The End-Times at the movies: Avengers

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You can tell me that I'm wrong until you are blue in the face, but the fact it, you are wrong.

Genetic engineering and time travel have been staples in Science Fiction since 'forever'. Some of it really clever, some of it just bad.

Society has always been fascinated at the concept of Time Travel...and it isn't bloody deception or a sin to explore the idea in a fictional universe.

The 'S' symbol in Superman was explain as 'hope' in Man of Steel..so we have to take it as such..hope. You honestly can't say that the S symbol on him means 666 - as there's only 1 S for 1 6, not 3.

I have zero idea why you get worked up over this. Science Fiction is just that...fiction...not real...not meant to be taken as such.

Matthew 7:1-3: Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

If you're going to judge others for seeing movies as pure entertainment, then you should also prepare to be judged yourself for "mistakes" you also do

Science fiction has not existed "forever". It started with Verne and Wells. Wells is a well documented Fabian Socialist that promoted an atheist one world government. Who also "just happened" to write science fiction.

Your naivete would be amusing if it weren't so dangerous to yourself and others.
 
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Science fiction has not existed "forever". It started with Verne and Wells. Wells is a well documented Fabian Socialist that promoted an atheist one world government. Who also "just happened" to write science fiction.

Your naivete would be amusing if it weren't so dangerous to yourself and others.

I think you're the dangerous one here. You think everything is about deception and evil.

Maybe you don't know that in 90% of movies made..at the very end..it has "All characters appearing in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental."

Again..FICTION.

I'm done talking to a person who thinks they're right in the most extreme ways and won't listen to reason or reality
 
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You can tell me that I'm wrong until you are blue in the face, but the fact it, you are wrong.

Genetic engineering and time travel have been staples in Science Fiction since 'forever'. Some of it really clever, some of it just bad.

Society has always been fascinated at the concept of Time Travel...and it isn't bloody deception or a sin to explore the idea in a fictional universe.

The 'S' symbol in Superman was explain as 'hope' in Man of Steel..so we have to take it as such..hope. You honestly can't say that the S symbol on him means 666 - as there's only 1 S for 1 6, not 3.

I have zero idea why you get worked up over this. Science Fiction is just that...fiction...not real...not meant to be taken as such.

Matthew 7:1-3: Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

If you're going to judge others for seeing movies as pure entertainment, then you should also prepare to be judged yourself for "mistakes" you also do

Society has not "always been fascinated with the concept of time travel". You are incorrect again - it started with HG Wells. Roughly 100 years. It is the false fulfillment of "the antichrist thinks to change times and laws".

I didn't say there were 3 "6s" on Superman's chest. I said the symbol was a stigma which is 1 '6' and also means 'mark'.

and then he goes .... there...
Matthew 7:1-3: Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

Why do you assume that I am judging you? I couldn't be bothered to judge you, I have zero interest in doing so.

Maybe you are worshiping these fictional "heroes'... you and Matthew 24 are merely proving my point all too well...

The Bible says to not worship false gods and idols. I am merely saying the same thing, and then you both say it's no big deal and don't want to repent of your idols.
 
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I think you're the dangerous one here. You think everything is about deception and evil.

Maybe you don't know that in 90% of movies made..at the very end..it has "All characters appearing in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental."

Again..FICTION.

I'm done talking to a person who thinks they're right in the most extreme ways and won't listen to reason or reality
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So, the movies say they are "coincidences"... have you ever heard of lying?

Buh bye
 
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You're looking for things that aren't there.

For example, consider Superman. Superman was equal parts "Jewish mythology" and "Nietzche". That's right: creators Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster were Jewish teenagers who were big into philosophy. Superman, as we know him, was created to be an arbitrator figure who would step in to help protect the innocent from the wicked. A hypothesis holds that Superman's creation may have been influenced by the murder of Siegel's father the year before; his father, a business owner, was killed during a robbery, and it is believed that Siegel may have been wanting someone who could stop things like that from happening.

Wonder Woman was a questionably successful attempt at creating a character who girls could look up to. I say "questionably" as the man who created her frequently used the series as an avenue for venting his various sexual peccadilloes, something that helped fuel the "Comic books are evil!" craze of the late 1950s. Your better writers have focused on making her the strong role model she was originally intended to be, but far too many have insisted on making her a talking head who merely regurgitates the feminist rantings of the day. (A recent issue even had her use the term "mansplaining".)

Batman was an attempt at creating a super who had no actual super powers. As explained in his origin story, he came to believe that most villains were cowards; as such, he adopted the most frightening outfit that he could make work in an effort to terrify them into submission. Those who he couldn't scare he subdued with his martial arts training and his array of gadgets.
 
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You're looking for things that aren't there.

