The Flood

[MorkandMindy]

Sorry I should have made the link: Jesus is therefore in control of the strong force holding the lid on.

 

[Naraoia]

OK, lets simplify this, suppose in the Universe there are just the three of us, you MrGoodBytes, me Mork, and Jesus.

I don't control the strong force. I note you didn't counter what AV1611VET said by claiming you did, so that leaves Jesus controlling the strong force. QED

Mork, are you real? This is as dumb as a bad parody can ever get.

 

[MorkandMindy]

Posting under the influence, are we?

Well, yes, my son is none other than hypersonic, but he only has 6 posts so couldn't post here on his own. You can find him in philosofy where he can post without any restrictions...

He decided to ask how resurrection is done. When he's finished he may send it to How Stuff Works. When it comes to literalism he leaves AV1611VET in the dust. Should have called him AV1711VET I thingk.

 

[MorkandMindy]

Mork, are you real? This is as dumb as a bad parody can ever get.

Heck, I stopped believing myself months ago.

 

[thaumaturgy]

Of course not.

Good answer! So we conclude you are simply wishing Noah was from N. America. Nothing in the Bible would necessitate that this conclusion is more likely than his being from the Middle East, where we might be talking about a local event or local myth.

No, it helps your argument if you think that Noah was from N. America.

So please, tell me why you think pitch has to be from the Pitch Pine rather than the more common usage of "petroleum bitumen"?

You always insist others answer your questions.

Let me hold you up to a "higher standard"

[BIBLE]Luke 6:31[/BIBLE]

 

[dukeofhazzard]

Which word in my answer was Hebrew, Naraoia? I don't even know how to speak Hebrew, and I don't speak in tongues.

If there's a Hebrew word you don't understand, what does that have to do with me?

She meant that it was a Hebrew word that the KJV TRANSLATORS did not understand.

"Gopher wood"


"Gopher wood" is a misreading and scribal error. "Kopher" wood is correct and means wood (any wood) that is covered with Kopher. Kopher is bitumen. In the Genesis text (6:14), the context is clear. The GPR wood used, (a scribal error) is to be covered in KPR. G and K in Hebrew are so similar that inexperienced Hebrew "scholars," such as those translating the King James Version of the Bible, could have been prone to such errors, indeed, they made many such errors.
Acts 7: 45 & Hebrews 4: 8 are classic examples of such scribal errors.
gpr = "g," as in gopher, k pr = "k,"as in kopher
Here is a simple visual comparison of the letters, cross-reference your Hebrew language guide:

 

[Split Rock]

She meant that it was a Hebrew word that the KJV TRANSLATORS did not understand.

But Duke (note I didn't use your acronym this time LOL!), the Creationists here have maintained repeatedly that God has ensured that the KJV Bible (and only the KJV Bible) remains 100% accurate through direct Divine Intervention! Didn't you get the memo??

 

[dukeofhazzard]

But Duke (note I didn't use your acronym this time LOL!),

Thanks!!

...the Creationists here have maintained repeatedly that God has ensured that the KJV Bible (and only the KJV Bible) remains 100% accurate through direct Divine Intervention! Didn't you get the memo??

Oh my! I've got quite a pile here, it must be here somewhere! Mabye under the earth shaking "Piltdown man is a hoax" memo! (because that one threw such a wrench in evolution that I just can't believe it anymore!!)

 

[Naraoia]

Heck, I stopped believing myself months ago.

 

[Naraoia]

She meant that it was a Hebrew word that the KJV TRANSLATORS did not understand.

Oh, thanks, A misreading, ha! Even worse than I thought.

 

[dukeofhazzard]

Oh, thanks, A misreading, ha! Even worse than I thought.

I know, right? They were just like, "what's that Hebrew word?" "I dunno" "What sounds like it in English?" "Hmmm, gopher?" "Sounds good, movin' on".

 

[Naraoia]

I know, right? They were just like, "what's that Hebrew word?" "I dunno" "What sounds like it in English?" "Hmmm, gopher?" "Sounds good, movin' on".

*giggle* Must have been a great trauma when they didn't understand Teh Word of Gawd

 

[dukeofhazzard]

*giggle* Must have been a great trauma when they didn't understand Teh Word of Gawd

LOL

 

[thaumaturgy]

She meant that it was a Hebrew word that the KJV TRANSLATORS did not understand.

Interesting! Thanks for the heads up. I had assumed that the pitch was simply the standard petroleum pitch. Which, as pointed out earlier, can also be found abundantly in the Middle East (obviously).

Still, you have to wonder if the original scribes got it Wrong and GOD stepped in to help the KJV translators correct the errors in the original manuscripts!



(Man, I'm so good at this I could take over AV's posts...)

 

[dukeofhazzard]

Interesting! Thanks for the heads up. I had assumed that the pitch was simply the standard petroleum pitch. Which, as pointed out earlier, can also be found abundantly in the Middle East (obviously).

Still, you have to wonder if the original scribes got it Wrong and GOD stepped in to help the KJV translators correct the errors in the original manuscripts!



(Man, I'm so good at this I could take over AV's posts...)

Uh oh...

Hail Thaumaturgy

 

[TheBear]

As soon as geologists discover a "FLOOD!" layer, I'll sit up and listen.

All the rest in this 200+ post thread, is nothing more than postulation, maneuvering, and rhetoric.

 

[thaumaturgy]

As soon as geologists discover a "FLOOD!" layer, I'll sit up and listen.

All the rest in this 200+ post thread, is nothing more than postulation, maneuvering, and rhetoric.

I too would welcome such a "claim", because then it would draw the discussion back down to "reality's nuts and bolts".

Usually the YEC or Floodians here treat geology as a big hand-waivey exercise of "Well water can deposit sediments so I can imagine anything I want and it must be so!"

Perhaps it is an axiom of Flood Geology that when a "fact" is sufficiently presented as to allow for analysis it will invariably fail.

As long as the "facts" are kept nebulous and ill-defined you can't really argue against it.

A clear understanding of the facts seems to be the worst enemy of Flood Geology. Certainly it is the clear enemy of YEC in general.

I wonder who survives on confusion? Isn't there some character in the Bible that would thrive in places where truth and facts are clouded or kept dark?

 

[AV1611VET]

Interesting! Thanks for the heads up. I had assumed that the pitch was simply the standard petroleum pitch. Which, as pointed out earlier, can also be found abundantly in the Middle East (obviously).

Still, you have to wonder if the original scribes got it Wrong and GOD stepped in to help the KJV translators correct the errors in the original manuscripts!



(Man, I'm so good at this I could take over AV's posts...)

The question was asked why I believe Noah came from North America.

My answer used the word "pitch" to show why I think that.

Now the conversation got switched to "gopher wood" --- which is a whole different subject.

 

[AV1611VET]

Perhaps it is an axiom of Flood Geology that when a "fact" is sufficiently presented as to allow for analysis it will invariably fail.

As long as "facts" don't contradict "the Truth", we're okay with it.

 

[thaumaturgy]

As long as "facts" don't contradict "the Truth", we're okay with it.

You really need to collect these aphorisms in a central location. Or write a book!

It could compete with "The Dictionary".