They conspire to attack Israel - Psalms 83:1-8, Isaiah 21:2

They prepare their weapons - Psalms 7:12, Ezekiel 7:14

Soon to commence and take place as Prophesied:
At the moment of attack, God will use His Creation, the sun to send fire - Deuteronomy 32:22 & 34-43, Isaiah 30:26 & 30, Psalms 11:4-6, Isaiah 66:15-17, 2 Peter 3:7, Amos 1:1-15 & 2:1-5 , Psalms 50:1-3, Zephaniah 3:8, Revelation 6:12-17

The suns surface will explode with an extremely bright flash and the moon will reflect bright red
- Isaiah 30:26, Joel 2:31, Acts 2:20, Habakkuk 3:4-5

The Lord will make their weapons recoil upon themselves, the Electro-Magnetic Pulse hit will cause them to explode - Psalms 7:13-16, Joel 3:4, Obadiah 15

Then the sun, moon and stars will be obscured by the approaching Coronal Mass Ejection - Psalms 18:11-12, Isaiah 13:9-13, Ezekiel 32:7-8, Amos 8:9

A huge superhot mass of hydrogen plasma approaches the earth – Joel 1:15-20, Malachi 4:1, Zephaniah 1:14-18

Everyone on earth will be shocked and terrified - Jeremiah 6:24-26, Ezekiel 21:5-7a, Isaiah 13:6-8, Revelation 6:15-17

The atmosphere will be pushed aside – Revelation 6:14, 2 Peter 3:10, Isaiah 34:4

The whole earth will be enveloped by fire - Isaiah 66:15, Zeph. 3:8, 2 Peter 3:7

In the Holy Land, only a remnant will survive - Zechariah 13:8-9, Isaiah 6:11-13

He will punish His enemies, the attackers of Israel- Psalms 83, Isaiah 63:1-6, Habakkuk 3:12, Revelation 14 18-20, Isaiah 66:17, Isaiah 29:20-21, Hebrews 10:27

His enemies will become ashes - Malachi 4:3, Ezekiel 30:1-5, Jeremiah 49:2, Matthew 3:12b

Millions will die around the world - Psalms 97:3-5, Jeremiah 25:33, Isaiah 13:12

The Lord will protect those who call to Him - Isaiah 43:2, Joel 2:32, Acts 2:21

But most people will take shelter until it passes. Isaiah 2:19, Revelation 6:15

The survivors will form a One World Govt. - Daniel 7:23-24, Revelation 17:12

The Holy Land will be regenerated - Ezekiel 36:8, Joel 2:21-24, Isaiah 35:1-10, Amos 9:13-15, Jeremiah 33:12-14

And the Lord's faithful Christian people will gather there. - Psalms 107, Isaiah 35:1-10, Ezekiel 34:11-16, Isaiah 66:18b-21, Revelation 7:9-14

They will become the new nation of Beulah - Isaiah 62:1-5, Ezekiel 36:3-38, Jeremiah 31

They will build a new Temple – Zechariah 6:15, Haggai 2:9, Ezekiel 40 to 48

The attack by a Northern army will be won by the Lord – Ezekiel 38:22, Joel 2:20

The leaders of Beulah will break the Covenant with the Lord and sign a 7 year peace treaty with the leader of the O.W.G. Daniel 9:27, Isaiah 28:14-15

At the midpoint he will break the treaty and conquer Beulah-Daniel 9:27, Zechariah 14:1-2

This commences the 7 Trumpets and 7 Bowls of the Great Tribulation - Rev 8:2 to Rev 19:10

Those who kept their faith in God will be taken to a safe place on earth. Daniel 11:32b, Revelation 12:14

3.5 years later, Jesus will Return in His glory, for His Millennial reign - Revelation 19:11-21, Matthew 24:30-31, Zechariah 14:3-4

A thousand years later, the events of Revelation 20:7-15 will take place. Then comes Eternity.



The Lord has told us His plans and He will not relent or change them - Jeremiah 4:28

There are plenty more prophecies and scriptures to prove this scenario.

Believe it or not it’s up to everyone to decide! Psalms 19:11-12, Isaiah 48:6
 
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The Bible prophets can refute your confused and error ridden end times theories.
Your AMill belief is a crock and is patently; obviously wrong.

Please do not hold back your "feelings".
I assume you already know the A-Millennial position is the "traditional" view of the church.
I do not imply that PROVES anything... except our attitude is completely inappropriate.


Here is a Biblically supported end times sequence:
This is the situation today:

Before you start...
how about you tell me about the "times" BEFORE the situation today...


