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Is this even debatable? It seems so self-evident that it's happening now in society and even within the Church.
 
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Yes, for those who see, it is self evident. But even 4 years ago it was not so obvious, and many who did see were persecuted for their forward vision.

If that were so back then, what is it that we are missing today that is otherwise in plain sight?
 
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Yes, for those who see, it is self evident. But even 4 years ago it was not so obvious, and many who did see were persecuted for their forward vision.

If that were so back then, what is it that we are missing today that is otherwise in plain sight?
For me, I wonder if the apocalypse is upon us. I've spent years listening to folks who thought so and more or less laughed at them when their dates failed. But since the Pachamama thing I wonder if we aren't there.

OK. I'm not giving away my house or anything. But I wonder.

Am I crazy? I know there have been multiple bad times in history where people thought the end was upon us. But it wasn't. Who knows? I just wonder.
 
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