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The gift of faith...

Discussion in 'Spirit-Filled / Charismatic' started by ByTheSpirit, Jan 23, 2015.

  1. ByTheSpirit

    ByTheSpirit Pray always!!

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    What exactly is the gift of faith as listed in 1 Corinthians 12? It can't be saving faith. Perhaps it can be the ability to believe in God without seeing or experiencing many power signs or wonders. Such as a person with the gift of faith by the Spirit may pray and earnestly seek the Lord for the healing anointing, prophetic, etc. & yet never receive it in a tangible way, yet they persevere in belief....

    What do you think? What is the gift of faith as listed in 1 Cor 12?
     
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  2. talitha

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    I have been doing some prayerful study on the manifestations of the Spirit. This is what I have written concerning the manifestation of faith:

    Faith is listed among the manifestations of the Spirit along with the word of knowledge and tongues and the rest. We don’t usually think of faith as a manifestation of the Spirit, but its appearance on this list suggests that there are bursts of faith that are more supernatural and immediate than the constant faith that we are all supposed to demonstrate.

    The Greek word for faith is pistis – persuasion, credence, consistency, conviction, reliance, faith, fidelity, belief (Strongs). The root word is a verb, peitho – to convince, to assent, to rely, agree, assure, believe, to be confident, to make a friend, to obey, persuade, trust, or yield. An interesting assortment of definitions. Hebrews 11:1 is often used as a definition of faith: “Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.”

    When I asked the Lord, “What does this manifestation of faith look like?” this is the answer I received in my spirit: It looks like a person believing for the impossible and acting on it. Jesus said, “If you have faith the size of a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there, and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you” (Matt. 17:20). According to Habakkuk 2:4, “the righteous will live by his faith”. What an interesting statement. This means that our lifestyle (if we are “the righteous”) depends upon believing for the impossible and acting on it. And yet, “if I have all faith so as to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing” (I Cr. 13:2). So faith must be tempered by love if it is to be worth anything.
    With faith, the question is not so much the source but the object. What are we putting faith in? True faith is in the faithfulness of God; false faith is really in anything else - our own abilities, other people, leaders, our dreams, and even our experience. In the end, true “faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ” (Romans 1:17). In other words, truth is the perspective of God, and when that is revealed, it produces faith in the hearer. The Bible does not even acknowledge any other faith than faith in God. I think that means that faith in anything else is no faith at all, because nothing else is completely dependable like He is. The Hebrew word for faith is emuwn, which literally means “established” or “supported”. It’s almost always used in the adjective form to describe God, his word, or his people.

    Faith as a manifestation of the spirit can feel like an inner energy directed toward the action that God is leading the believer to do. James wrote that “faith without works is useless” (2:20); it is “dead” (2:26). We cannot see faith; we see the works that faith prompts people to do.

    Some examples of faith manifested by action in the Bible:
    • Noah building an ark
    • Joseph giving orders that his bones be taken to the promised land (Gen. 50:24)
    • Moses striking the rock as God instructed him to do, bringing forth water for the Israelites in the wilderness of Sinai
    • Elijah pouring water on his sacrifice on Mount Carmel
    • Elisha striking the waters (I Kings 2:19)
    • Jesus noted the faith of several people, including:
    • the centurion whose servant needed healing (Mt. 8:10, Lk. 7:9)
    • the people who brought him a paralytic (Mt. 9:2)
    • the woman who touched his garment (Mt. 9:22, Mk. 5:34, Luke 8:48)
    • the woman who anointed his feet (Lk. 8:52)​
    • Peter walking on the water
    • Stephen and Barnabas were noted for being “full of faith” (Acts 6:5 and 11:24)
    In some of these examples we see people who had a direction from the Lord (Noah, Moses, Peter), and their obedience was an act of faith. This, I would say, is a demonstration that faith comes by hearing the word of the Lord. All of these acts of faith were followed by some kind of miracle, so it is clear that there is a strong link between faith and miracles. I think we need to remind ourselves of this - that what we are believing for is a miracle - something that we cannot produce out of our own abilities - our reliance is upon God and God alone.

    Recently I saw my husband Nathan manifest faith. He was approached by an insurance representative because of an auto accident he’d had a few years ago; the insurance company wanted $2,000. We did not have $2,000, and the accident in question was not in fact my husband’s fault. The other driver falsified evidence and convinced the court that he was not at fault, and then to “take care of it”, he failed to provide the insurance company with Nathan’s contact information. When this came back up after more than two years, I was angry, and I told my husband to contact our lawyer. He did, but he told me that God had told him He would take care of it. The lawyer told him he had a case, but Nathan said God would take care of it. I wrote a letter to our supporters (even though inside I did not want to ask them for money for something that was unjust), but then Nathan told me to retract the letter, that God was going to take care of it. We received enough money in just a few days to take care of it, even after I sent the retraction. Nathan believed what God had told him, no matter what. By faith, he waited, and God took care of it. He also believed that God would move us to the house where we now live, even though it seemed impossible financially for that to happen. By faith he started making preparations for us to move. By faith we sent out a letter requesting donations for the move, and again I didn’t believe, but Nathan did. We received almost three times the money that we asked for, and now my husband is believing that we will own this property. That is faith.Faith is one of the great virtues that will remain until the end – faith, hope, and love – but “the greatest of these is love”. All things must be tempered by love.
     
  3. Optimax

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    Everybody is given faith to live by from God.

    The "gift of faith" is a specific endowment of faith to a believer by the Holy Spirit for a specific purpose.
     