Do you understand the first "Beast" on earth was the (1st) Pre-Flood Kingdom
Do you understand the second "Beast" one earth was the (2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven" [Mat 22:2]
Do you understand the third "Beast" on earth was the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" [Mat 13, in 7 verses]
Do you understand the fourth "Beast" on earth was the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" [Mat 15:1]


Please note... it is JESUS that specifically NAMED these "Beasts" as being different "Kingdoms of Heaven"...
those are not my words, these are the Words of Christ.


Tell me sir... does your eschatology AGREE with the Words of Christ?


The enemies of the Lord gather - Micah 4:11-12, Ezekiel 36:2
They conspire to attack Israel - Psalms 83:1-8, Isaiah 21:2
They prepare their weapons - Psalms 7:12, Ezekiel 7:14


Of course the PROBLEM with your understanding is you FAIL to harmonize it with ALL RELATED SCRIPTURE.
It is so strange that you do not use New Testament passages to support your theories.

Why is that?


The Bible is clear about the chronology of the History of Man. The Bible insists that the Great Commission
of the Church Age continues until the "End of the Age"


Mat 28:18-20
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always,

even unto the END OF THE AGE. Amen.


Then, AFTER the "End of the Age", AFTER the Last Saint has been "sealed" (saved)
THEN (and only then) can the Great Tribulation "Kingdom" begin:


Rev 7:1-3
And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth,
that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. And I saw another angel ascending from the east,
having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees,
till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.


This is an essential element of the Gospel...
The (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom" cannot BEGIN until the Last Saint has been "sealed"...


And THEN Satan is loosened from the Bottomless Pit to RULE during his "Little Season"


Let me ask you this question (I thought I already asked it - but you ignored me)
Do you understand that the Bible shows the FOURTH KINGDOM on earth as:


(1) Daniel's Fourth Beast
(2) the Revelation Beast
(3) the Great Tribulation "Kingdom"
(4) the RULE of the Anti-Christ (Little Horn, False Prophet, Man of Sin)
(5) during Satan's "Little Season" AFTER being released from the Bottomless Pit.


Do you understand this Biblical reality.
If not, then you are neither qualified or capable of offering an "informed opinon"
on the Fourth Beast or the "Time-of-the-End"... it's really as simple as that.


As to the rest of your post...
your opinions are meaning less unless/until you understand the issues above.
Secondly... you CLEARLY cannot discern spiritual language from literal language.



The survivors will form a One World Govt. - Daniel 7:23-24, Revelation 17:12


LOL... that is hilarious.


Dan 7:23-24
Thus he said, The FOURTH BEAST shall be the FOURTH KINGDOM upon earth, which shall be diverse from
all
[the other three] Kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
And the
TEN HORNS out of this kingdom are TEN KINGS that shall arise: and another [Little Horn] shall rise after them;
and he [the Little Horn] shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.


Daniel 7:23-24 is taking about events in the FOURTH KINGDOM (the Great Tribulation Kingdom)
which IMMEDIATELY precedes the (3rd) Christian Kingdom of the Great Commission.


As we have already seen above [Rev 7:1-3] the Great Tribulation Kingdom or the Revelation Beast
BEGINS immediately AFTER the Last Saint has been "sealed"...
this is WHY you must harmonize ALL RELATED passages.
You have FAILED to harmonize anything.



BTW... the Ten "Kings/Horns" of Daniel 7 are also shown as the Ten "Kings/Horns" of Rev 17.
They represent the LAST "wheat and tares" that are "harvested" OUT of the Third Kingdom
and INTO the Fourth Kingdom. The Last Saints are PART of these Ten "Kings/Horns"...
also shown as the "Ten Virgins"


Mat 25:1-2
THEN shall the [Great Tribulation] Kingdom of Heaven be likened unto [look like] TEN VIRGINS,
which took their lamps [their Gospels], and WENT FORTH [from the 3rd Kingdom, into the 4th Kingdom]
to meet the bridegroom [Jesus]. And five of them were wise [saved wheat], and five were foolish [unsaved tares].


The "THEN" in Matthew 25:1 is NOT the start of the (2nd) Jewish Kingdom – or (3rd) Christian Kingdom
(at Pentecost). Instead, it's the start of Daniel's Fourth (Great Tribulation) "Kingdom of Heaven".
It's the start of Satan’s “Little Season”. It’s the rising of the 7-Headed Revelation Beast.
It begins the reign of the Anti-Christ for 3.5 “times/days/years/watches of the night”.


