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[Ironhold]

One of our Mormon friends on the thread informed us of the great work that the church does in many areas. There is no doubt about that.

Going back to what I brought up -

ZCMI - Wikipedia

ZCMI.

Zion's Cooperative Mercantile Institution.

Non-Mormon merchants in Utah in the 1860s would frequently cheat members of the church, and so ZCMI was effectively ordered into existence as a common marketplace in which people could buy and sell goods in a regulated, formalized fashion. Thus, ZCMI became what is generally regarded as the first department store chain.

By the 1990s, however, ZCMI was functionally obsolete. Chains like Wal-Mart, K-Mart, ShopKo, and Smith's had come into existence and moved into the state. With them in place, there was functionally no more need for a company like ZCMI, and so in 1999 the church made the decision to sell the chain off to Macy's. The ZCMI name plate is retained on what was essentially the flagship store, but otherwise all ZCMI facilities that weren't regarded as being redundant have since been re-branded.

 

[Peter1000]

This is an example of making the Scripture say something it doesn't. It says they thought that they had seen a spirit, not Jesus' spirit. They did not recognise that the person walking on the water or who appeared in the room with them was actually Jesus but a ghost. The word for "spirit" in these two references is the Elizabethan word for "ghost".

OK, they thought they saw a spirit. But they must have thought that a spirit looked liked a man, for they saw someone walking on the water towards them, and they saw some man standing in the room next to them. So to them, a spirit has the form of a man. Is that OK?

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

OK, they thought they saw a spirit. But they must have thought that a spirit looked liked a man, for they saw someone walking on the water towards them, and they saw some man standing in the room next to them. So to them, a spirit has the form of a man. Is that OK?

I can live with that. People don't expect to see someone walking on the water toward them while in a storm at sea. This was the first time anything like that had ever been seen. You can imagine how the disciples in the boat would have been spooked! Also, none in the room would expect someone to come walking through the wall instead of entering by the door!

I saw a good movie about the life of Jesus, and they had another actor playing the resurrected Jesus. He was very similar to the main actor but enough to show why Mary and the two disciples at Emmaus didn't recognise Him, and when He revealed Himself to the two disciples after breaking bread with them it was as the main actor. I thought that was well done. It showed that the resurrected Jesus was quite different to what He was before, and Thomas was able to recognise who He was only by the nail scars on His wrists and the spear wound in His side.