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Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by Servant232, Dec 20, 2017.

  1. Servant232

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    No, But I do claim to believe His Word, And He says it is not going to Happen.

    Why don't you? WE would have Healed, she is not healed...

    would have

    Do you understand?

    She, Her, Babylon USA will NOT REPENT
     
  2. seventysevens

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    LOL , first America is not mentioned at all in scripture
    NO God has said nothing about America , that is what you prefer to say , If you think it is so bad here and God will destroy America , you should find shelter in another country
    Then you have the audacity to say I have not repented. your just nuts off the deep end :rolleyes:
     
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  3. Postvieww

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    End times Bible prophecy in Middle East centered.

    1. All of the countries that God will destroy in the end times that are named in scripture are in the middle east and predominantly Islamic nations.

    2. Mystery Babylon is a “great city” not the USA. Revelation 17:18, Revelation 18:10,16,18,19,21

    3. The USA has done more to spread the gospel than any other country and in my opinion the failures of the last administration which lead to the rise of Isis is a stretch to say the USA is responsible for the “the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth” Revelation 18:24

    4. Casting dust on one’s head is a MiddleEeastern custom and I doubt seriously very many over there would lament the destruction of the USA. Anyway it is a city not a country they will cry over. Revelation 18:19

    3. John was carried away into the “wilderness” more often translated desert. Most of the USA is not wilderness or desert. Nor do we have a great city that fits the description in the desert. Revelation 17:3

    4. Jeremiah 50:9 who are the assembly of nations from the north to come against the USA? Canada?

    5. Isaiah 21:1 the burden of the DESERT

    6. Isaiah 21: the burden upon ARABIA

    7. Jeremiah 50:39 the wild beasts of the DESERT

    8. The Red Sea is one of the greatest shipping lanes


    Seriously I would start looking at Mecca in Saudi Arabia for mystery Babylon where the harlot religion of Islam is centered . This meets all of the biblical descriptions of Mystery Babylon
     
  4. Servant232

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    Ridiculous, Wally shoeBot will cause many to not heed the warnings, he is digging his own grave. Blood will be upon his hands

    There aren't any congregations or synagogues in Saudi Arabia

    And the daughter of babylon has Both, she has within her midst the House of Judah (Jewish People). 41% of those known to be Jewish live in the USA. Slightly more In Israel.

    And the daughter of babylon has within her, the House of Israel (born again Saints) Jeremiah 50:4

    And He is going to pardon some of them Jeremiah 50:20 and save them out of Her

    He is giving Warning to His People to come out of her, when the time comes to Go Jeremiah 51:46

    Saudi Arabia as Marv, let me write another book Rosenthal wrote, Leaves out about 90% of the characteristics of the daughter of babylon... grabs on to the same verses you have, throws in some myrrh
    and walla, another Book

    oy vey oy vey oy vey

    the daughter of babylon was once a golden cup in YHWH's Hand Jeremiah 51:7

    the Gospel is being preached in babylon and will be cut off when It is time to go. Jeremiah 51:33

    not a one of these things are true about any other country besides the USA USA USA
     
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  5. Postvieww

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    Let’s take one at a time. How do you reconcile the fact that Babylon is “a great city” rather than a nation as you have claimed?
     
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    That has already been answered in this thread, babylon is not One part, she is Three part, and within the part, that is the daughter of babylon, are many cities...

    The word translated as Great in Greek in the passage you guoted is Megas

    Great in particular of the area it Encompasses, a large area, sphere of Influence

    The Great City is Three - Parts

    1) The RCC is the Mother of Harlots - Religious

    2) The USA is the Daughter of Babylon - Political

    3) The City of London - Financial

    Revelation 16:19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before ELOHIYM, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of His wrath.

    She is Tri-Part entity before being destroyed...

    Each of these three cities are Independent City-States.

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    The United States of America is the greatest Christian nation on earth, without a doubt. There is many things wrong with America, but it's still the great force for world peace and the greatest evangelizer.
    Judgement is coming for all the world and America is not exempt, but God will protect and then bless His faithful people.

    Those who want to throw all Bible prophecy into the dustbin of history, fail to understand that prophecy is just as much for us today as it was for the ancients. Remember Paul said the what happened in the past is symbolic for what will happen in the future. 1 Corinthians 10:11
     
  10. Servant232

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    By the same measure you used, you will be judged, Repent means to stop breaking God's commandments, and to follow His Instructions...

