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The Fasting Failure

Discussion in 'Spiritual Formation & Disciplines' started by Jesus' Girl, Jun 9, 2017.

  1. Jesus' Girl

    Jesus' Girl ❤️❤️❤️

    New Zealand
    I know it is a requirement we fast as Christians and if we don't it is sin. I have been keen to try it for this reason.
    One night (few days ago) I *tried* to get close to God and prayed for Him to help me fast and desire to know Him and how long I must fast. I got a "three day" pop in my head, then a "two day". I never ever hear from God and suffer from mental illness quite badly so never know God's voice

    . I have prayed to hear Him and soften my heart to Him but my heart is continuously cold to Him. I don't desire to know Him or want to love Him and I don't know why. I do pray but never get His voice in me at all. I don't even know if I am saved.

    Well, I tried to that evening and my stomach was so sore. You see, I suffer from an undiagnosed stomach condition (waiting to see a specialist) and have stomach pain all day. The pain is often unbearable. I tried fighting it and reading the bible it didn't work. I ate under huge guilt from God but the pain didn't go away. I also get painful palpitations every day so it scares me I'm going to die.

    Today I came across a fasting video and didn't watch it as I'm unwell every day (think I'm being attacked by witchcraft). And they say all the usual, drink water (I did do this), read the bible (tried this), ask God first (did this), try other fasts etc. But God NEVER speaks to me! After the video I now feel huge (Godly?? Don't know) guilt to not eat tonight. I did eat a yoghurt today before watching the video. I want to fast so I can not go to hell but I'm a failure. I feel if I eat tonight I'm going to be in hell fire. But how do I even fast when I'm continually I'll with mental illness, weakness, palpitations, tiredness, fatigue and this is without fasting! How do you even read the bible when your stomach is killing you and you are crying from hunger? And your eyes are so sore? And your heart seems to be playing up? People told me its suffering for Christ to be like Him but I can't function like this!
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  2. mukk_in

    mukk_in Yankees Fan Supporter

    Fasting may not be good for everybody. My physician told me not to skip a meal. Since he's a healer and an instrument in God's Hands, I took that as the Lord's word. I haven't been fasting since, but His Holy Spirit is still in me :).
  3. 4x4toy

    4x4toy Newbie Supporter

    Love your name, I don't think fasting is a command so you shouldn't fret about it. If you've prayed about it sometimes you have to just wait .. I'd find a preacher or a Christian and ask them to anoint me with oil and with prayer . You still may have to wait and there's nothing wrong with getting back in the prayer line again next time, so don't take no for an answer . I don't know your situation but your post tells me you believe in Jesus and agree with what he did, said and lived . Some, maybe many have trouble giving up certain things that will cause internal strife between your heart and mind , don't look or compare to what some one else may have .. Matthew 6:24 .
    I pray for you that you receive your hearts desire from the Lord and learn to receive the peace God promises . Don't give up and learn to wait on the Lord . Jesus loves you just the same as if you were already perfect . Your perceived weakness has no bearing on how much Jesus loves you as you are .. You are unique and special to the Lord that no one else could be or your struggle would not be so tough, rejoice .. :clap: Your victory is at hand . God bless you ..
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  4. Cturtle

    Cturtle Jesus, My Savior and Lord is my hiding place

    United States
    Word of Faith
    There is nothing in the Bible that says that if you don't fast, your sinning. Fasting does not always have to be food, one can fast a favorite activity or favorite junk food or coffee or soft drink.. etc... the purpose of fasting is to deny the flesh of something that brings it pleasure, and spend that time with the Father. Teaching your flesh to be more aware of the spirit.

    Something to think about in regards to knowing how to hear God's voice, is that His voice is going to be quiet and inside of you. It sounds exactly like your voice, because the Holy Spirit speaks to your spirit and then your spirit speaks to your mind.

    It will help you to meditate on John 10, and remind your mind that you are His sheep and you do know His voice. Make your words agree with Jesus's. For our minds were not made brand new when we got born again, so we have to help them to remember what the Bible (God's Words to us) says. It's called renewing your mind (Romans 12:2).

    Once your mind realizes that you have a spirit that speaks, it will learn to listen for the Holy Spirit voice and leading or prompting.

    As we read the Word, we learn how God communicates, and then the more we know how God communicates, we will learn how He speaks to us directly. It takes patience, and practice. And trust me, God will start yiunoff with small things, like take an umbrella today with you when you leave the house, or your headlights in your car are on. Little things so you can grow accustomed to His voice, to train you.

    If you don't hear right away, be patient and remind yourself often that you are His sheep and know His voice. It will come, but you have to trust in His faithfulness and love for you. Trust the fact that He does desire to commune or develpoe a relationship with you.

    Praying for you! God bless you abundantly with grace and peace!
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  5. vinsight4u

    vinsight4u Contributor

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  6. prodromos

    prodromos Senior Veteran Supporter

    Eastern Orthodox
    Any fasting is always mitigated by health issues. In the Orthodox Church, the practice of fasting is to abstain from certain types of food. For example, every Wednesday and Friday, in remembrance of Christ's betrayal and crucifixion, we fast from all meat and dairy products as well as oil and alcohol. In the lead up to major feast days such as Pascha and the Nativity (Easter and Christmas) we have extended fasting periods of 40 days or more. We also fast in preparation for receiving Holy Communion. Fasting is accompanied by prayer and alms giving, otherwise it is just another diet.
    By practising saying no to foods we enjoy, it helps train us to say no when faced with stronger temptations, much like an athlete training for a contest.
  7. Follower3

    Follower3 Newbie

    I will pray for you, please figure out what is wrong with your stomach. Does it help to kind of stretch back, and stretch out your torso, or does that make it worse? Do you have problems with constipation?
    Do you drink plenty of water on a fast? or when eating? ( but not too much)
  8. raffadalbo

    raffadalbo New Member

    Why do you think it is so important to fast? Eating is not a sin. Fasting is required in some particular times by some Christian denominations, but only in special times and taking into account the physical conditions. Still, I think it is never the top requirement; we are required to Love God and Love Other People - two requirements that are much more difficult than fasting.

    But in some cases (maybe in yours as well) the very point is: how much we trust God? Consider that God loves you. Would He really send you to Hell so easily? He will help you, if you wish to be helped. Maybe He is already helping you, because He is teaching you. Maybe (but I cannot know - only you can know about such things) He is showing that He expects from you different things: more love? more faith? Be like a child in Father's hands: trust Him, ask Him for what you need, listen to Him. (By the way, I guess that even you stomach will be better - but this is not the main point.)
  9. Follower3

    Follower3 Newbie

    Mathew 17:21 "But this kind does not go out except by prayer and fasting."