The full vials are not during the 42 months.

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I believe that 1 peter 5:4 is speaking about the temptation we see here in the forums all the time. That of the devil casting doubt of the reality of Jesus Christ, for "even the elect would be deceived if that were possible" Matthew 24:24 .

But I'm not yet convinced we are that near the end yet. I know people who are, one guy sold his house 6 years ago because he believed the rapture was imminent then, he can't believe we are still here. His house too, today he and his wife are in dept perhaps beyond recovery. So this stuff can be dangerous, we must be wise with wisdom from above and hold fast and tight with endurance.
 
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Peter is speaking as to the elders at the time.
1 Peter 5:1
The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed:
1Pe 5:2
Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;
Yes.
 
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The two witnesses are slain near the end of the great tribulation. They rise at the same hour as a great earthquake. This earthquake is the third woe, which means the 7th trumpet sounds first.
All trib martyrs rest till all come in slain that are to be killed as they were.
We shall all be changed. for the trumpet shall sound
There shall be a resurrection -both of the just
and the unjust. as in a resurrection for each type
one time, the dead of the just will rise -at the resurrection of life
the wickeds will rise at the resurrection much later -to damnation
The two witnesses are slain during the 2nd woe, but rise at the 7th trumpet earthquake hour. The Spirit of life from God is what they get. John 5 shows this is what all of the just wait for. to get life from God in themselves
Jesus Christ will bring the sleeping saints from heaven with Him. He will be seen in power and great glory in the time of the 6th seal. Heaven has been rolled back - the throne is no longer hidden from view. The men will hide in the rocks for fear of Him and His glory. He is coming back as exalted alone!

Hebrews 11 ends telling how we all get made perfect at the same time.
We shall not be made perfect without them/OT saints.

Yes,theres an earthquake that accompanies the abominatoin which causes desolation.It causes the earth to quake and the heavens to depart as a scroll being rolled together.

Revelation 6:15 KJV: And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;


In israel these dens they are hiding in are bomb shelters.Doomsday dens.There are more than a million in israel and te occupied territories to hide in.

Doomsday dens: Inside Israel's bomb shelters – in pictures

Have you fiqured out why the king of the north orders his armed forces to place the abomination that causes desolation?
 
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The great tribulation/such as never was will be shortened. Immediately after it
the sun will go dark. The world will be then in the time of the 6th seal. Jesus Christ
placed events of the stars fall and He returns as occurring when this time of the abomination ends.
The church will be changed/gathered together. It will be the day of the Lord/day of Christ.
The vials will start later. They are not part of the time such as never was.

Jesus Christ told that the abomination/great tribulation ends with the sun shall be darkened...stars...fall...the sign of the Son of man in heaven...coming...

The vials will not begin till after the 7th seal is opened. They will be against all the wicked people that slew the saints and followed Babylon with the little horn. The little horn is no longer here, but dead first. The beast out of the sea will yet need to fall with his one mouth. Out of it will come an evil frog type of being that will help to deceive the world - and they will gather for war.

Daniel 11 shows the whirlwind king/little horn that speaks great things falls at the end of the chapter. He only was allowed to continue for 42 months. It will be the end of the 1290 days referred to in Daniel 12. Daniel stops resting, and stands.

There will yet be a time of getting to 1335 days. People will need to remain alive if they hoped to get blessed at the end of those days.

wait - come to the day
/not go die - leave -
Anyone that dies after the time of Jesus Christ returns at the end of the great tribulation will be lost- and eventually be in hell, then the lake of fire for eternity.

as Paul told - the church...we are not like those - that have no hope
This is all nonsense: ANYONE who rearranges Revelation will be proven wrong.
 
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Heaven departs in the day of the Lord, not the time of Satan's wrath as to the abomination of desolation.

great trib ends...sun...dark...stars fall...heaven is rolled up/day of the LORD, men hide in the rocks/day of the LORD
But during the 6th seal -the moon becomes blood before the day of the Lord, yet the great trib is already over.

great trib...time of such as never was...the end of the times of the Gentiles over the holy city...Jacob's trouble /Jeremiah 30:7

Who causes the trouble such as never was?
This man?
Daniel 11:44 KJV: But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.

Or do you believe Jesus will causes trouble such as never was?
 
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He stands up as the vile person in Daniel 11:21, but the time of the great tribulation-such as never was will not start till after the abomination-then people are to flee Judea -for that such as never was time is starting.
The wicked king -of the north - is the little horn. The mouth that is added to the beast in Rev. 13-that speaks great things against God.

Theres nothing little about the king of the north.He is themost powerfulman in the worldof the most powerful country in the world.His ego is just as big.Theres nothing little here.

Daniel 11:36 Then the king will do as he pleases and will exalt and magnify himself above every god, and he will speak monstrous things against the God of gods. He will be successful until the time of wrath is completed, for what has been decreed must be accomplished.

No the king of the north is not the little horn.He will give the little horn(Israel) a host(military)which shall abolish the daily sacrifice.

Daniel 8:12 KJV: And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.

That host shall occupy jerusalem 42 months till it is destroyed.

Its coming.
Trump prepared to pressure Netanyahu with peace plan | The Jerusalem post
 
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