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Discussion in 'General Theology' started by Michael Collum, Mar 13, 2019.

  1. Michael Collum

    Michael Collum Everything began with a voice, use yours Supporter

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    So are the elect like that group of people at the prayer meeting who decide who's saved and who's not? I Mean, how do they know who isn't saved? Did they vote? Sometimes saved people appear on the list and it is confusing.
     
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  2. MariaJLM

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    It's just absurd "theology" that is basically implying God is a sadist who creates certain people just to damn them.
     
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  3. Michael Collum

    Michael Collum Everything began with a voice, use yours Supporter

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    Not really what I was getting at, but I guess I could see your line of logic.
     
  4. Hammster

    Hammster The True Light was coming into the world. Staff Member Assistant Advisor Supporter

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    The elect are those who are saved. It’s in the Bible.
     
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  5. Michael Collum

    Michael Collum Everything began with a voice, use yours Supporter

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    Okay, so who elects them?
     
  6. Hammster

    Hammster The True Light was coming into the world. Staff Member Assistant Advisor Supporter

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    God.
     
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  7. Ttalkkugjil

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    What you're speaking of here Maria seems to be double-predestination. Not everyone who holds to the concept of the elect believes in that.
     
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  8. Michael Collum

    Michael Collum Everything began with a voice, use yours Supporter

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    I agree.

    What confused me is churches acting like their perception of people's speech, actions, theology, and other factors affects people's salvation.
     
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  9. Jonaitis

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    Election, it is a nice word.
     
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  10. Hammster

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    That’s law. The gospel is greater.
     
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  11. MariaJLM

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    I was thinking of the Calvinist doctrine of Predestination. Perhaps I misunderstood.
     
  12. Michael Collum

    Michael Collum Everything began with a voice, use yours Supporter

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    Isn't it though?
     
  13. Hammster

    Hammster The True Light was coming into the world. Staff Member Assistant Advisor Supporter

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    I think you mean your misunderstanding of it because I am certain you’ve never read about it from actual Reformed sources.
     
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  14. Ttalkkugjil

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    The OP didn't specify Calvinist.
     
  15. Michael Collum

    Michael Collum Everything began with a voice, use yours Supporter

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    I don't think the church's perception of reality is law, but people do treat it that way sometimes. I appreciate your straightforward manner of addressing the topic.
     
  16. Jonaitis

    Jonaitis Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, it depends on how you look at it.
     
  17. Michael Collum

    Michael Collum Everything began with a voice, use yours Supporter

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    I read maybe a little too much KJV growing up, the word elect appears in that translation .. I think the Orthodox Study Bible I have uses a NKJV as its NT.
     
  18. redleghunter

    redleghunter Abide Boldy my friend Supporter

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    Only God votes.
     
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  19. HTacianas

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    That's easy for me to reconcile in my own head because I don't believe in the elect. I believe in an elect, but not the elect.

    The difference is sometimes described as corporate election, meaning that there is a group that is elected, and individual election, the idea that certain individuals are elected.

    I believe that God has decided that he will have a holy people but we cannot say who those individuals are.
     
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  20. redleghunter

    redleghunter Abide Boldy my friend Supporter

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    What is Calvinist doctrine of predestination?
     
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