The “THEN” in Matthew 25:1 is when all of the Last Saints “went forth” with the Beast.
Before we can understand when, in history, the “THEN” occurs… we must first be able to discern
where the Last Saints “went forth” from (3rd Kingdom), and where they “went forth” into (4th Kingdom).
We must be able to discern the context of the passage, as it relates to Daniel’s Fourth Kingdom of Heaven”.


Only the Last Saints are able understand the context of there being four “Kingdoms/Beasts” upon the earth.
The churches thought “Time-of-the-End” passages applied to their (3rd) Christian Kingdom, just as Temples thought
Time-of-the-End” passages applied to their (2nd) Jewish Kingdom. However, the Bible promised the truth about the
Time-of-the-End” would remain “closed-up” and “sealed” to all the Saints – until the Last Saints “shall understand”.


All “Time-of-the-End” passages are related to Daniel’s Fourth Kingdom of Heaven” on earth, not the Third Beast.



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Christian theology (both Catholic and Protestant) always understood the reality of the first three
"Kingdoms of Heaven", and history (reality) confirms this to be the truth.
Can you backup this statement that (both Catholic and Protestant)
always understood the reality of "the Pre-Flood Kingdom of Heaven".

You keep saying this was sealed.
 
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Can you backup this statement that (both Catholic and Protestant)
always understood the reality of "the Pre-Flood Kingdom of Heaven".

You keep saying this was sealed.


The A-Millennial Kingdom was not "sealed"...
the Truth of Daniel's Four Beasts was "sealed".
Do not conflate the two

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The A-Millennial Kingdom was not "sealed"...
the Truth of Daniel's Four Beasts was "sealed".
Do not conflate the two

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Ok let's try again.

Can you backup your statement that (both Catholic and Protestant)
always understood the reality of "the Pre-Flood Kingdom of Heaven" ?

You said they always understood the reality of the first three.
 
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Ok let's try again.

Can you backup your statement that (both Catholic and Protestant)
always understood the reality of "the Pre-Flood Kingdom of Heaven" ?

You said they always understood the reality of the first three.


Yes... this is not hard.


The Catholics and Protestants have always understood the existence of Saints from Adam to Noah.
I am not aware of any churches that DENY Saints living BEFORE the Flood...
although there might be such churches - it's not the norm.


Likewise... all the churches understood the existence of the (2nd) Jewish Kingdom


And all the churches understand the Great Commission of the (3rd) Christian Kingdom


Churches have ALWAYS understood the existence of the FIRST THREE Kingdoms on earth...
they just did not


(1) Identify them as Daniel's first three Beasts and


(2) did not understand the (4th) Great Tribulation Kingdom / Revelation Beast was NOT PART of the Church Age...
the Bible clearly teaches it's a separate and distinct Beast/Kingdom that happens
AFTER the Great Commission at the "End of the Age" [Mat 28:18-20]
AFTER the Last Saint has been "sealed" [Rev 7:1-3]


This is called "harmony of Scripture"
It is the ONLY measure of Biblical Truth until He Returns


If you do not have harmony of Scripture - you have contradictions...
showing you have a false doctrine.

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Can you backup this statement that (both Catholic and Protestant)
always understood the reality of "the Pre-Flood Kingdom of Heaven".

You keep saying this was sealed.


The existence of the Pre-Flood Kingdom and Jewish Kingdom and Christian Kingdom was not "sealed".

The understanding that they represented Daniel's first three Beasts was "sealed"
and the understanding Daniel's FOURTH Beast was the Great Tribulation/Revelation Beast/Satan's "Little Season"
was "sealed" until the Last Saints "shall understand" that Biblical mystery at the "Time-of-the-End"


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The Bible prophets can refute your confused and error ridden end times theories.
Your AMill belief is a crock and is patently; obviously wrong.


LOL,
the A-Millennial Kingdom is the Gospel


The (3rd) Christian Kingdom of the Great Commission continues until the "End-of-the-Age" [Mat 28:18-20]
AFTER the "End of the Age" and AFTER the Last Saint has been "sealed" [Rev 7:1-3]

THEN the Great Tribulation/Revelation Beast/Daniels Fourth Beast rises
to RULE the Saints "until the Ancient of Days Came".


Friend,
It does absoletly NOTHING to post 25 verses.


I would welcome an honest discussion with a man of your intelligence.
But let us narrow the subject so we do not throw dozens of verses around.


(1) Would you like to debate the A-Mil position?

(2) Would you like to discuss the Four Beasts?

