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The death of Christianity in the U.S.

Discussion in 'General Politics' started by tulc, Nov 14, 2017.

  1. tulc

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    https://baptistnews.com/article/death-christianity-u-s/#.WgvQLTRrwdV
    tulc(thought this was an interesting op/ed)
     
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  2. Basil the Great

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    Well, it remains to be seen how the AL Senate election finishes.....
     
  3. Strathos

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    Interesting, but I don't believe Christianity is in such dire straights.
     
  4. pat34lee

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    Another hit piece by a man who let his hatred
    outpace his honor. After all, why bother with
    facts when you can just lynch your opponent
    in print, if not in reality. Does he know if Roy
    Moore is guilty, or does he care? No, and no.
    I doubt he even cares about the case, outside
    using it to try to hurt Trump and conservatives.

    He is the worst type of hypocrite. One who uses
    his religion to bash others. Then blame them for
    not being Christian enough.
     
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  5. GoingByzantine

    GoingByzantine Seeking the Narrow Road Supporter

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    Evangelicalism has been slowly declining long before the rise of Trump, there are articles spanning at least the past decade describing how evangelical churches in many parts of the county are losing their membership. The election is still too recent to substantively determine its impacts on evangelicalism.

    Forgive me, but I think that this author needs to quit judging the motivations and beliefs of other Christians.
     
  6. Blood Bought 1953

    Blood Bought 1953 Ned Flander’s Buddy

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    Please define evangelicism for me....pure definition with no opinion. Thanks
     
  7. Radagast

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    The message of Christianity is not the "betterment of humanity," it's salvation from sin and death. And the gospel message is not primarily "love, peace and fraternity." It is, as 1 Corinthians 15 says, "that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures."
     
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  8. Radagast

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    Just talking numbers, evangelical churches gain about as many people as they lose, as this famous chart indicates:

    [​IMG]
     
  9. Blood Bought 1953

    Blood Bought 1953 Ned Flander’s Buddy

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    Radagast....I tried to be succinct in my post...you beat me.. Amazing how simple the true Gospel is...what you have written says it all
     
  10. Radagast

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    It's not me, it's Paul (and the Holy Spirit).
     
  11. 66/40

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    Not surprising. Jesus warned that the larger portion of the human race won’t make it into His Heavenly Kingdom.....only the very few will.....

    Matthew 7:13-14 (NIV)
    13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and ONLY A FEW FIND IT.

    (Words in CAPS, my emphasis)
     
  12. FireDragon76

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    It seems to me he said alot about justice. The words of Christ are surely part of our message? If they aren't, something is wrong.

    From the Lutheran POV, working towards peace, justice, and the betterment of humanity are fruits of a living faith. God has no need for our good works, but our neighbor certainly does.
     
  13. Radagast

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    Peace and justice are indeed important. But if that's your only message, you're a humanist, not a Christian.
     
  14. FireDragon76

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    I don't think the author implied those are the only things Christians believe in. But they surely are important. In our tradition, this is part of what as known as the Law, which reminds us of our obligations to God and our neighbor.
     
  15. tulc

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    ...you do realize an ad hominem doesn't actually refute what was said, right? :scratch:
    tulc(just thought that should be pointed out) :wave:
     
  16. tulc

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    So when Jesus said:
    because to me? it sounds an awful lot like He wanted us to help the people in need around us. It sounded a lot like what separates the sheep from the goats is who is helping to make the world a better place and who isn't. :wave:
    tulc(just a thought he had) :)
     
  17. redleghunter

    redleghunter Abide Boldly! Supporter

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    Can you quantify this or even define the terms you are using?
     
  18. pat34lee

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    First he would have to say something to refute.
    There were no facts in the article, only his opinion
    about Moore's guilt and that of the evangelicals
    whom the author seems to despise.
     
  19. jgarden

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    Most conservative Christians voted for Donald Trump, someone who has stated publically that he sees no need to repent and seek God's forgiveness from sin.

    1 John 1:10 - If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
     
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  20. pat34lee

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    Fortunately, we didn't elect him pastor of a church.
    Do you check how pious your barber or grocer is?
     
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