For example, consider Superman. Superman was equal parts "Jewish mythology" and "Nietzche". That's right: creators Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster were Jewish teenagers who were big into philosophy. Superman, as we know him, was created to be an arbitrator figure who would step in to help protect the innocent from the wicked. A hypothesis holds that Superman's creation may have been influenced by the murder of Siegel's father the year before; his father, a business owner, was killed during a robbery, and it is believed that Siegel may have been wanting someone who could stop things like that from happening.

Wonder Woman was a questionably successful attempt at creating a character who girls could look up to. I say "questionably" as the man who created her frequently used the series as an avenue for venting his various sexual peccadilloes, something that helped fuel the "Comic books are evil!" craze of the late 1950s. Your better writers have focused on making her the strong role model she was originally intended to be, but far too many have insisted on making her a talking head who merely regurgitates the feminist rantings of the day. (A recent issue even had her use the term "mansplaining".)

Batman was an attempt at creating a super who had no actual super powers. As explained in his origin story, he came to believe that most villains were cowards; as such, he adopted the most frightening outfit that he could make work in an effort to terrify them into submission. Those who he couldn't scare he subdued with his martial arts training and his array of gadgets.

Wonder Woman was created by a Harvard psychologist and inventor of the lie detector, William Moulton Marston, as feminist propaganda.

The man behind the most popular female comic book hero of all time, Wonder Woman, had a secret past: Creator William Moulton Marston had a wife — and a mistress. He fathered children with both of them, and they all secretly lived together in Rye, N.Y. And the best part? Marston was also the creator of the lie detector.

Marston, who was a famous psychologist, made up Wonder Woman in 1941. He was interested in the women's suffrage movement and in Margaret Sanger, the birth control and women's rights activist — who was also his mistress's aunt.

Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, lover of all eugenics and abortions, had the same ideology as Wells

http://www.academia.edu/400264/H._G...lic_Policy_to_the_Eugenics_of_Personal_Choice

On the other hand, Wells declared that,
"as Malthus demonstrated for all time, a State whose population continues to increase in obedience to unchecked instinct, can progress only from bad to worse. From the view of human comfort and happiness, the increase of population that occurs at each advance in human security is the greatest evil of life."

Taken together, Weismann’s and Malthus’s ideas presented to Wells the possibility of an explosion of low-grade population in a world of relatively declining food supply.During the course of his career, Wells gave careful consideration to population control, both in terms of public policy and in terms of individual choice. In what follows, I will chart the development of Wells’s thinking on these subjects, and will reveal that, in fact, the two aspects of population control ran parallel and even coincided in his writings on a number of occasions.
Sanger and HG Wells
https://sangerpapers.wordpress.com/tag/wells/
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So, HG Wells and Sanger shared the same ideals. Wells was a proponent for the New World Order. The creator of Wonder Woman, Marston, had a mistress that was the niece of Sanger, and promoted Sangers feminist and eugenic ideals via the creation a feminist propaganda tool in "Wonder Woman".


 
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My avatar is to show people that idols occur in their everyday life and they don't think twice about it - it is Moses, by Michaelangelo, in the Vatican but it clearly is an image of the False Prophet. What's your excuse?
Odd. It looks like a bird riding another bird, to me.
 
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If you understand that everything is faked, then you can appreciate the symbols tptb that they telegraph.

Actually, Snopes has confirmed the crow / eagle image as being quite real. It's also not the first time a crow has been depicted seemingly riding on the back of an eagle, as photos of an incident from 2012 have surfaced online as well.
 
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I consider myself something of an expert in the field of nerdism, so let me just dispense with a quick thing or two here: (very mild spoiler warnings)

Thor is a false Norse (Viking) god that comes through a "wormhole" (ostensibly through something akin to the LHC Cern wormhole propaganda.)

Thor does not travel to earth using wormhole technology. This tech does exist within the marvel universe, and Bifröst appears similar, but it is not the same in any meaningful way.

Nick Fury is the one eyed worthless shepherd of Zechariah 11.
Worthless? Nick Fury, far from being worthless, is one of the most influential and beneficial characters in the earth branch of the Marvel canon. Yes, his plans blow up on themselves in The Winter Soldier somewhat, leaving SHIELD in disarray, but not only is he responsible for saving the world several times, his legacy in the comics is even more extreme.

Capt. America makes people worship an image of the beast (worship the flag of a country)

What about the times he has thrown away the symbology of "Captain America" because he felt that the flag had ceased to represent something positive? And I'm not convinced he's recommending or demanding "worship" in any way either.

Still don't believe it? Here's the Avengers villains in the 1st movie, the Chitauri:
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Revelation 9
7 In appearance the locusts were like horses prepared for battle: on their heads were what looked like crowns of gold; their faces were like human faces, 8 their hair like women's hair, and their teeth like lions' teeth; 9 they had breastplates like breastplates of iron, and the noise of their wings was like the noise of many chariots with horses rushing into battle.