(3) Would you like to discuss the "Season and Time" on earth AFTER
the Revelation Beast has been destroyed [Dan 7:11-12]


I am an expert on eschatology.
I have been studying it for 40 years.
Let's talk


Jim

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Yes... this is not hard.

The Catholics and Protestants have always understood the existence of Saints from Adam to Noah.
I am not aware of any churches that DENY Saints living BEFORE the Flood...
although there might be such churches - it's not the norm.
That was not the prof I asked for, You made a bold claim. I asked for secular history that you said they
agree about your theory the first beast of Daniel was this preflood [kingdom of heaven on earth] age.
I asked how they can agree on this when only you understand this subject in this end time.

I also said before no one denies there was no saints before the flood, 3 we know of.
What I said was there is nothing in Danial that connects to saints before the flood.

Can you show any secular history that agrees with your view, that the first beast
of Daniel is a preflood [kingdom of heaven on earth] age.?

Can you show any other end time saints that agree with your view?
 
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5thKingdom said:
Yes... this is not hard.

The Catholics and Protestants have always understood the existence of Saints from Adam to Noah.
I am not aware of any churches that DENY Saints living BEFORE the Flood...
although there might be such churches - it's not the norm.


That was not the prof I asked for, You made a bold claim. I asked for secular history that you said they
agree about your theory the first beast of Daniel was this preflood [kingdom of heaven on earth] age.
I asked how they can agree on this when only you understand this subject in this end time.


No, I NEVER said the church understood the First Beast of Daniel being the Pre-Flood Kingdom
You ADDED to my words.

I said the church has always recognized the Pre-Flood Saints as PART of the Eternal Kingdom.
AND the church has always recognized the Pre-Flood Saints were the FIRST Kingdom on earth.

These are FACTS.


I also said before no one denies there was no saints before the flood, 3 we know of.
What I said was there is nothing in Danial that connects to saints before the flood.


Of course Daniel talks about the Saints in the FIRST "Kingdom" or "Beast" on earth.
The Revelation Beast ALSO contains the FIRST "Kingdom" on earth


Rev 13:2
And the [Revelation] Beast which I saw was like unto a leopard [3rd Christian Kingdom], and his feet were as the feet of a bear,
[2nd Jewish Kingdom] and his mouth as the mouth of a lion [first Pre-Flood Kingdom]: and the dragon [Satan]
gave him [the Revelation Beast] his power, and his seat, and great authority.


Dan 7:4-7
The first was like a lion [1st Pre-Flood Kingdom], and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked,
and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it. [after the Fall]
And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear [2nd Jewish Kingdom], and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs
in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh. After this I beheld, and lo another,
like a leopard, [3rd Christian Kingdom] which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it. [during the Great Commission of the Church Age] After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast,
dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue
with the feet of it [during the 4th Great Tribulation Kingdom also shown as the Revelation Beast]: and it was diverse [different]
from all the [other three] beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.


Can you show any secular history that agrees with your view, that the first beast
of Daniel is a preflood [kingdom of heaven on earth] age.?


Sir, HISTORY starts with Adam in the Garden
Is this "news" to you?


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Sir, HISTORY starts with Adam in the Garden
Is this "news" to you?
No of course not, like you I read that from the bible. I asked Can you supply secular.
history [reality] outside of the bible, that HISTORY starts with Adam in the Garden? no
Or secular History about this kingdom of heaven of saints before flood. no
 
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No, I NEVER said the church understood the First Beast of Daniel being the Pre-Flood Kingdom
You ADDED to my words.

I said the church has always recognized the Pre-Flood Saints as PART of the Eternal Kingdom.
AND the church has always recognized the Pre-Flood Saints were the FIRST Kingdom on earth.
The First Kingdom of Heaven

Christian theology (both Catholic and Protestant) has always
understood the reality of the first three “Kingdoms
”.
Both Jewish and Christian Saints understood the first temporal
“Kingdom of Heaven”
(the first “generation” of Saints) was the
Pre-Flood Kingdom, which included all of the Saints living on
the Pre-Flood earth – from Adam until Noah.
Where you not referring the above to Daniels first beast ?
You say over and over this first kingdom is Daniels first beast kingdom.

Of course Daniel talks about the Saints in the FIRST "Kingdom" or "Beast"
on earth. "The Revelation Beast ALSO contains the FIRST "Kingdom" on earth.
Dan 7:4-7 The first was like a lion [1st Pre-Flood Kingdom]

Do you understand the first "Beast" on earth was the
(1st) Pre-Flood Kingdom
Do you understand the second "Beast" one earth was the
(2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven"
Do you understand the third "Beast" on earth was the
(3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven"

Do you understand the fourth "Beast" on earth was the (4th)

I asked for secular history that connects Daniels first beast
to the saints [kingdom of heaven on earth] before the flood. no
 
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5thKingdom said:
Sir, HISTORY starts with Adam in the Garden
Is this "news" to you?



