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Featured The Evils of Cessationalism

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by rockytopva, Jun 2, 2019.

  1. topher694

    topher694 Go Turtle!

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    oh, please... shark jumped
     
  2. W2L

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    In other words we are here to bash Cessationalists and not allow them to defend themselves. Ok, i'll be moving on now
     
  3. rockytopva

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    Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations. - Romans 14:1
     
  4. topher694

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    Comparing a religious group/idea/theology/whatever to an individual person? Riiiiight. There are plenty of cessationalists here to defend themselves all they want... happens all the time. They "defend" themselves all the time without using Benny or any other public figures travel habits to do so.

    It has long past the point where I should follow my own signature.
     
  5. W2L

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    I could have just as easily ask where the faith healers are instead of Benny. Would you still disagree? Are you going to argue even then? Are we only bashing Cessationalists and shouting them down? Fine you win.
     
  6. W2L

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    Receive them and call them evil. Is that what romans 14 is saying? You seem to be virtue signalling.
     
  7. Blade

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    He said.. they believed it was all fake. How many think this about the sweet sweet Holy Spirit? Dead.. nor of God.. fake..of the devil....died out.

    How do they see man now? Something was born again born from above. He said we put on the NEW MAN which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness. He said all things become new. Now the holy spirit comes in to play. We TRY to say its not man but God ..the Holy Spirit. True. Yet.. if I GIVE YOU something how many times are you going to keep coming back to me saying its mine?

    Lets not be silly.. its ALWAYS Him aka POWER. But ..He is not going to go around giving crowns rewards to Him self. WE lay them down at HIS feet.. at some point.. its yours. You may not deserve it. But you did do something that got a crown... and then other rewards.

    That gift from the Holly Spirit is Him. Its always HIM. But HE GIVES those gifts to whom every He wills. Gives. Some take it.. have it. But dont believe wont use it. Some seem to believe one must be PERFECT to use it. They forget THEY are just as HUMAN as everyone else. So they see the FAULTS in man 1st.. they then judge that man based on the faults. They are not anyones God. They fall sin ...just like that preacher on TV.

    And DUH they KNOW if it was THEM they would be more HOLY more TRUE more loving blah blah blah. Truth is.. GOD never put you there for a reason. Ask Him sometime about it. You might not like the answer. How can you KNOW that He picks not silver not gold but just anyone that will say "HERE I AM USE ME". How can you know that He picked the Jewish people not because they were the greatest but the lest of all.

    How can you KNOW that He came died for you...and you STILL look at some preacher on TV and them JUDGE THEM only on what you SEE with flesh. Careful..there is no "just righteous" talk here. The people are not here to answer back. Maybe ask the Holy Spirit does He know (haha I said HE) ask if He knows what He's doing giving those gifts to those PREACHERS .. DUH we KNOW they dont deserve it right?

    :)
     
  8. Hammster

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    You still haven’t answered the question. Where does Ezekiel say cessationism is evil?
     
  9. Dave L

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    The Charismatic gifts came only through the two outpourings or through an apostle's hands. Scripture mentions no other way. So this is one of many reasons why today's tongues and claims to the gifts are fraudulent.
     
  10. rockytopva

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    Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth. And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin. - Romans 14:22-23

    The sin here is the disbelief that God is operating in this world.
     
  11. rockytopva

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    Behold! The promise is to them that believe! And no to some select few!

    16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
    17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
    18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
    19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.
    20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen. - Mark 16
     
  12. W2L

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    Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
     
  13. rockytopva

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    How to bring back a move of God....

    If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land. Now mine eyes shall be open, and mine ears attent unto the prayer that is made in this place. - 2 Chronicles 7:14-15

    You don't sit there behind closed doors talking about how God has ceased to operate in the day and time.
     
  14. Dave L

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    But tongues shall cease...........
     
  15. Dave L

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    Have you questioned the history saying tongues are of voodoo origin incorporated into Wesley Methodism at Azusa Street? Scares me................
     
  16. W2L

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    Thats not the sin. The sin is going against your conscience. Also seeing how you are quoting Romans 14, how does your thread title obey this part?

    19 Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification.
     
  17. rockytopva

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    And knowledge will equally vanish away.... Which also had not happened yet!
     
  18. Dave L

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    They knew in part until scripture thoroughly furnished them.

    All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.” (2 Timothy 3:16–17)
     
  19. Hammster

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    What does that have to do with cessationism?
     
  20. Hammster

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    That passage was strictly for Israel. Context, context, context.
     
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