Yep, those look like human faces with women's hair.
 
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How many coincidences does it take to prove that something isn't a coincidence?

......

Hawkeye has the bow of the white horse rider.

.........

Your write up certainly extremely well thought out, and you could be largely correct, but I thought that you might want to research Moshiach ben Ephrayim, Moshiach ben Yosef of Jewish apocalyptic thought as perhaps being the rider on the white horse with a bow.

Before Messiah Yeshua - Jesus returns to the earth and fulfills Zechariah 14, the Jerusalem Third Temple needs to be rebuilt. The Orthodox Jews offer kosher sacrifices for three and a half years but then...... the bad guy.... stops the sacrifices........ and the rest of Ezekiel chapters 40 - 48 are not fulfilled until after Messiah Yeshua - Jesus is here on the earth.

When you read Isaiah chapters 42 - 46 do you think this means an evil world leader?

Isaiah 45:4,5 prove that this cannot be Messiah Yeshua - Jesus though!

Isa 45:1


Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;

.....
Isa 45:4

For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.

Isaiah 45:5

I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:"




This predicted Christian Cyrus type will accomplish a lot.... and I do believe will be guided by the right hand by Messiah...... but this person really does not know G-d all that well at all.

I am of the belief that a man from Uganda did an excellent job of explaining the role of a modern Christian political Cyrus type...... who sets the stage for the second coming.

I quote him in post #1 here:

Do you believe a massive Holy Spirit tsunami is coming?
 
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Your write up certainly extremely well thought out, and you could be largely correct, but I thought that you might want to research Moshiach ben Ephrayim, Moshiach ben Yosef of Jewish apocalyptic thought as perhaps being the rider on the white horse with a bow.

Before Messiah Yeshua - Jesus returns to the earth and fulfills Zechariah 14, the Jerusalem Third Temple needs to be rebuilt. The Orthodox Jews offer kosher sacrifices for three and a half years but then...... the bad guy.... stops the sacrifices........ and the rest of Ezekiel chapters 40 - 48 are not fulfilled until after Messiah Yeshua - Jesus is here on the earth.

When you read Isaiah chapters 42 - 46 do you think this means an evil world leader?

Isaiah 45:4,5 prove that this cannot be Messiah Yeshua - Jesus though!

Isa 45:1


Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;

.....
Isa 45:4

For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.

Isaiah 45:5

I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:"




This predicted Christian Cyrus type will accomplish a lot.... and I do believe will be guided by the right hand by Messiah...... but this person really does not know G-d all that well at all.

I am of the belief that a man from Uganda did an excellent job of explaining the role of a modern Christian political Cyrus type...... who sets the stage for the second coming.

I quote him in post #1 here:

Do you believe a massive Holy Spirit tsunami is coming?

@ the forum in general, after looking over this thread from a few years ago, I have to apologize for my condescending tone. It was and is psychologically taxing to both analyze this material & put it out there to a public that is not receptive and/ or rejecting of this POV. So, sorry again.

@ Dennis Tate, thank you for your thoughtful response. My approach to eschatology is a sort of mishmash between what is presented by the occult (reverse engineered I suppose) and comparing this with the Bible & the news. I think things will work out in the end, but for the most part the end -times are ... engineered, and the kingdom of heaven will be a by product of Satan's machinations.

I am aware of the Messiah ben (David) /Joseph & Ephraim ideas, but as I understand it, Messiah ben David is to resurrect Messiah ben Ephraim - which fits into the antichrist & false prophet paradigm imo.

I am not exactly sure there will be a 3rd temple. Could be, but what I see presented as the covenant that is 'broken in the middle of the 7' from Daniel 9:27's 70 '7's prophecy is in reference to the US Declaration of Independence 'covenant'. 70 x 7 = 490, the 'middle of the 70 '7's is 245 years

July 4, 1776 + 245 years = July 4, 2021. Subtract 1335 days from this to get Nov 8, 2017 (around the time Antifa starts their uprising and the DC National Mall has the naked statue/ sculpture on Nov 11, 2017 Giant naked woman sculpture planned for National Mall the 1290th day is Dec 21, 2017, which could be the 'winter' start date for the great tribulation of Matt 24. Again, maybe, maybe not.

It's possible that Israel will somehow parallel in 'temple' what is happening in the US in some manner.

Cyrus in modern terms seems to be Putin, with his installation of the puppet governor Zerubabel / Trump election debacle. If Putin is the modern Cyrus, it should be noted that he is in full support of the AI / singularity god agenda. When we look at the news, the AI religon 'Way of the Future' came up in the news right around Yom Kippur (by ritual design imo)
 
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