I asked Can you supply secular.


WHY does it matter what secular history says?
It is the BIBLE that establishes TRUTH... not the words of man.

Your comment is off point entirely.

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5thKingdom said:
No, I NEVER said the church understood the First Beast of Daniel being the Pre-Flood Kingdom
You ADDED to my words.

I said the church has always recognized the Pre-Flood Saints as PART of the Eternal Kingdom.
AND the church has always recognized the Pre-Flood Saints were the FIRST Kingdom on earth.


Where you not referring the above to Daniels first beast ?
You say over and over this first kingdom is Daniels first beast kingdom.


Please read my words carefully and DO NOT ADD to them.

I said the church has always recognized the Pre-Flood Saints as PART of the Eternal Kingdom.
AND the church has always recognized the Pre-Flood Saints were the FIRST Kingdom on earth.



Where you not referring the above to Daniels first beast ?
You say over and over this first kingdom is Daniels first beast kingdom.


Christian theology (both Catholic and Protestant) has always understood the reality of the first three “Kingdoms”.

Both Jewish and Christian Saints understood the first temporal “Kingdom of Heaven
(the first “generation” of Saints) was the Pre-Flood Kingdom, which included all of the Saints
living on the Pre-Flood earth – from Adam until Noah.



NOTICE I DID NOT SAY THE CHURCHES UNDERSTOOD THE PRE-FLOOD KINGDOM WAS DANIEL'S FIRST BEAST
I ONLY SAID THE JEWISH AND CHRISTIAN SAINTS UNDERSTOOD THE PRE-FLOOD KINGDOM
CAME BEFORE THE JEWISH KINGDOM.

THIS IS NOT HARD.
DON'T ADD TO MY WORDS.



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I said the church has always recognized the Pre-Flood Saints as PART of the Eternal Kingdom.
AND the church has always recognized the Pre-Flood Saints were the FIRST Kingdom on earth.
Where you not referring the above to Daniels first beast ?
you say this then turn around and say this.

Of course Daniel talks about the Saints in the FIRST "Kingdom" or "Beast"
on earth. "The Revelation Beast ALSO contains the FIRST "Kingdom" on earth.
Dan 7:4-7 The first was like a lion [1st Pre-Flood Kingdom]

Do you understand the first "Beast" on earth was the
(1st) Pre-Flood Kingdom

Time and again you say the first head of Daniels statue is preflood saints.

If you do not have harmony of Scripture - you have contradictions...
showing you have a false doctrine.

You do not have harmony of Scripture - you have contradictions...first one
Daniel told King Nebuchadnezzar he was the head of gold [like a lion],
not preflood saints, who was dead long before Daniel was taken captive .

I believe the bible and Daniel when he says King Nebuchadnezzar of the Chaldean Empire,
who had taken the Jews captive, had a dream, the meaning of which God revealed to Daniel.
 
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Time and again you say the first head of Daniels statue is preflood saints.


Because that is clear.


Tell me please
WHAT was the FIRST "Kingdom/Beast" on earth?


Answer:
The "Kingdom/Beast" existing from Adam to Noah


Do you know of a "Kingdom/Beast" existing BEFORE Adam?


You do not have harmony of Scripture - you have contradictions...first one
Daniel told King Nebuchadnezzar he was the head of gold [like a lion],
not preflood saints, who was dead long before Daniel was taken captive .


In Daniel and Revelation the (1st) Pre-Flood Kingdom is represented as a BEAST


As far as Daniel telling Nebuchadnezzer he was the lion.


The Bible PROMISES that Daniel did NOT understand the (spiritual) meaning of his prophecies
The Bible PROMISES the TRUTH about Daniel's prophecies would remain "closed-up" and "sealed"
to all the Saints until the Last Saints "shall understand" (and preach) the TRUTH at the "Time-of-the-End"
[Dan 12:4 and 12:8-10]


Therefore... for you to pretend to understand the TRUTH about Daniel's prophecies
BEFORE the Last Saints "shall understand"... is simply you REJECTING the Word of God,
since Daniel 12 could not be more clear.


It is really as simple as that.


If you insist on REJECTING Daniel 12 then I cannot help you because
the Bible is no longer the ultimate authority to you.


Now... I believe I have already shown you this.
WHY in the world do I need to show you again?


Jim
 
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