    Explain How you are not a Hypocrite, first you make a leading and untrue statement to begin your rant, then another statement following about being proven wrong, and they repent... No matter how you slice it, you were saying I need to repent

    and you will continue to be right in your own eyes, but that doesn't matter to me.

    My responsibility is to share the message as He leads me, But it is not within my power to make anyone believe It.


    Are you claiming to be a prophet of GOD?
    There are people who say such things about other people , only to prove them wrong when they repent and serve God ,
    Only God knows

    seventysevens said:
     
  11. Postvieww

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    If you are talking about buildings your statement is correct if you are talking about Christian believers or Jews your statement is false and the cute pic didn't address the issue.
     
  12. seventysevens

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    You profess that America will never repent , how can you possibly know such a thing ?? So I ask you are you a prophet of God ? It is no sin to ask you this as you seem to think that you know for a fact that America will never repent ,

    Then you say I have not repented , that you trying to play yourself to know if another person is saved through grace or repented is something simply you cannot know so I called you on it , so you know you cannot prove what you accuse - then you call me hypocrite because I ask you these things ! America is not identified at all in any scripture
    Only God knows what will happen with America ,It is entirely possible that America's leaders will turn back to God , You do not know the future

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    4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
    12 Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused the dayspring to know his place;
    13 That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?
    16 Hast thou entered into the springs of the sea? or hast thou walked in the search of the depth?

    17 Have the gates of death been opened unto thee? or hast thou seen the doors of the shadow of death?

    18 Hast thou perceived the breadth of the earth? declare if thou knowest it all.
    19 Where is the way where light dwelleth? and as for darkness, where is the place thereof,

    20 That thou shouldest take it to the bound thereof, and that thou shouldest know the paths to the house thereof?

    21 Knowest thou it, because thou wast then born? or because the number of thy days is great?

    22 Hast thou entered into the treasures of the snow? or hast thou seen the treasures of the hail,

    23 Which I have reserved against the time of trouble, against the day of battle and war?

    24 By what way is the light parted, which scattereth the east wind upon the earth?

    25 Who hath divided a watercourse for the overflowing of waters, or a way for the lightning of thunder;

    26 To cause it to rain on the earth, where no man is; on the wilderness, wherein there is no man;

    27 To satisfy the desolate and waste ground; and to cause the bud of the tender herb to spring forth?

    28 Hath the rain a father? or who hath begotten the drops of dew?

    29 Out of whose womb came the ice? and the hoary frost of heaven, who hath gendered it?

    30 The waters are hid as with a stone, and the face of the deep is frozen.

    31 Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?

    32 Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons?

    33 Knowest thou the ordinances of heaven? canst thou set the dominion thereof in the earth?

    34 Canst thou lift up thy voice to the clouds, that abundance of waters may cover thee?

    35 Canst thou send lightnings, that they may go and say unto thee, Here we are?

    36 Who hath put wisdom in the inward parts? or who hath given understanding to the heart?

    37 Who can number the clouds in wisdom? or who can stay the bottles of heaven,

    38 When the dust groweth into hardness, and the clods cleave fast together?

    39 Wilt thou hunt the prey for the lion? or fill the appetite of the young lions,

    40 When they couch in their dens, and abide in the covert to lie in wait?

    41 Who provideth for the raven his food? when his young ones cry unto God, they wander for lack of meat.

    Only God Knows
     
  13. Postvieww

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    Revelation 16:18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.



    19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

    Must really be a bad earthquake to divide the great city into the Vatican, London and DC.

    Sorry your theory is not supported by scripture in the least.
     
  14. Servant232

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    No, my statement is correct either way, the fact that congregations and synagogues are not allowed to be built in Saudi Arabia shows that there is not a notable New Covenant congregation or Jewish population as is described living in the daughter of babylon, that will be fleeing, escaping for their lives, to survive, setting their faces towards Zion, Afar Off

    NINE Times in Jeremiah 50 - 51 and Revelation, YHWH warns His people to come out of The Land of the daughter of Babylon.

    Jews and Christians who are in Saudi Arabia NEED to be warned NINE Times to flee when the Time to flee comes.

