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The Destruction of the John Paul II Institute in Rome and Why it Matters.

Discussion in 'One Bread, One Body - Catholic' started by Michie, Oct 26, 2021.

  1. Michie

    Michie Human rights begin in the womb. Supporter

    United States
    Before I proceed I want to be clear about a few things. I do not think, as some radical traditionalists claim, that Pope Francis is a heretic. Nor do I think he is a false pope. I think Archbishop Vigano and his minions are full of it and I want nothing to do with him or his many promoters in the clickbait domain of self-aggrandizing, internet crackpots. I am a traditionalist in the ressourcement school of thought, which means I support Vatican II and the teachings of all of the post-conciliar popes, especially the teachings of Saint Pope John Paul II, and Pope Benedict XVI. I am not a huge fan of the Novus Ordo and I think the reform of the liturgy was botched and in grave need of a wholesale overview and reform. Nevertheless, I support Mass in the vernacular and do not view the Novus Ordo with the depth of animosity and hostility one sees among some of the more visible promoters of the TLM. I like the TLM, but do not think it should ever again be the ordinary form of the Church’s liturgy. In short, I am no Pope Francis fan boy, but I also do not buy into the restorationist nonsense of his rad trad critics. Pope Francis has his fervent adherents and his fevered opponents. I am neither.

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  2. Lost4words

    Lost4words Jesus I Trust In You Supporter

    United Kingdom
    Pope Francis gets a load of stick. Especially from the Trads. Like, Taylor Marshall on youtube.

    Nothing wrong with Vatican II. But, what would be awesome, would be to make the Novus Ordo in the vernacular version, word for word, action for action, just like the Latin. The same prayers etc etc...but in the vernacular..

    Latin was made mainstream in the late 4th century. They call it the language of the church but, only since the 4th century has that been true.

    Some people are out to get Francis.

    We should all pray for him and the church.

    God bless Pope Francis..