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yeah, that only works if there actually is a multiverse.
FTR, the idea of a “multiverse” is a product of subjectivism (see Lewis’s excellent essay on the topic). It’s effect, and for its coiners, aim, is to deny absolute truth. It is a philosophically horrible idea. But Marvel has been giving it a lot of coinage lately...
 
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FTR, the idea of a “multiverse” is a product of subjectivism (see Lewis’s excellent essay on the topic). It’s effect, and for its coiners, aim, is to deny absolute truth. It is a philosophically horrible idea. But Marvel has been giving it a lot of coinage lately...
So I am not a Samurai in another life? :(
 
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FTR, the idea of a “multiverse” is a product of subjectivism (see Lewis’s excellent essay on the topic). It’s effect, and for its coiners, aim, is to deny absolute truth. It is a philosophically horrible idea. But Marvel has been giving it a lot of coinage lately...

not only is it horrible, but it's logically impossible. quantifiable things, to include universes, can't be infinite.

but even if you want to say there is a multiverse, Orthodox philosopher Richard Swindborne says that multiverse would still be governed by laws to determine which ones have life and which don't, so even then you have to affirm an objective Lawgiver at the root of it all.
 
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not only is it horrible, but it's logically impossible. quantifiable things, to include universes, can't be infinite.

but even if you want to say there is a multiverse, Orthodox philosopher Richard Swindborne says that multiverse would still be governed by laws to determine which ones have life and which don't, so even then you have to affirm an objective Lawgiver at the root of it all.

Orthodox philosopher Rus Meister says that the idea of a multiverse is not only inconsistent with Orthodoxy, the idea is actually aimed at, and has the effect of, denying the Church’s claims, and that a philosopher who admits it is in error.
 
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Orthodox philosopher Rus Meister says that the idea of a multiverse is not only inconsistent with Orthodoxy, the idea is actually aimed at, and has the effect of, denying the Church’s claims, and that a philosopher who admits it is in error.

Richard Swindborne doesn't believe in a multiverse. what he says, is even IF you believe in one, you still have to posite a law giver for that multiverse. in other words, a multiverse isn't a logical alternative to God for atheists.
 
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Orthodox philosopher Rus Meister says that the idea of a multiverse is not only inconsistent with Orthodoxy, the idea is actually aimed at, and has the effect of, denying the Church’s claims, and that a philosopher who admits it is in error.

Lots of people have been saying similar things. The biggest one in general is the Multiverse is kind of an attempt to explain away the creation from a God of infinite attributes by instead making a defacto Pantheistic substitute where you give the cosmos infinite possibilities which makes anything no matter how remote and implausible possible, like generating single cell organisms spontaneously from the environment etc.
 
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Lots of people have been saying similar things. The biggest one in general is the Multiverse is kind of an attempt to explain away the creation from a God of infinite attributes by instead making a defacto Pantheistic substitute where you give the cosmos infinite possibilities which makes anything no matter how remote and implausible possible, like generating single cell organisms spontaneously from the environment etc.

and Professor Swindborne argues this view is illogical even if you accept the multiverse
 
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