    YHWH Spent 5 Chapters and then some warning them?

    Imagine this gif

    Me looking down chin almost to my chest, eyes closed, shaking my head slightly.

    Thinking what should I expect coming from a people who have been programmed their whole lives by lies from shepherds that have only fed themselves and not His flock.

    and since the majority opinion of the people living in the daughter of babylon according to the Word would be, they would think they are untouchable (Our Military can wipe out anyone), will not see widowhood on our Land, then destruction comes, and a remnant of His people escape... most of His people in the usa will die for a lack of knowledge, they rejected the knowledge that Is only found in the Torah Hosea 4:6

    Saved, but not accounted worthy to escape the things coming upon America

    The daughter of babylon will be destroyed by an ambush from a company of nations, her destruction is swift, one hour...

    The USA was the First Nation to pressure Israel to create an Independent Palestinian state within Its borders, Made public in the roadmap to peace speech given by george w bush in 2002, which led to the quartet of nations, the world basically fulfilling more prophecy that the whole world would seek to divide His Land... All started by the USA USA USA

    Here is the punishment of the nations which came against Jerusalem to Divide His Land

    Zechariah 14:12
    And this shall be the plague wherewith YHWH will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

    They will dissolve while they are still standing... that is what a Nuclear Weapon does to the human body.

    Isaiah 47:8 Isaiah 47:9

    The USA pressured Israel to give up the Gaza, a plan of the USA, and the very day that Jews were no longer able to return to their homes in the Gaza if they had already left, Katrina Hit New Orleans.

    Think that, coast to coast when the usa is Judged for LEADING the whole world into Dividing His Land.

    American Doublespeak - The USA is not Israel's friend. Not In God's eyes, so what the majority currently believes to be the case, amounts to nothing but smoke and mirrors. Strong delusion.
     
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  15. TribulationSigns

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    Not going to happen. A massive earthquake that literally divides the cities into three locations was not what God talked about here. We need to get the identity of the great city right and biblical first.
     
  16. Postvieww

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    It was Serant232’s theory that says the “great city“ is divided into the Vatican, London and DC.


    I went back and reread your first post, is seems you take more of a spiritualizing approach to Revelation. I will admit I would go with your theory before Servant232”s.


    I look at Revelation more literally except where it is impossible. For example Revelation 16:18 I believe is a literal earthquake but the dragon of Revelation 12:7 is not a literal dragon of the fire breathing type, it is symbolism .


    I agree with you about letting scripture interpret scripture but even with that goal, good men can come to different conclusions.


    I believe there are too many details that can be taken literally to make Babylon the apostate church. That is just my opinion but I believe I do have basis for it from scripture as I am sure you do as well.

    God Bless
     
  17. Servant232

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    When the Roman Empire collapsed, out of its head, the western part of the empire, arose 10 nations Daniel 7:20

    And Another Little horn/Nation arose after them, and plucked up 3 of those 10 nations that arose by the roots. Daniel 7:8

    The First Ten Nations to Arise from the Collapse
    Of the fourth beast, The Roman Empire.

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    The USA uprooted:

    1) England - The Revolutionary War

    2) France - The Louisiana Purchase

    3) Spain - The Spanish American War
    Daniel 7:23
    Thus He said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

    Daniel 7:24
    And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
     
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  18. Heart2Soul

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    I agree with you, besides the United States is the only country to stand with Israel and based on that fact it is a blessed nation. False witness, false testimony, false teaching, and false prophesying are exactly what God warns us about in the end times....if possible even the highest elect shall be deceived.
     
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    I encourage you all to read William Stringfellow, 1973. An Ethic for Christians and other Aliens in a Strange Land. Word Books.
    Written when Nixon was president, it is still very current. On it's back cover the editor writes "Identifying America as a fallen nation with the parable of Babylonn in the Book of Revelation - not with Jerusalem the holy nation, as Americans are naïvely and vainly wont to do, Dr. Stringfellow issues as trenchant an indictment of our society as has been made since Philip Wylie's Generation of Vipers."

    This book opened my eyes to what the Bible means when it speaks of "principalities and powers of this world." And to the fact that even our institutions and organisations (ALL of them) are as "fallen" as we are, held in bondage by the power of death.
     
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