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The Day of Christ & The Day of the Lord--A Biblical comparison

Discussion in 'Christianity and World Religion' started by parousia70, Sep 7, 2002.

  1. parousia70

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    In order to understand the nature of the “Day of Christ”,
    one must first understand the nature of the various “Day of
    the Lord” events that preceded it.

    Jehovah's numerous OT comings were always described as
    personal and visible (see: Isa 19:1-2; Isa 31 all; Deut
    33:2, Zech 9:13; etc.). Jesus was to come "in the glory of
    the Father." Christ's coming was to be a Day of Yahweh
    event, which reveals to us the precise nature of that event.

    The desolation of Jerusalem by the Babylonians was a past
    "Day of the Lord." After it happened, the prophet Jeremiah
    tells us:

    Lamentations 1:12
    behold, and see if there be any sorrow like unto my sorrow,
    which is done unto me, wherewith the LORD hath afflicted me
    in the day of his fierce anger.

    Lamentations 2:1
    How hath the Lord covered the daughter of Zion with a cloud
    in his anger, and cast down from heaven unto the earth the
    beauty of Israel, and remembered not his footstool in the
    day of his anger

    Lamentations 2:21
    The young and the old lie on the ground in the streets: my
    virgins and my young men are fallen by the sword; thou hast
    slain them in the day of thine anger; thou hast killed,
    and not pitied

    Lamentations 2:22
    Thou hast called as in a solemn day my terrors round about,
    so that in the day of the LORD'S anger none escaped nor

    **Note also that it was God who did the killing! Did anyone
    SEE Jehovah kill people? Was the prophet lying? Of
    course not. This is how the prophets spoke.**

    Furthermore, Ezekiel had foretold of this same Day of the
    Lord against Jerusalem which took place in the 500s BC,

    Ezekiel 7:19
    They shall cast their silver in the streets, and their gold
    shall be removed: their silver and their gold shall not be
    able to deliver them in the day of the wrath of
    : they shall not satisfy their souls, neither
    fill their bowels: because it is the stumblingblock of their

    And again, Ezekiel says of this same past Day of the Lord...

    Ezekiel 13:2-5
    Son of man, prophesy against the prophets of Israel that
    prophesy, and say thou unto them that prophesy out of their
    own hearts, Hear ye the word of the LORD; Thus saith the
    Lord GOD; Woe unto the foolish prophets, that follow their
    own spirit, and have seen nothing! O Israel, thy prophets
    are like the foxes in the deserts. Ye have not gone up into
    the gaps, neither made up the hedge for the house of Israel

    to stand in the battle in the day of Jehovah.

    The prophet Zephaniah also calls the destruction of
    Jerusalem by the Babylonians "the Day of the Lord."

    Zephaniah 1:1 - 1:7

    The word of Yahweh which came to Zephaniah, the son of
    Cushi, the son of Gedaliah, the son of Amariah, the son of
    Hezekiah, in the days of Josiah, the son of Amon, king of
    . I will utterly sweep away everything off of the
    surface of the earth, says Yahweh. I will sweep away man and
    animal. I will sweep away the birds of the sky, the fish of
    the sea, and the heaps of rubble with the wicked. I will cut
    off man from the surface of the earth, says Yahweh. I
    will stretch out my hand against Judah, and against all the
    inhabitants of Jerusalem. I will cut off the remnant of Baal
    from this place: the name of the idolatrous and pagan
    priests, those who worship the host of the sky on the
    housetops, those who worship and swear by Yahweh and also
    swear by Malcam, those who have turned back from following
    Yahweh, and those who haven't sought Yahweh nor inquired
    after him. Be silent at the presence of the Lord Yahweh, for
    the day of Yahweh is at hand. For Yahweh has prepared a
    sacrifice. He has consecrated his guests.

    Folks, there we have the classic "Day of the Lord" in
    scripture. The prophets speak of Jehovah who comes down and
    does a whole host of "physical" things. Yet did any
    one SEE Yahweh do these things? Was Zephaniah lying?
    This scripture goes on all the way to the end of Zephaniah
    chapter two, and be sure to note that the judgments that
    ensue upon the other surrounding nations are also a past
    Day of Yahweh event (1:14; 2:2-3).