  4. faroukfarouk

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    It seems to be the gift of faith in Ephesians 2.8.
     
  5. Bob Carabbio

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    Simple!! -It's God TELLING YOU (either by anointing the WRITTEN Word, or by direct communication in terms you can understand) what He's doing/going to do in a manner whereby you HAVE the "Substance of what you hope for", and the "Evidence" of what isn't there - yet.

    I've used the illustration of the Cancer patient in my Bible study several times, but it's still the BEST that I've seen.

    Hospital says: He's a dead man walking. The treatments were not effective he's got a few weeks AT BEST!!!!

    He LOOKS like a dead man walking - cold to the touch, no color, no hair, weak as a kitten - OBVIOUSLY a guy Seriously on the way OUT.

    GOD says to his mother: "He's not gonna die, he's gonna be completely HEALED"

    His mother tells us that, we thank GOD for his provision with this dead-looking guy in the room - and NOTHING CHANGES.

    But then, he DOESN'T DIE in a few weeks, and "just gets better" - till the hospital pronounces him "Cancer FREE" just like God SAID would happen.

    THAT'S the "Charisma of FAITH" in action.
     
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  6. tturt

    tturt Senior Veteran Supporter

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    There's good infor already posted. Like that example. When that 'NOTHING CHANGES" waiting part or troubling thoughts on Yeshua's timing can challenge our faith.

    Also, there are different aspects of faith such as faith to be saved (Eph 2:8), faith to prophecy (Rom 12:6), faith to be healed (Acts 14:8-10), etc

    The Bible reveals there are various levels of faith. Yeshua said those who did not use their faith as being faithless (Matthew 17:17). He said some were doubtful = had little faith (Matthew 6:30; 8:26; 14:31; Luke 12:28) and some had great faith (Matthew 8:10; 15:28; Luke 7:9). Also, "And Stephen, full of faith and power, did great wonders and miracles among the people." Acts 6:8

    "For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also." James 2:26

    "Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power:" II Thess 1:11

    Heb 11 has several examples about the power of faith.

    The gift of faith is to edify the body of Yeshua.

    The measure of faith (Romans 12:3) can be increased (Luke 17:5, II Cor 10:15) by The Holy Spirit because "So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." Rom 10:17 Yeshua perfects our faith (Heb 12:2).
     
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  7. ByTheSpirit

    ByTheSpirit Pray always!!

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    I think that was more my question: it was worded poorly.

    Is the measure of faith given by God (Romans 12:3) the same as the gift of faith (1 Corinthians 12:9)?

    I do appreciate the words given thus far.

    Bob that is a great illustration! I ask mainly because of my own recent situation. I have struggled greatly with my finances and at times almost lost my home and such. I have wanted to quit caring more than once to be honest, but something rises within me when I hit that point and I say, God I don't know why you haven't helped yet but I believe you will and get a recharge.

    I was wondering if that was the gift of faith at work in me....
     
  8. Alithis

    Alithis Disciple of Jesus .

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    im liking your husband ..what a brother ..god bless him
    thank you for sharing this ..i hope more folks pause to read it properly .

    sometimes in prayer meetings iv experienced what could be termed "a gift of faith" ..when moved under the anointing of the Holy Spirit to pray in a manner of utter confidence, void of any doubt over and above prayers that plead,in contrast, the gift of faith moves a person to go to the throne and take what is required for the work of the lord .it also edifies others to cast of doubt and believe also ... that's just another aspect of it ..what you have shared is more excellent example :thumbsup: (the red highlights i added- they are inspired of the lord :) )
     
  9. yesyoushould

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  10. Steeno7

    Steeno7 Not I...but Christ

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    "Faith" there is speaking of our Christian faith and the ministry of which each of us has been given a “measure of". No one person is capable of expressing the total faith-expression of the Body of Christ, the Church. Which is why we need each other.

    Yes I believe it is the same idea being expressed there, only in a more specific manner.
     
  11. Optimax

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    They are not the same.

    Faith was given to every man in rom 12.

    That faith given can be used or not used as it is given to every man.

    The gift of faith is given as the Spirit wills.

    The gift of faith is not given to every man.
     
  12. ToBeBlessed

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    I agree with this. :thumbsup:
     
  13. Michael Collum

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    I think of faith or trust as the breathing element of the new life, we live by trusting God in whom we live, move, and have our being.
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    the gift of faith is a gift related to being able to apply faith to everything including theology.
     
  14. ByTheSpirit

    ByTheSpirit Pray always!!

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    It is good to see such a wide array of ideas on the subject. None of which seem out of possibility. I still feel as if my particular situation is in itself the gift of faith at work in me, which encourages me more. But who knows...
     
  15. yesyoushould

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    All are a blessing from God.
    A rock is unique, yet designed perfectly by God.
     
  16. talitha

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    :D i kinda like him too. Thank you for reading the long post..... I am praying about how to get that stuff out there because God did not give me this "one talent" to bury it in the proverbial ground.....

    Blessed be His Holy name!! :clap:
     
  17. Messy

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    The measure of faith can grow when you build it, but the gift of faith is just instant His faith, not your own, like when you pray for someone and you doubt, but just do it all of a sudden you know without a doubt. Harold Hill had a testimony on it. He prayed for a girl with cancer and she looked so bad, he was just saved, he didn't really believe it, but all of a sudden it came in him, it's His faith. He left and a month later he saw her, but he thought: that can't be her, she's dead, but it was her, she was healed. I have experienced it too, it's a gift of the Spirit, like miracles and the rest that's listed.
     
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