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Featured The forbidden fruit was a psychedelic?

Discussion in 'Controversial Christian Theology' started by OffGrid, Nov 7, 2019.

  1. OffGrid

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    Why do so many never make the connection between the forbidden fruit and psychedelics?
    I mean here are some reasonings, and relatabilities:
    -Parents tell their children don't do drugs usually without giving them a seemingly valid reason not to
    -when Adam ate the fruit his eyes were opened. (Whether literally metaphorically or dilated (not that there is much of a difference) it's still pretty evident)
    -the fruit created a paranoia effect
    -before hand they knew not the difference between good and evil, yet all of a sudden it seems to have flashed before their eyes
    -it angered the Father that they disobeyed and they were cast out of the garden
    -the serpent tempted eve much like a drug dealer might tempt someone to take acid or mushrooms claiming it's the best thing ever
    -it seemed to cause them to feel naked when before they never seemed noticed, just as drugs might cause someone to toil in what seems like vanity to an outside source
    -Adam and eve seemed lost
    -psycadelics seem to be forbidden... atleast to most people

    So is there any reason to believe the forbidden fruit was not a psycadelics drug, and preachers just don't put emphasis on it as such as to keep it in ancient context that they don't anger the world? (Though being a friend to the world they are depriving others of the truth, and thus leaving children vulnerable to experiment with many forbidden fruits because this story/parable is not taught correctly makes the story teller an enemy to God?)
     
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  2. Sabertooth

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    If anything, said fruit took away our ability to fully appreciate color, and left us with "black & white" thinking... [​IMG]
     
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  3. OffGrid

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    Maybe it was the grape, pomagrante, orange, or Apple? What do I know? I'm just trying to really take the facts into consideration. His will be done above even my own.
    Maybe it was sex, idk....
     
  4. Sabertooth

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    No, the KOGE tree* and Tree of Life were each one-of-a-kind.

    *I call its fruit KOGE-fruit. [​IMG]
    ("Toxic" would be an understatement.)
     
  5. OffGrid

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    Well I'd like to say it is a great possibility the Israelites coming out of Egypt for 40 years were eating mushrooms as manna, thus God continued 'testing them'. I mean geographically it makes sense..

    But nobody is ever blunt about these kinds of things.
    Sadly for those Israelites their disobedience cost them their lives.
     
  6. OffGrid

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    If koge in Japanese means burnt or scorched are you implying you think the tree of the knowledge of good and evil is a weed plant and the angel with the flaming sword guarding the garden would burn or something? Just a question of an analysis..
     
  7. Sabertooth

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    No. The acronym KOGE and Japanese "koge" are just homographs.
     
  8. OffGrid

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    Or possibly the forbidden fruit is a tobacco plant that killed off the dinosaurs (hints the overlooked verse of a mystery in the song of Moses.)
    And the tree of life was the plant healing Colorado?

    Once again just a guesstimation for a thousands of year old mystery
     
  9. Sabertooth

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    Tobacco isn't a one-of-a-kind plant.
    [​IMG]
    from The Far Side by Gary Larson
     
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  10. Aussie Pete

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    That's just speculation and I don't see any basis for it. What the serpent (Satan) offered was far more than a drug. It was a promise that Adam and Eve would become like God, and a lie that they would not die if they ate. They were not cast out of the garden because God was angry. It was to protect them. If they had gone to the tree of life, they would have been immortal and could never have been saved.
     
  11. Oscarr

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    The fruit is not the issue here. We are not told what that fruit actually was. The real issue is that God told them not to eat it, and they did, thereby disobeying a direct command from God, causing them to fall from their innocence and losing the Holy Spirit, and therefore their direct fellowship with God.
     
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  12. OffGrid

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    I still don't see how it's not a drug.. I gave you more points than you gave me. And your points aren't even thinking outside the box. For example

    -there is literally no way to say the brontosaurus's neck. Wasn't like a giant bong, and any smoker knows tobacco in a bong is lethal. (Granted my entire perception of dinosaurs/dragons is different than most, because I believe the TRex to be a sea monster)


    Also I am so let down for not atleast having an open mind enough to consider these things when they are slapping you in the face.

    Like your just dancing around the truth cause I already knew all that you have shared with me.
    Except for the fact that you can't say it wasn't a psycadelic drug.
    Is there not a promise of a euphoric trip where any things possible even heightened abilities when people get acid from their dealers?

    I am not saying the psycadelic is the issue, clearly it was the fact that they disobeyed God.

    However I stand here with a hypothesis, yet nobody has taken a chance to consider this perspective. Instead I got an elementary answer that holds back truth, and hardly edifies at all..
     
  13. OffGrid

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    Sometimes what's speculated is the truth, though the majority do not wish to hear it..
     
  14. JackRT

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    [​IMG]
     
  15. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    Because it is not written, and not revealed. Thus, not believed.
     
  16. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    No worries.
    Others do.
     
  17. OffGrid

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    How would you have proposed they said it 3500+ years ago? Certainly another word for sorcery is pharmekia and theorist have assumed pharmekia is a derivative of pharmacy. Thus medicine is a form of sorcery so if you want to get technical for there to be a healing of nations from a plant would it not be an herb/medicine?

    I think it's just flat out ignorant to not consider there was more to the stories of the Old Testament.
     
  18. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    ?? Why say derivative? Pharmacy since the father of pharmacy (who claimed he learned everything from a sorceress) has been pharmakeia....
     
  19. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    Clarify: medicine that is pharmakeia is a form of sorcery and deceiving.
    Healing is entirely separate and different, and is not legal in the USA nor in any country legally under the codex law.
     
  20. yeshuaslavejeff

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    As God Says, what God Reveals is Truth, and what man thinks up in the flesh profits nothing.
     
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