    So, the destruction of Jerusalem in the 500s BC is just one
    example of MANY past day of the LORD events.

    The N.T. teaches that Christ's return was to be a "Day of
    Yahweh" event. This perfectly coincides with AD 67-70, which
    was the greatest Day of the Lord in history.

    Jesus wielded Rome's powers as Jehovah had wielded the
    powers and kings of Babylon and Persia as his own anointed
    servants (Jer 25:9; Isa 44:28-45:13). That's how the Day of
    the Lord judgments work. Rome continued so that the Church
    would over take it as the stone of Daniel 2 that became a
    giant mountain over the whole earth. The pagan Roman Empire
    was destroyed.

    John's own interpretation of Rev 1:7's cloud-coming is found
    in Rev 14:14-20! No one can deny that the Rev 14:14-20
    passage shows a coming in the heavenly realms which brings
    disasters upon earth--it is not an incarnational event.
    Rather, this perfectly depicts the way the Father came in
    O.T. times--in power and great glory. As Jesus promised, he
    was to come "in the glory of the Father." Furthermore, Jesus
    said that when his future kingdom came, no one would be able
    to point to it and say "look here it is, or look there it
    is" (Luke 17:20-21). Since "the kingdom does not come in an
    observable fashion" (Luke 17:20-21), and since Christ was to
    come "in his kingdom" (Mt 16:27-28 ), it follows by logical
    necessity that Christ's coming was not observable. Rather,
    it was a "Day of the Lord event (i.e., in the heavenly
    realms with great disasters and wrath poured out upon
    nations and people).

    The coming of Christ on the clouds that every eye would see
    (Rev 1:7) is actually shown us in Revelation 14:14-20. There
    can be no doubt that the Rev 14:14-20 passage makes clear
    that it is a coming in the heavenlies like unto the many
    O.T. Jehovah comings (cf. Isa 19:1-2; Deut 33:2; 2 Sam 22:7-16;

    Zech 9:13-16; Zeph 1:2-5; Isaiah 31, Neh 9:13-15;
    Hab 3:3-16; etc.). Jehovah came often in O.T. times, yet his
    presence, which always performed the desolations, was potent
    and invisible.  Jesus had promised that he was to come "in
    the glory of the Father.

    The great and terrible Day of the Lord struck at the
    headquarters of opposition. Apostate Jerusalem, a.k.a. the
    great city Mystery Babylon (Rev 14:8/11:8 ), was responsible
    for the persecution of Christ and the apostles and prophets.
    They used the power of Rome to persecute the Church worldwide

    after killing Christ himself. For that, all of the
    blood shed on the earth from Able unto the time of Christ
    was to be avenged upon their generation according to Matt
    23:31-36. All torah-observant, Christ-rejecting Jews in the
    Roman Empire were destroyed in Jerusalem in that great wrath
    of AD 67-70. The judgment came at that time (1 Peter 4:17;
    cf Jn 12:31), for the end of all things was then at hand (1
    Peter 4:7; 2 Tim 4:1)--the end of the age had come.

    Furthermore, the vengeance of God in those last days (Heb
    1:1-2; James 5:3; Acts 2:15-17) had worldwide impact. A
    last-days famine hit the whole empire (Acts 11:28 ), God was
    striking down kings (Acts 12:20-23) as well as the
    emperor-gods (Nero, Galba, etc), Rome burned, and the world
    Temple of Jupiter was destroyed in AD 69. That Day of the
    Lord, the greatest of all those before it, did come upon the
    whole world as prophesied. Christ's Church emerged
    victorious and has become the greatest empire known to

    If one understands what the Day of the Lord was, and if one
    is very familiar with the many historic Day-of-the-Lord
    judgments that transpired in Old Testament times, then one
    quickly understands that the second coming was, by nature,

    to be a Day of the Lord event just like those in O.T. times.
    The preterist view is entirely consistent with the Old
    Testament in understanding AD 67-70 as not only a "Day of
    the Lord," but the greatest of all those that had ever been
    or will ever be.
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